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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:35 pm
by fferyllt
Vote Count 1.10
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The area where I live is a cluster of Mediterranian micro climates. Less than 20 miles from my house, people are able to grow fuscia bushes taller than I am. Alas, the summers are too hot, dry and windy in my own micro climate. But, I can't help myself. Every year or two I try again in a different, more sheltered spot. Some day, I will find or make just the right combination of windbreak and partial shade somewhere in my yard, and a fuschia or two will finally thrive for me.


King Cankles
(3): Ciara24, Fykus, WhaleBarnicle
Fykus
(2): PersephoneSidekick, King Cankles

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(4): mhsmith0, RadiantCowbells, WhyMafia, PestoSwami

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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:47 pm
by mhsmith0
Anyway, if no one has anything notable to say by around this time tomorrow, I'll probably start the BP/no BP claim thing (we're way past the point where it can get in the way of the first few days worth of content), and see if anything interesting happens from that.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:50 pm
by RadiantCowbells
My experiences with it recently have suggested that we shouldn't do so. It's good for winrates but it does bad things.

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by mhsmith0
I think there's good and bad, but IMO the biggest issue is it fucks with early game (also outed BP is apparently a boring role to play for newbies, which is also bad).

Then again, maybe I can save claim stuff until day 2 and see if someone can reprise the Grey role from 1774 :D

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:08 pm
by Fykus
In post 213, mhsmith0 wrote:Took a quick re-skim, some notes:
In post 39, Fykus wrote:I always thought that scum hated RVS because its hard for them to "act" RVS'y or something along those lines.
You just get more suss by the minute WM. I've got my eyes on you
.
Scum-reading a theory disagreement, subsequently lets it die
The bolded and underlined part was more of a rvs joke with a tinge of seriousness, but mostly just joking. Thats why I never bothered to bring it back up again. WM seems like a player who I wouldn't be able to confirm the alignment of until a later day.

As for finding something interesting I'll take a look and get back to you on that.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:04 am
by mhsmith0
At this point I'd like you in particular to talk about why this game has been a low interest thing for you (I vaguely recall that you liked being VT? Is that wrong?), and if you're town actually start doing things, since right now you're the closest thing I have to a decent SR.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:49 am
by WhaleBarnicle
Who doesn't like a good prod dodge?

I'm reading, but also working. One pays, so I'll update hopefully later tonight after I get off.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:41 am
by fferyllt
Ciara24 has been prodded.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:17 pm
by WhyMafia
In post 229, Fykus wrote:
In post 213, mhsmith0 wrote:Took a quick re-skim, some notes:
In post 39, Fykus wrote:I always thought that scum hated RVS because its hard for them to "act" RVS'y or something along those lines.
You just get more suss by the minute WM. I've got my eyes on you
.
Scum-reading a theory disagreement, subsequently lets it die
The bolded and underlined part was more of a rvs joke with a tinge of seriousness, but mostly just joking. Thats why I never bothered to bring it back up again. WM seems like a player who I wouldn't be able to confirm the alignment of until a later day.

As for finding something interesting I'll take a look and get back to you on that.
You call me out as scum by mid d1 every game so far -_-
And you've only been right once

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm
by PersephoneSidekick
In post 198, PersephoneSidekick wrote:Prod dodge. I've been really busy with doctor's appointments and really tired. (I'm going to be fine, but that's all I'm willing to share.) I may or may not be able to post later tonight either. I will if I can. I will definitely post sometime tomorrow.
I said I'd post to day but every time I try to catch up I just can't think straight enough to have any reading comprehension. :(

Can I V/LA till "when I feel better?" I think it will be any day now. I'm really excited about how things are starting to move faster and I want to participate. Sorry everybody.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:47 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Wait a second I just reread the game.

VOTE: Whymafia

PRETTY sure this is scum yo

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:52 pm
by mhsmith0
Interesting. What in particular makes you think he's scum?

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:53 pm
by WhyMafia
In post 235, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait a second I just reread the game.

VOTE: Whymafia

PRETTY sure this is scum yo
Ok

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
hi im rc

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:12 pm
by mhsmith0
hi rc! :P

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 pm
by Fykus
In post 233, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 229, Fykus wrote:
In post 213, mhsmith0 wrote:Took a quick re-skim, some notes:
In post 39, Fykus wrote:I always thought that scum hated RVS because its hard for them to "act" RVS'y or something along those lines.
You just get more suss by the minute WM. I've got my eyes on you
.
Scum-reading a theory disagreement, subsequently lets it die
The bolded and underlined part was more of a rvs joke with a tinge of seriousness, but mostly just joking. Thats why I never bothered to bring it back up again. WM seems like a player who I wouldn't be able to confirm the alignment of until a later day.

As for finding something interesting I'll take a look and get back to you on that.
You call me out as scum by mid d1 every game so far -_-
And you've only been right once
:eek: :o

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:15 am
by Ciara24
Aaaack sorry, work has been absolutely hectic for the last few days and I'm working extra hours Saturday through Monday, I'll be back properly Tuesday (hopefully!!) I'll try to post up some thoughts later this evening.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:42 am
by fferyllt
PestoSwami has been prodded.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:46 am
by mhsmith0
In post 39, Fykus wrote:I always thought that scum hated RVS because its hard for them to "act" RVS'y or something along those lines. You just get more suss by the minute WM. I've got my eyes on you.
So Fykus, this was your first sort of substantive post in this game. That post happened soon after
In post 1657, ThinkBig wrote:
Night 1 Kill
Vedith was killed night 1!

He was a
Town Vigilante
.


Carcalilly was killed night 1!

He was a
Mafia Odd-night Roleblocker
.
the second very early scum flip in a 10/3 game (NOTE FOR NEWBIES: you are NOT allowed to talk about ongoing games, but you ARE allowed to talk about completed games). Given that you were already putting some mental effort into trying to salvage a very difficult scum game, why weren't you more excited about the fact that you were NOT scum in this game instead? "Scum fatigue" seems like an obvious potential explanation for your disinterest in this game; what would be the alternative explanation that you wish to offer us?

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:48 am
by fferyllt
King Cankles has been prodded.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:54 am
by mhsmith0
Also: @RC wrt WhyMafia:
In post 236, mhsmith0 wrote:Interesting. What in particular makes you think he's scum?

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:13 am
by King Cankles
I'm here I'm here. Just not much to say.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:17 am
by mhsmith0
Try saying things anyway. People have been doing stuff; try to read into what they're saying and doing and whether you think it comes from genuine desire to find scum or if they're faking it. Scumhunting is a collective process and you can't improve (regardless of your alignment here) if you don't try. You don't need reads on everyone, but you should have at least a somewhat decent read ona few people. Or, if you prefer, think of questions you can ask that will help you to arrive at a better read.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:19 am
by mhsmith0
One example of something to consider and share thoughts on:

Is this in fact an unproductive game state? If so, are there people who are especially comfortable with that fact? Who is trying to break us out of that? Are those efforts genuine or does it seem like they're faking it?

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:27 am
by mhsmith0
By the way I about to go onaight do will be u available for a while