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I guess I kind of just skimmed everything to get caught up

In post 214, pinturicchio wrote:@Dino I know you don't like gutreads or at least is the worst type of reads from your perspective along with cold meta, but I played a long ass game being her scumpartner and until I see another game where she's scum, I will say I have an ability to read her towngames with a probability of 100%

that would be considered hot meta lol

i only personally dislike gutreads because i'm bad at it

gutreads get progressively better the more players in a game know each other well

so yeah i'll trust you

Hmm

In post 172, pinturicchio wrote:Her case on jjh is on point, making such a strong scumread this early is something I don't expect coming from scum

By “on point,” do you mean accurate (I.e. jjh is scummy) or the case is towny but not necesssarily accurate? Or both

How do you read ofrhz? (@BlackStar)

In post 229, ruru wrote:How do you read ofrhz? (@BlackStar)

I don't like the fact that he popped up as soon as we mentioned him or the fact that he hasn't tried to contribute anything so far, so I guess that makes him a scum lean. But if he's scum then it would make it much less likely that Zoro is scum. So I'm interested to see more of his posts

In post 215, Zoronos wrote: I felt the question from ofrhz was heavily loaded. 'Why zoronos, defend your read?!?!', in essence. When he's let a variety of other naked votes pass by, he chooses that one to seek clarification. That he chooses to do so suggests, to me, there's meaning behind the specific action he's taking. From the seat of the person being asked about, both his question and JJH's defense feel deserving of similar attention. Ergo, I think people should be considering both if they're considering one. And if Pintu likes your case on JJH, I'd expect him to also be thinking about an ofrhz case. That he isn't does not give me warm fuzzy feelings.

It wasn’t intended to be a loaded question.

I assumed the other naked votes were RVS / votes that people didn’t want to explain at the time. BlackStar’s vote was on you, who had contributed a lot, so it was ambiguous whether the vote was based on something you had written or a random vote.

Even so, I’m not sure why you’d expect pintu to think my question was a loaded one when NSG did not and when NSG just said she didn’t.

In post 216, ruru wrote:

VOTE: ofrhz

Aggressive

Ruru is probably town guys

BlackStar (3): jjh927, the worst, ruru,
northsidegal (2): Mathdino, ofrhz,
Zoronos (2): davesaz, BlackStar,
Mathdino (1): pinturicchio,
jjh927 (1): northsidegal,
HeWhoSwims (1): HitAlt,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, Something_Smart, Zoronos,

I think..

In post 230, BlackStar wrote:I don't like the fact that he popped up as soon as we mentioned him or the fact that he hasn't tried to contribute anything so far, so I guess that makes him a scum lean. But if he's scum then it would make it much less likely that Zoro is scum. So I'm interested to see more of his posts

Ummmmm

I might be doing the thing where I flip out at someone for just not reading the thread (hi a50 xdddddd)

and yes, I didn't like that either

VOTE: ofrhz

heavily agree ofrhz is not scum with zoronos but zoronos is also already town so that doesn't really help much

but i'll throw my hat in

VOTE: ofrhz

In post 228, ofrhz wrote:

In post 172, pinturicchio wrote:Her case on jjh is on point, making such a strong scumread this early is something I don't expect coming from scum

By “on point,” do you mean accurate (I.e. jjh is scummy) or the case is towny but not necesssarily accurate? Or both

Both. NSG is town calling scummy things that I too believe were scummy. Too early to know if scummy = scum.

In post 4, davesaz wrote:VOTE: Zoronos
Convenient, you're the person before me in the list and in the thread.

By the way, does anybody knows this guy?

yes, he has more age / experience / education than all of the rest of us combined

Yeah yeah I’m reading

Why is zoronos town? @math

i can definitely join this

VOTE: ofrhz

In post 238, Mathdino wrote:yes, he has more age / experience / education than all of the rest of us combined

Wow he must be pretty old if he's older than a dinosaur

for anyone wondering, the meme originated from this post

the ultimate joke is that this interpretation was the opposite of correct

i pity people unaware of the team mafia inside jokes

Lol that makes sense, I think I got a little late to this site to know what Team Mafia was, I still don't know much about that.

So for real, tell me about dave? Is he lurking, active lurking, is this normal/abnormal coming from him, should we worry or is too early to know?

I think I've read him in another game but can't recall, but have a feeling that he's a strong player and a replacement this early is no fun. I mean, replacements are not fun in general, but dave has no content whatsoever so it would be like starting the game 2 days later

I know I've played multiple games with him but I can't remember his meta because I haven't played in so long.

he is a very amusing player

this seems relatively normal

always check posting history onsite before you call someone on lurking imo

he will definitely not replace out

i think it's probably just NAI.

it's only been ~24 hours since his post - really no reason to be thinking about a replacement.

In post 246, Mathdino wrote:he is a very amusing player

this seems relatively normal

always check posting history onsite before you call someone on lurking imo

he will definitely not replace out

Yeah that's why I'm asking and not calling him out

In post 223, BlackStar wrote:He said that he felt ofrhz's question was loaded and that he felt like his posts deserved attention. It seemed to me that he was at least a little suspicious of ofrhz and if he is then I don't know why he isn't voting for anyone. And 197 is an ATE designed to make us sympathize with him and not want to vote for him. That's NAI to me because I do that all the time as both town and scum

You're misunderstanding my position. It's more nuanced than that.
In my view, Pintu is voting JJH for doing a certain behavior (buddying). In my opinion, Ofrhz's question could be interpreted as another instance of that behavior. If Pintu thinks that behavior is scummy in JJH, it follows that he would be liable to think it's also scummy in Ofrhz (or even in SS who also called me towny in response to someone calling me scummy), or at least be worth of investigation. Instead he accepts the surface explanation when prompted.

My personal stance is that while ofrhz's question is meaningful, it is NAI. But I didn't start from the supposition that it was AI, and Pintu appears to have done so. My suspicion value on ofrhz is offsetting-probabilities, could be scum buddying or just town having a town read. NAI behavior. But then I thought the same thing about JJH's position, and that's where Pintu and I disagreed.

(I agree that you should all disregard 197. That's why I put it in a spoiler. It's an explanation of why I'm trying harder than prior. Nothing more.)