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TBH, I wouldn't be upset if you did. It doesn't really stifle conversation, and Ari has had like a week and a half to give reads at this point.

I genuinely believe he is struggling to give a shit about this game. I also believe that that is in fact alignment indicative at this point.

Groovy, let's get some progress in this game.

VOTE: Ari

I'll PM Gurgi so he knows something actually happened.

Cool.
I am town.

Reck and insanity are town.
I wish you all good luck!

My attack on jingle was somewhat unjustified and reactionary, so i am torn there.

Gut on everyone else?

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Aristophanes is dead. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Day two begins. Still 5 to lynch.

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Apologies for any mistakes, I am drinking with friends.

Dang

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

I think TheGoldenParadox's response to Ari's wagon reeks the most. The way he unvoted despite thinking that there is a 'very reasonable chance he's scum' feels like someone who wanted to get off a town off mislynch wagon, while leaving his options open. The fact that he doesn't give any reasons for why Hopkirk was apparently scummier excerpt for 'meta' is also not good.

I still dislike CultofAthena's play, but I am mostly happy with Hopkirk's play for now.

I'm looking forward to BlackVoid posting and also want to re-read Korts when I have time.

VOTE: RayFrost

Fight me please.

Hmmm. I will reevaluate things maybe tonight.

In post 233, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: RayFrost

Fight me please.

Ray was replaced by me...

In post 235, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 233, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: RayFrost

Fight me please.

Ray was replaced by me...

Is that really all you have to say?

I need to reread TGP/Ray's slot and the game as a whole at some point.

@Reckoner: What do you think about my thoughts on you from yesterday?

Still waiting on TGP to go over which games he's talking about. If he just meant the one we were in together, that's finished now.

Then the VC wasn't updated.

Can you quote your thoughts then

In post 231, Lord Gurgi wrote:Day One continues. Five to lynch.

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Aristophanes is dead. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Fixed, for ya'lls convenience. I have more reads than confidence in reads at this point, which means I need to step back and reevaluate. I'm also heading to an RPG group that frowns on spending the entire night on ms, so this is probably my last post till tomorrow.

In post 237, Hopkirk wrote:I need to reread TGP/Ray's slot and the game as a whole at some point.

@Reckoner: What do you think about my thoughts on you from yesterday?

Still waiting on TGP to go over which games he's talking about. If he just meant the one we were in together, that's finished now.

Gest Idea
Dragon Hunters
Marked for Death #1

Oh, I see it now

CoA wasn't new enough to use it as an excuse. They had played several games already, so I don't think it's that telling and I think it undermines your argument.
My read is that CoA did a bunch of empty questioning, got pressure/flak for it, then replaced out under pressure.

In post 240, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 237, Hopkirk wrote:I need to reread TGP/Ray's slot and the game as a whole at some point.

@Reckoner: What do you think about my thoughts on you from yesterday?

Still waiting on TGP to go over which games he's talking about. If he just meant the one we were in together, that's finished now.

Gest Idea
Dragon Hunters
Marked for Death #1

Why do these games make you think Hopkirk is scum here? Why did these games make you switch your vote to Hopkirk, when Aristophanes already had a large wagon and you believed Ari had a very reasonable chance of being scum?

In post 241, xRECKONERx wrote:CoA wasn't new enough to use it as an excuse. They had played several games already, so I don't think it's that telling and I think it undermines your argument.
My read is that CoA did a bunch of empty questioning, got pressure/flak for it, then replaced out under pressure.

Adding to this, CultofAthena also played in the recently finished other geriatric game (which makes her more experienced with this ruleset than the rest of us!)

Just wondering - what is your current read of Jingle? Are you still scumreading him from the start of Day 1?

Welcome BlackVoid! Keen to play with you again and definitely interested to hear a catch-up.

In post 213, insanity018 wrote: @Keychain, thanks for your response. I still disagree with you that those things make Ari more likely to be town. I notice that you're still voting CultofAthena/Hopkirk. Do you have any thoughts on Hopkirk's play since replacing into the slot?

I'm not anymore since the lynch, but the question is worth answering regardless.

I don't remember how much I said about this, but I can give my thoughts on his ISO at this point in time. He was less scummy than CoA for sure but nothing about his play made me inclined to take my vote off him.

I found the way he came into the thread fighting scumreads on Athena to be super reactionary - like reading through there is some scumhunting which I would expect from town replacing in, but mostly his posts revolve around the reads on his predecessor.

This piece of analysis:

In post 156, Hopkirk wrote:I didn’t get the townread on insanity. I didn’t like her by this time due to the unjustified looking push on CoA. If Insanity was his top townread here then I don’t follow why he’s going after Jingle instead of joining her on CoA. Overall, I got the impression here he was trying to buddy a bit with insanity who had Reckless as town and Jingle as suspicious. Also, this would make Insanity more likely town if Reckless flipped scum since it seems less likely to occur between partners.

feels too complex to be real, if that makes sense. Like reading through it I have difficulty seeing how all these little threads add up to a coherent read.

In post 181, Hopkirk wrote:@Insanity: I don’t ‘scumread’ you. That’s too hard a term. I’m suspicious and working on sorting you. I’m most suspicious of Ari/Reckless right now. You seem like a less likely partner for either.

Backing off when confronted seems like he's avoiding conflict with you, and the later picking over whether you'd noticed his formatting was broken feels like kind of a weak attempt to find something to poke at which was easily resolved.

I would like to reread I think, before I vote again.

@insanity: I would say not much has changed, tbh.

Sorry, I meant to get to this today but the whole no deadline thing just makes it seem less urgent. I'll give it time tomorrow. Want to go over the Reckoner thing.

In post 240, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 237, Hopkirk wrote:I need to reread TGP/Ray's slot and the game as a whole at some point.

@Reckoner: What do you think about my thoughts on you from yesterday?

Still waiting on TGP to go over which games he's talking about. If he just meant the one we were in together, that's finished now.

Gest Idea
Dragon Hunters
Marked for Death #1

Why did you read me specifically and have you read anyone else? Like I don't really get your mindset in regard to deciding to do the metaread.
Plus what Insanity asked.

Reread Rayfrost and I still like him. TGP has a lot of odd phrasing and perspectives, but I can see that being newb-town. This is partially meta based since I just finished a game where the only scum was his top townread. Want to get more from him on what I’ve asked though since I don’t understand the point he’s trying to make with the meta stuff- or rather why he’s trying to make a point there.

In post 241, xRECKONERx wrote:Oh, I see it now

CoA wasn't new enough to use it as an excuse. They had played several games already, so I don't think it's that telling and I think it undermines your argument.
My read is that CoA did a bunch of empty questioning, got pressure/flak for it, then replaced out under pressure.

Only having played several games is still new. Being new makes her easy to push since she’s less likely to defend herself well.

@Keychain: The first point there isn’t complex. I’m saying Reck looks fake since he says he has a strong townread on Insanity but doesn’t act like he does. If he hard townreads her for her stuff on CoA he should be voting CoA with her at that point.
Also, I townread Insanity based on those interactions. It sounds like you’re trying to paint it like I’m nitpicking her then scumreading her for it.

I need to reread Keychain, especially given his position relative to the Ari wagon.

I don't know how I should "act like I have a strong townread on insanity".

'If he hard townreads her for her stuff on CoA he should be voting CoA with her at that point.'

Prod dodge until I finish my work for the day. Then you guys get an hour or two. If I haven't come to any new revelations, I'm probably jumping onto the Bronzish Parasox.