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Archer
Saber
Shielder,Lancer,Rider,Ruler,Avenger,Foreigner
Caster,Beast
Berserker
Assassin
Alter Ego

VOTE: Saber

That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

Hello, I'm here.

I am claiming Miller. You know what helps to sniff out a false Miller? Becoming the master!

Well, that was the quickest scumread I've ever gotten.

That's uncalled for!

In post 211, Servant Saber wrote:

In post 197, Servant Berserker wrote:Foreigner, would you be interested in voting me to be master?

Why do you want to be master? I haven't seen it, and it would help me read you.

I provide both day and night benefit. I play mostly PoE, so I’d upgrade correctly and provide a central voice who is good at working with a variety of people

In post 212, Servant Saber wrote:

In post 202, Servant Berserker wrote:I agree that caster seems town. Don’t want them as master though.

I am uncertain on Caster and I disagree with their conclusions. Can you explain why they're town?

I think Caster, while misguided, genuinely believes that they found scum in me and archer. I liked their self doubt with regards to their stances, and I believe scum would not be as misinformed about how this whole setup works through virtue of having their team talk about it. I don’t think someone who is not willing to put in the work to optimize use is a smart choice to lead, and I also think they will take the obvious choice of promoting Assassin.

In post 220, Servant Lancer wrote:

In post 81, Servant Berserker wrote:Did you read the flipped roles from the first game, caster?

Pedit-
I have agreed with most of Egos posting.

Berserker, were you going somewhere with this question?

Just that caster seemed very uninformed in general, if I’m remembering correctly it was after some confusion about how the master role worked.

In post 227, Servant Alter Ego wrote:That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

3rd tier=Null

In post 232, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 227, Servant Alter Ego wrote:That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

3rd tier=Null

I see. So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct? That's a very distribution. Why am I so scummy to you? Why are Assassin and Berserker scum, too?

Moon Cancer just looks to be keeping options open there.
What tiers do you have for those names, Moon Cancer?

Moon Cancer might be buddying me given his two SRs are people up for contention for master besides me.

Before I forget

VOTE: Saber

In post 233, Servant Alter Ego wrote:So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct?

On my phone, it looks like the Caster line is just an extension of the nulls. Am I incorrect?

In post 236, Servant Saber wrote:

In post 233, Servant Alter Ego wrote:So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct?

On my phone, it looks like the Caster line is just an extension of the nulls. Am I incorrect?

No, it's a different line.

In post 233, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 232, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 227, Servant Alter Ego wrote:That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

3rd tier=Null

I see. So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct? That's a very

surprising

distribution. Why am I so scummy to you? Why are Assassin and Berserker scum, too?

Alter Ego thinks too much and their reads have too much .

In post 189, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 187, Servant Caster wrote:a big red flag for me is that neither of them reacted to the scum-read at all.

I tend to ignore people announcing scumreads on me with no justification. I'm not sure this is a particularly reliable way of reading people.

In post 233, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 232, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 227, Servant Alter Ego wrote:That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

3rd tier=Null

I see. So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct? That's a very

surprising

distribution. Why am I so scummy to you? Why are Assassin and Berserker scum, too?

I did give a justification.

Assassin is scum trying to become master by any means possible.

In post 67, Servant Berserker wrote:That is the first post caster has made that I agree with. Town master is the first priority, but we aren’t up a creek without a paddle if it hits scum.

This post is terrible.

In post 238, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Alter Ego thinks too much and their reads have too much uncertainity.

What do you mean I "think too much"? Where do you see me as having "uncertainty"?

Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 189, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 187, Servant Caster wrote:a big red flag for me is that neither of them reacted to the scum-read at all.

I tend to ignore people announcing scumreads on me with no justification. I'm not sure this is a particularly reliable way of reading people.

In post 233, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 232, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 227, Servant Alter Ego wrote:That is certainly an arrangement of names. Pray tell, why does Rider's 2 posts put them in your 3rd tier?

3rd tier=Null

I see. So you have 5 scumreads and 2 townreads so far, is that correct? That's a very

surprising

distribution. Why am I so scummy to you? Why are Assassin and Berserker scum, too?

I did

not

give a justification.

Oh, I see, haha. Very clever of you. I didn't want to make myself the focal point of discussion but honestly I'm absolutely dumbfounded by your entire list given that you had me and most of my townreads as scum, and I saw very little sense in any of it. I engaged you to try to get you to explain your reads given you've contributed nothing else. I'm not liking the explanations you're giving.

Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Assassin is scum trying to become master by any means possible.

Why's assassin scum for trying to become master, but you're okay with voting Saber, who has taken a similar approach?

Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 67, Servant Berserker wrote:That is the first post caster has made that I agree with. Town master is the first priority, but we aren’t up a creek without a paddle if it hits scum.

This post is terrible.

Why's it "terrible"? What's so scummy about that, considering several people expressed the same sentiment?

In post 231, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 211, Servant Saber wrote:

In post 197, Servant Berserker wrote:Foreigner, would you be interested in voting me to be master?

Why do you want to be master? I haven't seen it, and it would help me read you.

I provide both day and night benefit. I play mostly PoE, so I’d upgrade correctly and provide a central voice who is good at working with a variety of people

In post 212, Servant Saber wrote:

In post 202, Servant Berserker wrote:I agree that caster seems town. Don’t want them as master though.

I am uncertain on Caster and I disagree with their conclusions. Can you explain why they're town?

I think Caster, while misguided, genuinely believes that they found scum in me and archer. I liked their self doubt with regards to their stances, and I believe scum would not be as misinformed about how this whole setup works through virtue of having their team talk about it. I don’t think someone who is not willing to put in the work to optimize use is a smart choice to lead, and I also think they will take the obvious choice of promoting Assassin.

In post 220, Servant Lancer wrote:

In post 81, Servant Berserker wrote:Did you read the flipped roles from the first game, caster?

Pedit-
I have agreed with most of Egos posting.

Berserker, were you going somewhere with this question?

Just that caster seemed very uninformed in general, if I’m remembering correctly it was after some confusion about how the master role worked.

Actually I believe caster is correct in how the mafia upgrade works, which makes me somewhat worried that they actually knew that was what the role upgrade was because I read it entirely differently initially.

In post 240, Servant Lancer wrote:Actually I believe caster is correct in how the mafia upgrade works, which makes me somewhat worried that they actually knew that was what the role upgrade was because I read it entirely differently initially.

?

I am just reading what Cabd has said in his post before the game began.

Does anyone have serious objections to Saber getting the boost.

I'd like to move on.

Unless my count is off we’re still waiting on one or two to check in.

I also think we could use some of today’s extra pages to discuss an elim, rather than burn them.

In post 242, Servant Beast wrote:Does anyone have serious objections to Saber getting the boost.

I'd like to move on.

I don't see a need to rush the phase, especially when Ruler and Shielder have yet to post. I want everyone to weigh in.

I actually think my preference is more toward Berserker or Assassin, though that decision is partly motivated by personality, as I think they'd be easier to work with than Saber. (Although I do think Assassin became much townier when he started talking about his reads and not just his role mechanics)

I agree about Assassin getting better once they actually started to engage, even if I disagree with their Lancer stance.

And to lancer, who I forgot to respond to- the instance I recalled was about towns master. I will look when I have more time for the exact post.

I'm not sold on the read itself but I think town is more likely to come up with that read than scum.

In post 242, Servant Beast wrote:Does anyone have serious objections to Saber getting the boost.

I'd like to move on.

I am not super comfortable making Saber the master.

I am currently leaning Berserker personally.

In post 241, Servant Caster wrote:

In post 240, Servant Lancer wrote:Actually I believe caster is correct in how the mafia upgrade works, which makes me somewhat worried that they actually knew that was what the role upgrade was because I read it entirely differently initially.

?

I am just reading what Cabd has said in his post before the game began.

The sample role PM and OP say that mafia receive upgraded versions of their role PMs, and the sample upgrade is not the additional * gain. There was no indication to me that these were the same mechanic and not two different mechanics/bonuses to scum. Berserker implied they were viewing it the same way as me. So it’s a bit strange that you would read it so differently.

Assassin’s read on me is trash and I’m fairly sure is designed to discredit me as someone who was being fairly widely townread.

I’m probably most comfortable with berserker being selected at this point.