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Yoink.

The post never comes from town either. How does it imply one's alignment?

In post 115, Poyzin wrote:

In post 96, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 67, Poyzin wrote:

In post 65, QuantumQuasar wrote:Who's the best player here, imho it's either Notajumbleofnumbers or offsuit and they haven't posted yet

This post never comes from scum.

Explain.
You can't throw out a statement like this without clarifying.

Scum doesn’t call the entirety of the active player list bad, or at least that none of them are “the best” players. I don’t think I’m the best player here but it’s unnecessarily confrontational and scum does not benefit at all from posting this, especially when QQ was never the focus of the thread at any time yet thus far.

I liked this reasoning. Tbh it’s also the juxtaposition of QQ - I don’t think a newb who is as fearful of lolwagons throws out a line like this as scum. I think they’re more likely to lock up/silent than talk.

In post 227, teacher wrote:

In post 115, Poyzin wrote:

In post 96, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 67, Poyzin wrote:

In post 65, QuantumQuasar wrote:Who's the best player here, imho it's either Notajumbleofnumbers or offsuit and they haven't posted yet

This post never comes from scum.

Explain.
You can't throw out a statement like this without clarifying.

Scum doesn’t call the entirety of the active player list bad, or at least that none of them are “the best” players. I don’t think I’m the best player here but it’s unnecessarily confrontational and scum does not benefit at all from posting this, especially when QQ was never the focus of the thread at any time yet thus far.

I liked this reasoning. Tbh it’s also the juxtaposition of QQ - I don’t think a newb who is as fearful of lolwagons throws out a line like this as scum. I think they’re more likely to lock up/silent than talk.

I agree. Just read QQ's only scum game (over) and he seemed locked up/silent.
Could be a ploy, but I agree. Slight TR on QQ.

Sup?

What is this about me talking to myself QQ? I don't think it's really game relevant at all, so maybe you could try and generate that into a read?

In post 229, Quick wrote:Sup?

Please address #207 so we can move forwards with the game, thanks.

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

In post 231, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

I’m not an expert in psychoanalysis, _{(despite me mentioning psychoanalysis in my first post. Ironic how it comes full circle...)} but I have a decent understanding of it enough to get by. My understand is that a Freudian Slip in the instance of mafia would be if I slipped and said TMI without even realizing that what I said TMI in the first place, but you brought it up so I’d love to hear your definition.

In post 232, Poyzin wrote:it

“it” refers to Freudian Slips, not psychoanalytics.

@teacher, what's your read / opinion on Jumble?

In post 232, Poyzin wrote:

In post 231, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

I’m not an expert in psychoanalysis, _{(despite me mentioning psychoanalysis in my first post. Ironic how it comes full circle...)} but I have a decent understanding of it enough to get by. My understand is that a Freudian Slip in the instance of mafia would be if I slipped and said TMI without even realizing that what I said

was

TMI in the first place, but you brought it up so I’d love to hear your definition.

I'll take that as a no or playing dumb.

In post 197, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:I have formed opinions about people here. I just didn't feel like those opinions were strong enough to use my vote on. Now with that being said...

VOTE: Quick

I'm just not a huge fan of his constant sarcastic replies.

Why would you think that comes from scum?

VOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers

In post 235, Quick wrote:

In post 232, Poyzin wrote:

In post 231, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

I’m not an expert in psychoanalysis, _{(despite me mentioning psychoanalysis in my first post. Ironic how it comes full circle...)} but I have a decent understanding of it enough to get by. My understanding is that a Freudian Slip in the instance of mafia would be if I slipped and said TMI without even realizing that what I said

was

TMI in the first place, but you brought it up so I’d love to hear your definition.

I'll take that as a no or playing dumb.

I'm not an expert in psychoanalysis. You were waiting to ask this question so that you could have the higher ground with your needless pedanticism. Instead of trotting around on your high horse in #235, maybe it would be beneficial to provide your definition of what a Freudian Slip is so that we can make progress.



Frankly, I'm appalled that you would ever think I'm playing dumb here. I would never have any reason to play dumb in this situation, and I haven't played dumb ever in this game. I understand that you're saying it to piss me off and inflate your ego that you say things that only you understand and then blame "us peasants" for not getting your terminology, and I'm rather insulted. You mentioned a Freudian Slip, so I figured that it would be in my best interest to do research on it, and research I did. After you mentioned a "feudian slip", there was no reason for me not to figure out what one was, so I decided to look into the term so that we could have an equal understanding. Evidently, a level playing field was never your intention, as you used a term that wasn't even a significant part of your argument, didn't provide a definition nor how it made me scummy, and then shamed me for not knowing such an obscure psychoanalytics term. If you really wanted to be a helpful member of the town, you would at the minimum provide a definition for it anywhere instead of make me try to understand the context through out-of-game investigations (BBC, Psychology Today, Wikipedia). The definition is a slip of the tongue that reveals an unconscious aspect about the speaker. I'd say my own definition as it pertains to mafia was darned close, and I still fail to see how "Fear active scum" is ever an example here.

In post 237, Poyzin wrote:and then blame "us peasants" for not getting your terminology

For the record, this is an exaggeration, but it is definitely the tone that you transmit.

In post 237, Poyzin wrote:

In post 235, Quick wrote:

In post 232, Poyzin wrote:

In post 231, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

I’m not an expert in psychoanalysis, _{(despite me mentioning psychoanalysis in my first post. Ironic how it comes full circle...)} but I have a decent understanding of it enough to get by. My understanding is that a Freudian Slip in the instance of mafia would be if I slipped and said TMI without even realizing that what I said

was

TMI in the first place, but you brought it up so I’d love to hear your definition.

I'll take that as a no or playing dumb.

I'm not an expert in psychoanalysis. You were waiting to ask this question so that you could have the higher ground with your needless pedanticism. Instead of trotting around on your high horse in #235, maybe it would be beneficial to provide your definition of what a Freudian Slip is so that we can make progress.

How do you expect to argue against the fact it's a Freudian slip if you don't know what a freudian slip is?

My point in calling that a Freudian slip is that you could have very well been saying YOU were active Scum. That would be what the freudian slip is.

In post 239, Quick wrote:

In post 237, Poyzin wrote:

In post 235, Quick wrote:

In post 232, Poyzin wrote:

In post 231, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Poyzin wrote:

How is this a Freudian Slip?

Do you know what a freudian slip is? Y/N?

I’m not an expert in psychoanalysis, _{(despite me mentioning psychoanalysis in my first post. Ironic how it comes full circle...)} but I have a decent understanding of it enough to get by. My understanding is that a Freudian Slip in the instance of mafia would be if I slipped and said TMI without even realizing that what I said

was

TMI in the first place, but you brought it up so I’d love to hear your definition.

I'll take that as a no or playing dumb.

I'm not an expert in psychoanalysis. You were waiting to ask this question so that you could have the higher ground with your needless pedanticism. Instead of trotting around on your high horse in #235, maybe it would be beneficial to provide your definition of what a Freudian Slip is so that we can make progress.

How do you expect to argue against the fact it's a Freudian slip if you don't know what a freudian slip is?

My point in calling that a Freudian slip is that you could have very well been saying YOU were active Scum. That would be what the freudian slip is.

Like I’ve said before, I’d like to think I have a decent understanding of what a Freudian Slip is, but if it’s not good enough according to your standards then I’d like to hear your rationale.

It’s not actually a Freudian Slip though. I was criticizing the town read of me. Saying I’m townie because I’m active is wholly faulty logic, as scum can very well be active, which would completely ruin the read. Scum would have no incentive to bring attention to this, and would take the town read an move on. Unless you’re saying I should townread the people who townread me, and scumread the people who scumread me. However, this is also terribly unwise, so I fail to see the problem with me warning players to fear active scum.

If I was scum, then I suppose it could be a Freudian Slip. But because I’m town, it’s all conjecture and hypothetical, and cannot be used to support your case, even as additional evidence.

Can you please just finish addressing #207

In post 241, Poyzin wrote:It’s not actually a Freudian Slip though.

How do I know that?

I was criticizing the town read of me. Saying I’m townie because I’m active is wholly faulty logic, as scum can very well be active, which would completely ruin the read.

I've seen it be right more often than not. Plus my early TRs are usually accurate. I don't get you fighting the TR on you here if you are Scum, but you have done a number of things that are completely bizarre so I can't rule all this out as a ruse.

Scum would have no incentive to bring attention to this, and would take the town read an move on. Unless you’re saying I should townread the people who townread me, and scumread the people who scumread me. However, this is also terribly unwise, so I fail to see the problem with me warning players to fear active scum.

I am trying to understand your play here and you as a person. You not answering my questions isn't helping you - even if you think it's a nonsense question to ask if you are a flat-earther or not. That actually helps me read you by you answering that.

If I was scum, then I suppose it could be a Freudian Slip. But because I’m town, it’s all conjecture and hypothetical, and cannot be used to support your case, even as additional evidence.

What do you even mean here? "I'm Town, therefore you can't use that as evidence against me." I suppose I should just believe you? Is that really how you would want me to play this game? I never said that alone was enough to damn you. This is another instance where you are not actually taking all of what I said into account and are just basically picking the parts you don't like. There is Scum motivation for doing that, so I really suggest you start reading what I am saying more carefully.

My posts are bolded in blue again. Once you're done reading, I would like it if you could return to #207 and answer my questions, unless there's something in this post that you would like to respond to, and if so, please do.

Quick wrote:

In post 241, Poyzin wrote:It’s not actually a Freudian Slip though.

How do I know that?

You don't. You don't know if it is or it isn't.

I was criticizing the town read of me. Saying I’m townie because I’m active is wholly faulty logic, as scum can very well be active, which would completely ruin the read.

I've seen it be right more often than not. Plus my early TRs are usually accurate. I don't get you fighting the TR on you here if you are Scum, but you have done a number of things that are completely bizarre so I can't rule all this out as a ruse.

If you don't get me fighting a poor TR if I'm scum... have you considered the fact that maybe I'm just not scum then? It seems to me that you're pushing a narrative with little to no evidence and trying to force a bunch of quotes to work for you, but that's just my opinion. You're free to scumread me as you wish, but here you're admitting that it doesn't make much sense for scum!Me to act like that, yet you insist that it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense.

To that point, this is the very first time that you have brought up me or my actions as being "completely bizarre". This of course isn't true, unless you can prove me wrong and find something that I've said that is completely bizarre.

Scum would have no incentive to bring attention to this, and would take the town read an move on. Unless you’re saying I should townread the people who townread me, and scumread the people who scumread me. However, this is also terribly unwise, so I fail to see the problem with me warning players to fear active scum.

I am trying to understand your play here and you as a person. You not answering my questions isn't helping you - even if you think it's a nonsense question to ask if you are a flat-earther or not. That actually helps me read you by you answering that.

You're perfectly incorrect here. I have no reason to answer your nonsense questions because they are completely and utterly nonsense. Your question about what planet I was born on is nonsense, and you very well know the answer to that. (On the other hand, your flat-earth question is sadly not common knowledge due to the existence of flat earth communities, so I guess I can let you know that I believe the earth is round). However, you are completely lying when you say that my answer to what planet I was born on or whether I believe the earth is flat does not help your read of me. In the end, you are going to scumread me regardless, so I'll have to deal with this as a liability and move on. In the previous post, you admitted to forcing yourself to scumread me despite me making decisions that you agree make no sense from a scum PoV. So yes, I'm calling your bluff here. How does me saying "Earth" when asked what planet I was born on influence your read of me?

If I was scum, then I suppose it could be a Freudian Slip. But because I’m town, it’s all conjecture and hypothetical, and cannot be used to support your case, even as additional evidence.

What do you even mean here? "I'm Town, therefore you can't use that as evidence against me." I suppose I should just believe you? Is that really how you would want me to play this game? I never said that alone was enough to damn you. This is another instance where you are not actually taking all of what I said into account and are just basically picking the parts you don't like. There is Scum motivation for doing that, so I really suggest you start reading what I am saying more carefully.

It's not evidence because its completely conjecture. We could argue for hours about whether it was a Freudian Slip or not, and get nowhere because I won't be able to convince you. You have no idea if it's a Freudian Slip or not, so therefore you can't use it as evidence and say that it is. If the TL;DR of your case is that I'm scum, then the post that you describe as "maybe a Freudian Slip" should not be used. If I flip scum, then it's a Freudian Slip. If I flip town, then it's not. It's purely conditional of my flip, one that you don't have any confirmation on. And besides, a good case should rely on more than just conjecture and should use evidence where it is beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm scum.

In post 244, Poyzin wrote:However, you are completely lying when you say that my answer to what planet I was born on or whether I believe the earth is flat does not help your read of me.

EBWOP
"You are completely lying when you say that my answers to your nonsense questions will help you with your read of me"

(Also, I didn't respond to your nonsense questions at the time because I didn't believe you were deserving of an answer from me that you already knew.)

In post 245, Poyzin wrote:

In post 244, Poyzin wrote:However, you are completely lying when you say that my answer to what planet I was born on or whether I believe the earth is flat does not help your read of me.

EBWOP
"You are completely lying when you say that my answers to your nonsense questions will help you with your read of me"

I don't really care about going back and forth with you. And no, your wrong. Your answers tell me a lot about you as a person which is how I generate a lot of my reads.

I have MORE reason to SR you based on your answer that you believe the earth is round fwiw...

In post 180, Quick wrote:

In post 175, Poyzin wrote:Quick trying to appear like a noob

What planet were you born on?

Earth

In post 190, Quick wrote:

In post 188, Poyzin wrote:

In post 187, Quick wrote:

In post 185, teacher wrote:@poyZin, yours - there was a degree of not picking up sarcasm in your responses to him — of course he k owns what null means.

Stop interrupting my Scum hunting. I would like him to answer what planet he thought he was born on. Thanks.

No, I’m not going to answer that.

Okay, answer this then...

Is the earth round or flat?

Round




The questions have been officially answered. Your turn.