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I just really want a Pickaxe or Chemist lynch.

I'll ask him about DoLittle and SS too. If he is scum, we want those juicy associations.

i mean we deff sweat math for reads outside of the 2 third party groups and any refusal to do so is either a scumclaim or just terrible play beyond terrible play and either way Math is a solid flip.

This just in from MORNING TWEET (The more sane head of the hydra):

Titus/Mastina/Nero/Norwe/A50/superbowl are all confirmed NOT ARMY, so no elimination in that pool for MT

MT also likes Mathblade and believes Plus is NOT scum

Sxum are in shellyc, GoldenParadox, Tayl0r Swift, DiamondSentinel, Bell, DrDoLittle, jjh927, Something_Smart, Chemist1422

TM also hard TRs Nero and TRs mastina, so that makes him inclined to trust all 3 of you

Can you ask MT about how we should handle the Math situation?

jesus Titus. Just lynch your bro. Sure it might be awkward come thanksgiving but getting rid of scum/bad toxic town is a good day's work.

@Titus: I am NOT asking either of the MM heads anything, nor am I listening to them. One is playing his own gamem and the other isn't reading shit! MT thinks you're a hood that is NOT confirmed to each other and ARE claiming to be TOWN. That's how GOOD their reading ability is.

This is why Drunk!Titus is a thing.

They're not even convening in each other in the hydra account, as Mage says you're 3P and MT wonders where that came from, and instead of asking the hydra PT they are asking in the MASONS PT

Seriously, why do people join games they do not intend to play or even read??

Let's see if the deaths help us out.

hopefully, this starts on tie tonight. i'll be back in a few hours.

I'll be hit or miss if it starts on time.

Good luck. It's been fun.

stop sleeping and start the day Schaad.

I'll likely be asleep.

I am getting sweepy. Very sleepy.

night totus

Night Nero. It's been fun.

In post 182, Almost50 wrote:I am of the opinion Scum will NOT shoot Plus tonight anyway. He claimed ODD NIGHT, so he has no action tonight.

good call!

hey norway. Just wanted to let you know that you are here mostly b/c of me. You are town and even though we aren't town we are deff not scum or a threat to the town. pls don't betray us or out the aspects of our wincon b/c if scum know that our wincon involves being nked then they'll not nk us.

In post 104, Almost50 wrote:By play, Swift is the Towniest (Don't ask. You're entitled to your own reads, and I could be wrong)

Admittedly, not a read I feel like fighting you on, given that I see the townness in the slot, the main suspicion is from the bad interactions particularly around Gamma, but I see the town play there aside from that.

In post 104, Almost50 wrote:S_S & Bell come next. I have nothing specific to point out. They just don't seem scummy to me. AGAIN, I could be misreading them.

I agree that both slots look town by play, albeit in the case of Something_Smart, mostly due to his predecessor's contributions more than his own.

In post 104, Almost50 wrote:I don't remember why we cleared TGP (and frankly don't care at this time)

Basically, aside from one or two blights in his iso, his contributions all of D1 were solid and reasonably thought out with reasonable thoughts that seemed sincere and genuine with good analysis made and what appeared to be good attempts to scumhunt.

However, D2 was...not good from him, so he does lose that towncred from me.

In post 104, Almost50 wrote:shelly: I am more adamant this is SCUM now than I ever was before. Her pushes on 3P feel most unnatural. The clear on her in NOT a clear AT ALL, yet she tried to use THAT to get into this hood. I feel it in my bones that this is SCUM, and will probably nuke that if you don't object.

This read I admit I don't have any solid reason to object or counter you--other than saying that my gut strongly says the opposite, that shellyc's contributions look town and solid save for one point of hearsay:
Allegedly, shellyc is apparently a spamposter who tops the charts in postcount normally, yet she hasn't even remotely done so this game. If the meta that I was told about her being a spamposter topping the postcount charts is accurate (like I said, this is hearsay, I haven't looked into it to verify or disprove the claim), then her lack of posting would be a logical reason for her to be scum.

So in this case: logically, rationally, there might be a reason to agree, but by my gut, she's strongly a townread.

In post 104, Almost50 wrote:The trio of Pickaxe/Chemist/DS have 2-3 scum in them/ I am not buying they ALL have such GREAT reads they were all on Gamma and all off April. DS ended up the lone voter of S_S for "fluffy reasoning at best", while the other two were not voting at all (I think that was to confirm the "towncred" they got from the Gamma bus, and especially so for Chemist who was late to hop on Gamma)

In this group, Pickaxe Pete is similar to TheGoldenParadox to me, in having looked town for reasonable reasons. I do want to trust Titus's read on DiamondSentinel here, though, because I feel like Titus is right, there.

Given four scum in the game and DDL very very obviously being one (I saw the daystart message), that'd leave three scum to find.
If the logical reason + your gut is right on shellyc, that'd leave two scum to find.
Going from your list of candidates, {Mathblade, Chemist, Pickaxe Pete, DiamondSentinel}, given my sentiments above I'd go, most scum to least scum, Misty(Chemist) > Mathblade Pickaxe Pete > DiamondSentinel.

In post 105, Almost50 wrote:2- I also told you mod reassured me TWICE that the MD should detect your action. I asked in two different ways, and the second time was "If we were 3 Goons in my faction and we had a factional RB/Busdrive..." and he still said he would likely attribute the action to one individual

Conclusion: You either ASSUMED that's how it works, or you were too confident in your SR on FL you actually "lied" to me about this specific detail.

No, we didn't lie.

Our neighborize of you did not show up to a motion detector.
We didn't assume that it did and we didn't lie that it did.
It 100% did not.

You can confirm this with schadd_ in postgame that we were not wrong in saying this. That we were in fact telling the truth. That Titus having selected you as a neighborize does count as her visiting you to an action investigator.

Meaning that either,
1: April was town lying about his result in spite of truthfully saying what his role was, or,
2: Titus was visited by a player that did not claim responsibility for this visit D2.
Those are the only options, aside from 3: mod error with schadd_ either fucking up by showing something he shouldn't have or answering us incorrectly.

Because I swear to god we weren't assuming. schadd_ literally told us, completely and unambiguously, that our neighborize would NOT show up to an action investigation of any kind, including not showing up to a motion detector. There's no room for misinterpreting that. There's no room for error on our part, there's no room for mistaken interpretation, no room for any sort of error in how we read it.

And no, we didn't lie about it. I'd never lie about a role result to fake a guilty on someone because that runs contrary to my fundamental mafia principles, and nobody could ever convince me, ever, to compromise those principles. (Trust me, people have tried to get me to go along with a lie. I did not.)

So again.
Mod error in resolution/answer.
FL lying about a result while realclaiming the role.
Or an unclaimed role visiting Titus.

Those are literally the only possibilities.

That said, yes, I was overconfident that this was a guilty when apparently it wasn't. But it wasn't fake and it wasn't erroneous because schadd_ really did tell us that our neighborize cannot show up to action investigations including not showing up to a motion detector. That wasn't a lie and there's no alternative interpretation to his statement. (I'd quote it verbatim if not for the risk of a modkill, but in postgame when you see the statement, you'll agree; there's zero ambiguity in it. It is very explicit.)

okkams just says that scum (or an unclaimed town) visited her.

In post 110, Almost50 wrote:O was actually going to ask you to provide the colour CODE after you had explained the "PM" thing just to see the colour you're referring to. My PM had

a link

to our PT in the body, and not a single letter more.

Same, but the PT has the colors in it and it's habit and much easier to say "role PMs" than type out repeatedly, "the first post of our PT that was linked as our role PM".
(Basically, our role PM was just, "MBOS 10: WELCOME TO THE HENRY P. JURGENSSEN SOCIETY!", with a link to the PT where our roles were described, but I am using 'role pm' here as shorthand for the roles in the pt linked from the role pm, for the sake of simplicity even though the latter term is more technically accurate.)