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I don't like that weakness, and I want to actively push myself to overcome it, but it's best to answer questions like that quickly and honestly imo

i think i'm +town on chara. i liked the take in 160, and even though i think i shouldn't be giving townpoints for 146, i still kinda do? the "our scumteam depended on the town frustration from no flips" thing strikes me as a weird thing for scum to write for some reason?

In post 158, Chara wrote:Tanner's above null for now. i don't want to put a lot of weight in where he falls on the spare/fight debate. i have concrete thoughts on this but i want Tanner back in the thread first, so you can ask me again after that happens.

why am i above null for you, assuming it isn't 47? also hi i am back

In post 139, CantHateAPuppy wrote:(ok, ok, besides tanner from earlier i also kind of like pooky, i just think there are some good vibes there. i want to like hectic more than i actually do rn tbh)

can you talk about your ~good vibes~ on pooky? i'm lowkey feeling nervous due to the push for spares

In post 151, CantHateAPuppy wrote:but i think my light tr is also half wanting him to be town so we can play town together as an apology.

<3
also no meme, puppy is feeling different than he did in that game, so guess i'm townreading him!

< obligatory complaint about the mechtalk getting in the way of forming reads here >

Prism: well, i appreciate that you answered all the same.

it's not the same thing, but it does remind me of how i can feel changes in my own playstyle. i'm continuing to press reads on weaker reasons in order to see them grow/generate readable content, but now i want to be more explicit about which reads i'd stake the game on and which are still in progress/unreliable. and interrogating my own reads both introspectively and in-thread with the read target. the latter i think i need to improve on. i never developed the "how to interrogate a player" skill early and now i'm having to learn it now.
the act of striking fast with early reads i still find useful in terms of content generation/gauging reactions.

i'm not sure how much of this is a genuine portrayal of my own play and how much of it is in my head, though.

hi tanner! why did you vote Lavender when you did? this question is what i was referring to in 158.

In post 228, Chara wrote:hi tanner! why did you vote Lavender when you did? this question is what i was referring to in 158.

all their their posts up to that point (other than one) were early game shitposting (nothing against that), but once the discussion turned to mech-talk and deciding we should probably be fighting someone today, their "hmm what now?" (46) struck me as insecure scummy in a way? as if they didn't have anything to contribute to the discussion, either mech or gameplay, but also wanted to give an appearance of Being There.

i have a positive read on Chara/catboi/Prism and probably a slight one on Puppy/Tanner. Puppy moreso than Tanner. Also maybe redtea. So like catboi>Chara>Prism>Puppy>Tanner>redtea

Undecided so far on {Hectic, Lavender, Pooky, taylor, and Elements}

HEAL: catboi
HURT: Elements

I have no idea how Elements got Puppy changing his tune from 193. also sheeping Chara

Elements should have known the context for puppys post, he was just talking to Hectic about it 2 posts above it! I am curious as to what the intent of pointing this out really was

In post 230, Morning Tweet wrote:Puppy moreso than Tanner.

is this because his avatar is cuter than mine? (つ﹏<。)

In post 231, Tanner wrote:

In post 230, Morning Tweet wrote:Puppy moreso than Tanner.

is this because his avatar is cuter than mine? (つ﹏<。)

i'm sorry i have a bias!! (>﹏<)

I think i like your post on Lavender, i like you being negative towards the spare route (like pointing out its flaws that weren't brought up til then)

im not sold yet tho. cute animal in avatar might have pushed you over the edge but alas

i think our reads are ~more-or-less similar. i take that as a good sign? also can you talk about the Prism townread, is there anything other than mech-effort?

HURT: elements

tanner/puppy townbloc is a-go, this is not a drill! awoooooooooooga

Tanner wrote:i think our reads are ~more-or-less similar. i take that as a good sign? also can you talk about the Prism townread, is there anything other than mech-effort?

HURT: elements

My reads came after yours though (or at least after most people agreed those few are town), I think they're mostly consensus-y so far tbh. The mech talk is making this a bit tricky for me but I already went over that. I don't have great confidence in my reads as of yet

Prism's last few posts felt especially genuine to me
Unsure he pulls out the "No I don't have reads on them, I'm not happy about it, I'm working on it but I wanted to be honest" as scum

Yeah he could have but i'm leaning against it

Also this falls under the mech talk point, but somebody mentioned Prism did the numbers without even showing his work, so therefore he wasn't too concerned with looking good, he just wanted to have the right conclusion. I think that reflects well on him too

In post 219, Prism wrote:

In post 175, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ill participate properly when you all decide what strategy we should do. im very much of the opinion that mech talk and EVs are pretty much NAI and using them to justify strategy is gonna let scum persuade us to do what they want more often than not. it seems to me that a fight day 1 and then sparing later days is a good idea, but i really havent thought about it that much

This attitude is really curious. Do you feel any of me, Hectic, or catboi are arguing EVs with scum intent? (ie. to push town into something scum wants)

If you're worried that scum is going to use EVs to persuade the town in a certain direction, essentially recusing yourself from the conversation and leaving it to others to decide without you-and giving the scum voices that much more weight-seems counterproductive imo.

nah but im mostly skimming the mech talk. im here to play mafia, and when you all are ready to do that let me know. unfortunately im not gonna be able to force myself to care about mech talk when its this mathematical. if the mechanics are simple and qualitative discussions are possible im here. but if you all wanna crunch numbers ill pass. i do enough number crunching outside this game already.

In post 219, Prism wrote:

In post 175, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ill participate properly when you all decide what strategy we should do. im very much of the opinion that mech talk and EVs are pretty much NAI and using them to justify strategy is gonna let scum persuade us to do what they want more often than not. it seems to me that a fight day 1 and then sparing later days is a good idea, but i really havent thought about it that much

This attitude is really curious. Do you feel any of me, Hectic, or catboi are arguing EVs with scum intent? (ie. to push town into something scum wants)

If you're worried that scum is going to use EVs to persuade the town in a certain direction, essentially recusing yourself from the conversation and leaving it to others to decide without you-and giving the scum voices that much more weight-seems counterproductive imo.

nah but im mostly skimming the mech talk. im here to play mafia, and when you all are ready to do that let me know. unfortunately im not gonna be able to force myself to care about mech talk when its this mathematical. if the mechanics are simple and qualitative discussions are possible im here. but if you all wanna crunch numbers ill pass. i do enough number crunching outside this game already.

In post 235, Morning Tweet wrote:My reads came after yours though (or at least after most people agreed those few are town), I think they're mostly consensus-y so far tbh. The mech talk is making this a bit tricky for me but I already went over that. I don't have great confidence in my reads as of yet

/shrug, perhaps. let me enjoy the early townblocc while it lasts goddammit

In post 237, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im here to play mafia, and when you all are ready to do that let me know.

bold of you to keep saying how you want to play mafia when the only read you've given so far amounts to "i like this person's avatar".

i kind of want to do more, but i also feel pretty ok atm. im ok with my townreads, i'm ok with my votes on elements, and i'm ok with my position on the fight/spare thing. not sure what else there is to do except wait for other people to firm themselves up a bit. (and then you can vote elements with me!)

In post 226, Tanner wrote:

In post 139, CantHateAPuppy wrote:(ok, ok, besides tanner from earlier i also kind of like pooky, i just think there are some good vibes there. i want to like hectic more than i actually do rn tbh)

can you talk about your ~good vibes~ on pooky? i'm lowkey feeling nervous due to the push for spares

answer this in the meantime?

In post 196, Elements wrote:you've been all "we must fight" "fighting is the only path" and now you're asking about spares

In post 197, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Yes

In post 198, Elements wrote:so your tune has changed....

In post 199, CantHateAPuppy wrote:No

Lmfao

In post 240, Tanner wrote:

In post 226, Tanner wrote:

In post 139, CantHateAPuppy wrote:(ok, ok, besides tanner from earlier i also kind of like pooky, i just think there are some good vibes there. i want to like hectic more than i actually do rn tbh)

can you talk about your ~good vibes~ on pooky? i'm lowkey feeling nervous due to the push for spares

answer this in the meantime?

oh yeah, right sorry (<_<)

i went through to iso pooky and didn't find as much as i wanted tbh. ithink the vibes come through more during liveposting? in the context of the thread? i did like these posts:



i just kind of like that "trust in the heart of the cards" "i assert i am obvtown" vibe. maybe that's kind of weak? i like that he's voting to self-heal (im doing that too, i think it's the obvious play but scum wouldn't be bold enough to do) but i guess i also want to see if he has anyone he wants to spare now that i think about it

Puppy I have a list of people who I think are pure and brilliant but I am afraid to share this list for the bad people with evil intentions will surely try to murder us and stop our just quest

I have a brilliant plan to try to win the game

I have not thought this through in any way so it could be terrible

each day only one contestant "nominates" themselves to be judged by the collective town - placing his fate in the hands of his peers.

He shall write a long post detailing why he is worthy of being spared and healed.

Then all players will vote on this person's candidacy - either heal or hurt and the day will end with his healing or hurting.

so only those of us with the most pure of hearts should try this

hm. how would we agree on who gets nominated?

well one way would be to do first come first serve and hope the scum are too cowardly to volunteer themselves.

another way would be to do a casting call in the first 24 hours, all who volunteer themselves are then "healed" by their supporters. whoever has the most heals in the next 24 hours will become the nominee and face the ULTIMATE TEST by the entire town.