Mini Normal 2157 | Mason PT

[Billy Pilgrim]

lets go for Bob. There's 4 conf!townies at the moment.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I buy his claim. It wouldn't have returned guilty to a loyal neighborizer (which he didn't even know) and it explains the track. You backpedaling makes it clear that you're both town. And you are probably lower priority if you don't fullclaim.

[Datisi]

the issue is if he tries to investigate one of you and i get killed instead of him... ok hope not hope fUCKING NOT

[Billy Pilgrim]

Go to sleep. Just chill. We reassess when you've slept.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I think Koba comes out looking weird in this exchange. Like that comment about scum knowing that maybe someone tracked him to Bailey.

[Datisi]

koba says weird shit. i don't know how to read him.

man, when you were like "lol imagine if we tracked a cop to bailey" i was like naahhhhhhhh what are the odds of that

[Datisi]

read them*, sorry.

[Datisi]

Fine.

I'm a PT cop. I investigated George Bailey last night. Got no result because he died. Was trying to root out the scum who was sitting in the background.

a note for post-game: i literally felt my soul leave my body when i read this.

[Billy Pilgrim]

We need to make a decision between the 3 of us. Either Baltar is conf town, or scum had a voyeur on Baltar as he was making the kill and figured out that there was a tracker on him and that there wasn't a neighborizer attempt, and so they came up with a fakeclaim to get the tracker.

Those are the two possibilities and we need to figure it out.

[Datisi]

occam's says he's town. though i'd reckon there's no more room for PRs left.

[Datisi]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560

this game had a somewhat similar setup.

1. Mafia 1-Shot Strongman
   
   
2. Mafia 1-Shot Ninja
   
   
3. Mafia Night 3+ Encryptor
   
   
4. Town Complex Announcing PT Cop
   
   
5. Town Mason Mailman
   
   
6. Town Mason Encryptor
   
   
7. Town Mason
   
   
8. Vanilla Townie
   
   
9. Vanilla Townie
   
   
10. Vanilla Townie
    
    
11. Vanilla Townie
    
    
12. Vanilla Townie
    
    
13. Vanilla Townie

ungated PT cop + 3 masons + one of the masons being a tracker... i can see that. scum probably has a PR or two for counterplay and/or finding masons, maybe they have a traitor (fake inno on the PT cop), idk. i know schadd makes ~funky~ setups. anyway i don't think baltar is scum. just, the way he was going around claiming, even before he dropped the PT cop claim, i was feeling that he's telling the truth (but unfortunately it was way too late to back down hahA)

scum having a PT cop is possible. but that would mean that a) baltar did the factional NK, b) took the claim from one of his scumbuddies.

now, i think it's gonna be obvious in time if he's scum, and i'm betting on no.

[Datisi]

oh yeah, important shit we need to discuss:

baltar can be used as a cop here, if i can leash him. do you think it's a good idea for me to ~hint~ at me being a mason to get him to agree to be leashed to (1) make sure baltar doesn't get a false guilty on one of you and (2) to try to get the nightkill onto me? a town PT cop is worth more than a town mason right now.

[Billy Pilgrim]

oh yeah, important shit we need to discuss:

baltar can be used as a cop here, if i can leash him. do you think it's a good idea for me to ~hint~ at me being a mason to get him to agree to be leashed to (1) make sure baltar doesn't get a false guilty on one of you and (2) to try to get the nightkill onto me? a town PT cop is worth more than a town mason right now.

Not a bad idea.

[Datisi]

is ico town?

[Billy Pilgrim]

is ico town?

There a reason youre doubting it?

[hellbooks]

that was p unlucky my friends

[hellbooks]

i think vp will just like die here and the mason operation is p valuable to have going esp if billy & i can steer clear of the NK which it seems like we're gonna do a p bangup job doing

[hellbooks]

i think vp will just like die here and the mason operation is p valuable to have going esp if billy & i can steer clear of the NK which it seems like we're gonna do a p bangup job doing

[hellbooks]

getting pushed as a mason is like the funnies fucking thing of all time

[Datisi]

is ico town?

There a reason youre doubting it?

if my reads seem to be ass backwards, can't help but wonder. also the lowkey "hey datisi might have actually tracked the scumkill" thing is making we think he amy have seen a tvt fight he can cash in... but it's just paranoia speaking. idk.

[Billy Pilgrim]

getting pushed as a mason is like the funnies fucking thing of all time

You calling me out for coasting is kinda not making me happy though tbh.

[Datisi]

oh yeah, another thing worrying me is that in a lot of people's PoEs (ico, koba) you two appear as scum. which is an issue, because we know that's wrong...

[Datisi]

man i am having a blast going "well you see the reason i tracked baltar is..."

like i just really fucking hope i die before the masonry is outed so that everyone and their mother has a stroke when i flip town mason

[Billy Pilgrim]

oh yeah, another thing worrying me is that in a lot of people's PoEs (ico, koba) you two appear as scum. which is an issue, because we know that's wrong...

Yeah, icons flip flop and sorta layoff when I was getting pushed is feeling a bit off.

Dats, normally that would make me worry about a deepwolf, and icon is the candidate for that at the moment. Should we pressure there or just investigate it?

[Datisi]

do you agree with the following: "if i keep townreading icon in-thread, it will make him feel safe, and if he's scum, he's likely to be doing the factional nightkill"?

if yes, i think there's merit in tracking him tonight. i don't think we're getting an ico flip today *ever*, so might not be much point in pushing it. but i don't scumread him otherwise it's just a couple of things pinging me and sigh... i don't know.