[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Malakitty]

Leodanny (L-4)

: Persivul, Thor665, Auro

Lamees (L-5)

: rb, Malakitty

rb (L-5)

: Lamees, Leodanny

DVa (L-5)

: Egix96, NotNova

Auro (L-6)

: Dunnstral

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat, Something_Smart

I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

[Thor665]

When you said "I've already done sorting" I assumed you meant you sorted *after* the previous posts, and that meant your current sorts had information beyond the inferred scumlean on Dunnstral.

You read me incorrectly - but even if you did read me correctly why are you asking for more reads when I'd offered a second already and had apparently decided not to share others if I had them?

In the abscence of a good case, I'd be down to lynch a scummy player even if it's just playstyle -- but scumleaning them early just for that seems like it'd only lead to conf bias.

List me all the games ever with a good case on Day 1.
I expect the number to be x<1
I'll wait.

I think we've beaten this point quite into the ground; I don't think LAMIST is a useful tell and I've stated my reasons why. Let's move on.

What would you like to move on to?

I find concern with you attacking someone else's scumhunting while not committing your own and desire to still explore that point, but I'm open to other topics of conversation if you have them.

[YyottaCat]

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

[Malakitty]

I don’t like that ^post either

[rb]

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

wow

[rb]

imo

[Dunnstral]

Oh no I'm late

Reveal the undead by asking more things! Auro, who do you think is most likely to be scum?

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

Nice iso

VOTE: YyottaCat

[Lamees]

I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

Hammering a town player is not a scum slip lol.

[Lamees]

Anyway, this is def not town malakitty. Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least). Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.

I also don't see why yyottacat got so much backlash? Weren't you guys going for a lamees lynch? What if yyotta just bought malakitty's case and joined.

[Auro]

You read me incorrectly - but even if you did read me correctly why are you asking for more reads when I'd offered a second already and had apparently decided not to share others if I had them?

Because if my read was correct, that information *could* have also been a revision on your prior read on Dunnstral, the only scumread that would still be persistent was Leo.
Your reads help us sort you, as you said -- so if something changed/got added from the previous post, asking you to post them would be useful.

Also, what would be my scum motivation in "looking like I'm efforting", considering I've actually efforted in my scum games, especially when I'm questioning why someone townleaned me for doing that?

[Auro]

List me all the games ever with a good case on Day 1.
I expect the number to be x<1
I'll wait.

I had a great case on scum!Volxen in my just-completed Newbie 1900 he was tunneled on me, I kept engaging him on that, showed how his vote shifts were inconsistent and dishonest. I'm actually curious -- I can link you to the posts, tell me why my case (even if correct) was not a "good" one?

[Auro]

I'm not down for a Lamees lynch. She's very easy mislynch bait, often looks scummy early in the game, and I think a deeper study of her scumgame can reveal potential scumtells of hers.

[Auro]

And she's actually posting content, unlike Leodanny/Yvottacat.

[rb]

Anyway, this is def not town malakitty. Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least). Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.

I also don't see why yyottacat got so much backlash? Weren't you guys going for a lamees lynch? What if yyotta just bought malakitty's case and joined.

"this is def not town malakitty"
"i'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game"

pick one

also the reason you can't see what's wrong with yyotta's post is because you're not town

[rb]

And she's actually posting content, unlike Leodanny/Yvottacat.

wow where is this mystical lamees content imo..

[Lamees]

Let's talk about this post

wow back to not taking mafia seriously imo

too hard tbh

You then went back to voting me over DVA. So you even admit your vote on me is not serious lol.

When town is ready to lynch scum (that is rb) let me know.

[rb]

wow so true imo

[Egix96]

I don’t really change votes, so I would wait for something more.
In this case though, you are right, I should probably vote someone else.
VOTE: rb

This is not thrilling to me.

Not to me either.

[Egix96]

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

This seems a bit too naive to me. You don't seem to be weighing up the possibility of Lamees being a townie who's being pushed on by scum.
Also, considering that there's a temporary votecount right at the top of the previous page, it shouldn't be too difficult to go from there and count how many people voted Lamees after that.

[Egix96]

I'm not down for a Lamees lynch. She's very easy mislynch bait, often looks scummy early in the game, and I think a deeper study of her scumgame can reveal potential scumtells of hers.

Yeah, I'm not feeling like Lamees is the right choice either. I'm really not sure what to make of rb though, I'd rather vote elsewhere.

[rb]

wow you're either with me or against me imo

[rb]

wow sorry that was just a copy paste from my anakin skywaker impressions imo

i would be more okay with people being on the fence if they had a direction that wasn't just being on the fence

[Egix96]

Leo needs more votes I think. Persi, Thor, and Auro all seem like town to me so far, so I don't think scum are pushing a lynch there. Seems like a good choice.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Leodanny

[Egix96]

wow you're either with me or against me imo

Yeah that's the thing, it's hard to tell if an interaction is TvS or TvT, especially on D1.

[Something_Smart]

Lamees I more feel like the posts don’t really have any substance behind it. I didn’t like the first post I quoted more because I felt like it’s I’m here looking like I’m contributing but then not doing anything about it.

Why are you townreading rb then? I feel like his posts don't have much substance either...