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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:09 am
by Jamelia
In post 224, faüstiv wrote:Jamellia why are you ok with an Airan lynch if I’m on the bandwagon? I’m one of your scumreads and I am advocating this lynch. Do you think me and Airan are a team?
I am ok with it if I believe that the response Airan gives is inadequate and scummy. I already said I don’t agree with the idea of Aidan being scum, but people expose themselves when the pressure is on, especially new players (from what I saw in my last game).

If that’s the case, then I may be wrong about you. For now, you’re still my main scumread which is why my
vote hasn’t changed off of you.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:13 am
by Draynth
first day back at university today will catch up in the morning

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:37 am
by UrVeggieM8
Hey all, busy today and tomorrow. Will catch up when I can.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:58 pm
by Spangled
If Airan is scum, spam is unlikely to be the partner, I reckon. Unless the amount of interaction is over-interaction, but I somehow doubt it.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:38 pm
by faüstiv
@jamellia

I think your concerns regarding me are genuine.

Spangled seems like paranoid town.

Rereading Drayanth I’m less certain he’s town now. Not calling him scum, just going to move him to null/town.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:47 pm
by Spangled
In post 219, faüstiv wrote:I’ve had opportunities to jump on other bandwagons. I chose not to. I think this guy is scum. I’ll go into detail a bit later but basically he’s pussyfooting and trying not to upset anyone. He doesn’t want to be suspected and this is apparent in his play.
Could you ‘go into detail’ now, perhaps?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:53 pm
by faüstiv
I’m on phone. I’ll do it later.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:31 pm
by Errantparabola
pretty soon you'll find some nice young
satanist with braces and one
capital o, significant other


- Beach Life-in-Death,
Twin Fantasy


votecount 1.9


Airan303
(2): Spangled, NotMySpamAccount
NotMySpamAccount
(2): Geyde, Draynth
faüstiv
(1): Jamelia
Geyde
(1): faüstiv
Spangled
(1): Egix96

Not Voting
(2): Airan303, UrVeggieM8

Prodding Airan303 & Geyde.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-09-27 09:56:00)

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:29 pm
by Draynth
We have ~3 and a half days left by the way, should start trying to consolidate wagons/votes onto optimal lynches if possible.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:32 pm
by Draynth
I have some thoughts to share but it'll have to wait a few hours as I'm currently mobile posting, and a lot of the quotes on the last page are very long

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:43 pm
by Spangled
In post 234, Draynth wrote:I have some thoughts to share but it'll have to wait a few hours as I'm currently mobile posting, and a lot of the quotes on the last page are very long
That they are; I do apologise :D
Love to hear your thoughts, particularly on my Airan case.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:11 am
by Egix96
In post 229, faüstiv wrote: Rereading Drayanth I’m less certain he’s town now. Not calling him scum, just going to move him to null/town.
When you get back, could you elaborate on this, i.e. is there anything specific that gave you that impression?
In post 233, Draynth wrote:We have ~3 and a half days left by the way, should start trying to consolidate wagons/votes onto optimal lynches if possible.
Sure.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Airan303

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:02 am
by Jamelia
In post 232, Errantparabola wrote:
pretty soon you'll find some nice young
satanist with braces and one
capital o, significant other


- Beach Life-in-Death,
Twin Fantasy


votecount 1.9


Airan303
(2): Spangled, NotMySpamAccount
NotMySpamAccount
(2): Geyde, Draynth
faüstiv
(1): Jamelia
Geyde
(1): faüstiv
Spangled
(1): Egix96

Not Voting
(2): Airan303, UrVeggieM8

Prodding Airan303 & Geyde.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-09-27 09:56:00)
I believe we are at L-1 if Faustiv’s vote counts when they fix their formatting. If anyone is going to hammer please put your intent out there before doing so!

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:06 am
by faüstiv
UNVOTE: Airan303

I still think he’s mafia, but I don’t want anyone hammering him before he or his replacement responds to the points made against him.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:27 am
by Spangled
@faüstiv
Vote using the vote tags, otherwise your vote won’t be counted!

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:50 am
by Jamelia
Seems like the game is on a stand still since Geyde/Aidan haven’t been online since yesterday morning. I also would like to wait until Aidan comes back to hear what he has to say, so hopefully they come back or get prodded quick enough so we can have a discussion about this before the deadline

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:22 pm
by UrVeggieM8
Making this post so that I don't get prodded/replaced myself! Not entirely convinced of Spangled's town-ness just yet but I (hopefully) have a better read on them than either faüstiv or Airan. So I'm choosing to put my trust in their post about newb-scum behaviour and agree with both faüstiv and Airan lynch-wagons. I am a little bit torn as to who I should vote for though. I still think something's up with faüstiv and am leaning towards lynching them based on gut instinct but in terms of utility, I think an Airan lynch would probably provide more information.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:06 pm
by Spangled
In post 241, UrVeggieM8 wrote:Making this post so that I don't get prodded/replaced myself! Not entirely convinced of Spangled's town-ness just yet but I (hopefully) have a better read on them than either faüstiv or Airan. So I'm choosing to put my trust in their post about newb-scum behaviour and agree with both faüstiv and Airan lynch-wagons. I am a little bit torn as to who I should vote for though. I still think something's up with faüstiv and am leaning towards lynching them based on gut instinct but in terms of utility, I think an Airan lynch would probably provide more information.
What more information would an Airan lynch provide than a faüstiv one?
And what do you think is ‘up’ about faüstiv?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:14 pm
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 242, Spangled wrote:
In post 241, UrVeggieM8 wrote:Making this post so that I don't get prodded/replaced myself! Not entirely convinced of Spangled's town-ness just yet but I (hopefully) have a better read on them than either faüstiv or Airan. So I'm choosing to put my trust in their post about newb-scum behaviour and agree with both faüstiv and Airan lynch-wagons. I am a little bit torn as to who I should vote for though. I still think something's up with faüstiv and am leaning towards lynching them based on gut instinct but in terms of utility, I think an Airan lynch would probably provide more information.
What more information would an Airan lynch provide than a faüstiv one?
And what do you think is ‘up’ about faüstiv?
Airan is more likely to be scum. Also prodge.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:22 pm
by Spangled
In post 243, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 242, Spangled wrote:
In post 241, UrVeggieM8 wrote:Making this post so that I don't get prodded/replaced myself! Not entirely convinced of Spangled's town-ness just yet but I (hopefully) have a better read on them than either faüstiv or Airan. So I'm choosing to put my trust in their post about newb-scum behaviour and agree with both faüstiv and Airan lynch-wagons. I am a little bit torn as to who I should vote for though. I still think something's up with faüstiv and am leaning towards lynching them based on gut instinct but in terms of utility, I think an Airan lynch would probably provide more information.
What more information would an Airan lynch provide than a faüstiv one?
And what do you think is ‘up’ about faüstiv?
Airan is more likely to be scum. Also prodge.
Well Veg seems to reckon that faüstiv is more likely scum than Airan, and seems only to be acquiescing because Airan will ‘provide more information’, seemingly regardless of flip... which seems strange to me, as I don’t see what more information Airan would provide — disregarding flipping scum, ‘cause that’s not an info-lynch, it’s a scumlynch (I hope).

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:36 pm
by NotMySpamAccount
In post 244, Spangled wrote:
In post 243, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 242, Spangled wrote:
In post 241, UrVeggieM8 wrote:Making this post so that I don't get prodded/replaced myself! Not entirely convinced of Spangled's town-ness just yet but I (hopefully) have a better read on them than either faüstiv or Airan. So I'm choosing to put my trust in their post about newb-scum behaviour and agree with both faüstiv and Airan lynch-wagons. I am a little bit torn as to who I should vote for though. I still think something's up with faüstiv and am leaning towards lynching them based on gut instinct but in terms of utility, I think an Airan lynch would probably provide more information.
What more information would an Airan lynch provide than a faüstiv one?
And what do you think is ‘up’ about faüstiv?
Airan is more likely to be scum. Also prodge.
Well Veg seems to reckon that faüstiv is more likely scum than Airan, and seems only to be acquiescing because Airan will ‘provide more information’, seemingly regardless of flip... which seems strange to me, as I don’t see what more information Airan would provide — disregarding flipping scum, ‘cause that’s not an info-lynch, it’s a scumlynch (I hope).
Good point.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:11 pm
by Geyde
In post 240, Jamelia wrote:Seems like the game is on a stand still since Geyde/Aidan haven’t been online since yesterday morning. I also would like to wait until Aidan comes back to hear what he has to say, so hopefully they come back or get prodded quick enough so we can have a discussion about this before the deadline
I've just gotten back from visiting colleges
I'll reread thread in the morning

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:50 pm
by Errantparabola
Airan303 is being replaced. Deadline will be frozen for the time it takes to get a replacement.


(edited in retrospect to fix color.)

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:44 pm
by faüstiv
Dryanth hasn’t said anything that screams town. His analysis could easily come from a scum perspective; him asking questions to numerous other players is something scum would do d1 to ‘fly under the radar’ so to speak (as if they’re interrogating one specific player, that could disturb trust in the town) but I get a town vibe from post 28. That’s why I think he is null/town.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:52 pm
by faüstiv
In post 24, Airan303 wrote:I find it scummy because instead of voting for anyone else to check reactions, he voted for someone who had already been voted for.

I am not saying spam is a scum, or that you should vote for him. I am just saying that what he did was scummy
“I’m not saying he’s scum but what he did there is scummy” is classic scum play. He’s scared of ruffling any feathers.
In post 29, Airan303 wrote:
Egix96 wrote:
In post 24, Airan303 wrote:I find it scummy because instead of voting for anyone else to check reactions, he voted for someone who had already been voted for.

I am not saying spam is a scum, or that you should vote for him. I am just saying that what he did was scummy
I mean, from what I've seen, RVS bandwagoning is fairly common on this site.
So I personally wouldn't consider it scummy, it's just a site meta thing.
Okay sure. But voting for veggie and not for anyone else is still a bit suspicious. I mean why bandwagon? :?
“A bit suspicious”. Again, he’s trying to mitigate it as much as possible whilst planting any seeds should that BW have gone anywhere. If that player was ok L1, he could use it a shame part of his case to get him lynched.
In post 39, Airan303 wrote:Ok thanks for all the replies. This is my first game here, so it’s natural I might find scum where there isn’t any. I just find bandwagons a bit suspicious, because scum might jump upon them quickly to get an innocent lynched. But because the bandwagon was at the start of the game, I am probably being a bit too paranoid.
“I find bandwagons suspicious, which I pointed out earlier, but because this BW was early in, maybe I’m paranoid”. Again he’s scared of pointing fingers. Town would be more assertive, more interrogative. Airan’s post here seems like he is trying to avoid a lynch on himself.
In post 49, Airan303 wrote:
faüstiv wrote:
In post 36, UrVeggieM8 wrote:VOTE: faustiv

Sorry, reposting because I voted the incorrect way before!
Why are you voting me?
This might be because you seem (through no fault of your own) a bit of a lurker.
I didn’t ask Airan for his opinion, yet he gave it anyway. For me, I think he’s trying to score townie points here by pointing this out.
In post 76, Airan303 wrote:Thanks for your opinion. I’m sorry if agreeing with spangled seemed suspicious. I kind of regret agreeing now. Although it is good, it is just asking for an opinion which still hasn’t been answered.
In post 196, Airan303 wrote:Yeah, I think that spam has got tunnel vision. Not sure if this makes him scum...
Again he’s afraid of suspecting someone. Again his play is safe. His ‘analysis’ has not helped town. He’s not interrogated anyone because he is too scared to. Airan is a player looking to survive rather than scumhunt.