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PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, DonCorleone, PookyTheMagicalBear, votato

Deimos27 [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, votato, DonCorleone, SleeperSoul, Deimos27

Tuxedo Mask [5]:

Deimos27, Alduskkel, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, Tuxedo Mask

SleeperSoul [5]:

votato, Tuxedo Mask, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Deimos27

DonCorleone [3]:

DonCorleone, SleeperSoul, Clover Ebi

Alduskkel [3]:

Alduskkel, votato, SleeperSoul

votato [0]:

Clover Ebi [0]:

bugspray [0]:

lynch

SleeperSoul (1):

Deimos27

Tuxedo Mask (1):

DonCorleone

not voting (7):

Alduskkel, votato, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Tuxedo Mask, bugspray

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Datisi did u run out of flavour already?

oh i thought maybe that would be considered day 2 but i guess it'd be more like day 1 phase 2?

pedit: why not
or can you not explain that either

ppedit: ok but if your coalition fails then you're just going to say "ok i was wrong but i'm town so you shouldn't lynch me"

Why is Clover town?

I don’t really need to explain it yet and if tux is scum I don’t want them knowing what they’re doing that’s scummy so they can correct for it. Like there’s not generally a huge benefit to town for me explaining why I have the reads I have early into a game while those are still in flux. Scum start off with more info and I don’t really care to provide additional info until I need to provide it to town

In post 227, Alduskkel wrote:ok but if your coalition fails then you're just going to say "ok i was wrong but i'm town so you shouldn't lynch me"

I would never

Townie town plus another thing that I’m also not explaining yet @deimos

Townie tone* ffs

In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.

are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.

In post 210, Deimos27 wrote:Pooky can you comment on the difference in your state of mind here compared to in Lovers?

in that game we were trying to lynch people who are bad

in this game we are trying to figure out who is good and convince other people you are good.

We build a good coalition on day 1 we won't even have to do the scum hunting thing so obviously the approach is completely different.

Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching

In post 230, DonCorleone wrote:

In post 227, Alduskkel wrote:ok but if your coalition fails then you're just going to say "ok i was wrong but i'm town so you shouldn't lynch me"

I would never

Building on this: I think it probably would be best to lynch me if I am sheeped on a coalition and it’s wrong. I doubt I’d be so wrong as to have both scum in it, which would mean 1 scum inside and 1 scum outside. If I get lynched so be it, I can give my best bet on who’s the scum inside it first, and then you’ll know that I’m straight up when I get flipped. Then unless scum wanna narrow it down further, they’ll prob kill outside the coalition which will mean D2 two pools of (3 town, 1 scum)(2 town, 1 scum)

If you get the scum inside the coalition on D2 then you’re gold going into D3 and it probably makes the most sense to look outside the coalition D3/4, plus NKA will probably be useful.

And the plus plus is in a case where I’m very wrong and there are two scum in the coalition, you’ll have a raw 66% chance to lynch scum on D3 assuming no kills inside the coalition and a mislynch D2 (earlier possible lylo situation) which is p good.

The only really worrying scenario is D3 if there’s only 1 scum in the coalition, that would prob be the hardest one to solve, but again, I figure it’s unlikely

In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.

are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.

You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.

Yo pooky what did you think of my coalition?

Tux reading the thread but not commenting on my callout is also a bad look lol

In post 239, DonCorleone wrote:Tux reading the thread but not commenting on my callout is also a bad look lol

I don't comment on call outs. If you have questions for me I'll answer them. If there is a conversation to be had I'll have it. You just saying I'm scum and then saying you won't explain would be a waste of everyone's time to comment on.

In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching

This is a very good response and I feel like an idiot for not making the connection on my own.

In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.

that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.

In post 241, Deimos27 wrote:

In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching

This is a very good response and I feel like an idiot for not making the connection on my own.

I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum

In post 242, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.

that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.

I consider your playstyle a distraction regardless. If you think someone is scummy and can convince others, that seems like a good way to keep scum out of the coalition.

You don't see why scumhunting is inherently more aggressive than townhunting?

In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I consider your playstyle a distraction regardless. If you think someone is scummy and can convince others, that seems like a good way to keep scum out of the coalition.

I'm gonna keep scum out of my coalition by not picking them to be in it.

In post 238, DonCorleone wrote:Yo pooky what did you think of my coalition?

its only 3 people right now

you Im fine with
sleeper I'm fine with

I'd have to re-read ebi

Tux, you're straying into the territory of debating optimal play rather than debating how the setup changes his frame of mind.
It's actually quite irrelevant whether you think scumhunting is still a high priority in this setup.

In post 243, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum

You're really comparing my workday post count to my weekend post count?

What could possibly be the reason for the difference. Let me think about that and get back to you.