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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:14 am
by Dorsey
Culture difference/language barrier - I'm fine with that. Exploitation of such is fair in mafia I assume.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:17 am
by Noraa
Doesn't make sense for town to vote me over you if they think the SR on them is bad. For me, it reminds me of how as scum I like to poke and prod around to see where town's weak spots are. I hate to use this other reason but oh well. The flailing came a bit early. I feel bad for saying that as someone who has literally been tunneled to hell and back for reasons like this but I do think it still applies to some extent here.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:18 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I think they’re hammered.
I’ll reserve any judgement made, until i see the flip.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:18 am
by Deimos27
In post 223, Dorsey wrote:? But you've been beaten? Or won, depending on your alignment. The wagon goes through with 5 votes regardless of any unvoting.
I did not realise it reached 5 votes but if so we will find out soon enough
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:20 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 216, Noraa wrote: In post 210, Deimos27 wrote:I would greatly appreciate not hammering before Kop has more than literally 2 posts and A50 has to produce actual game-related content
UNVOTE:
There in spirit
Noraa, were you aware that you placed the hammer vote?
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:23 am
by Dorsey
A50+, Deimos+, Kop+, Noraa++, Tamora - my guess
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:23 am
by Deimos27
In post 226, Noraa wrote:
Doesn't make sense for town to vote me over you if they think the SR on them is bad. For me, it reminds me of how as scum I like to poke and prod around to see where town's weak spots are. I hate to use this other reason but oh well. The flailing came a bit early. I feel bad for saying that as someone who has literally been tunneled to hell and back for reasons like this but I do think it still applies to some extent here.
Ok sure, though they explained that they voted you because you already had a vote. That seems reasonable to me.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:24 am
by NorwegianboyEE
What?
I don’t understand what any of this means.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:24 am
by Noraa
Oh geez that was hammer? I love hammering but I was not aware of this one, no.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:24 am
by Deimos27
... When did the meta on this site become D1 flashwagon elims
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:25 am
by Deimos27
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:25 am
by Dorsey
Ask Kop
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:27 am
by Noraa
In post 231, Deimos27 wrote:Ok sure, though they explained that they voted you because you already had a vote. That seems reasonable to me.
Why is that reasonable? I they took issue with the SR on them, they should be voting the person they think is most likely to be scum (the pusher which now I'm confused since you dont think Dorsey is scum? since apparently the push is bad) as opposed to whoever is more likely to be elimmed. The day is still early and it doesn't make sense to already be thinking about that.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:29 am
by Noraa
A while ago but I didn't mean to hammer. I'm not really used to 5 to hammer on day so I thought we were far from hammering.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:31 am
by Deimos27
In post 237, Noraa wrote: In post 231, Deimos27 wrote:Ok sure, though they explained that they voted you because you already had a vote. That seems reasonable to me.
Why is that reasonable? I they took issue with the SR on them, they should be voting the person they think is most likely to be scum (the pusher which now I'm confused since you dont think Dorsey is scum? since apparently the push is bad) as opposed to whoever is more likely to be elimmed. The day is still early and it doesn't make sense to already be thinking about that.
It's not a matter of whether you agree, it's a matter of whether you think town!Dorsey is likely to use that as a consideration. They seem to believe that the pressure exerted by the vote is currently more valuable than the probability that the target of the vote is scum.
Maybe they think I'm only slightly +scum compared to you. It's all up to the relative weightings of those things in their mind.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:32 am
by Noraa
In post 239, Deimos27 wrote:They seem to believe that the pressure exerted by the vote is currently more valuable than the probability that the target of the vote is scum.
But that's straight up scum mentality.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:33 am
by Deimos27
In post 240, Noraa wrote: In post 239, Deimos27 wrote:They seem to believe that the pressure exerted by the vote is currently more valuable than the probability that the target of the vote is scum.
But that's straight up scum mentality.
If so then we should stop using RVS
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:34 am
by Deimos27
Lots of people believe that the information gained to town from pressure on a player is greater than the information gained from having a symbolic vote on your #1 sr
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:35 am
by Noraa
2 votes isn't pressure though and either way it doesn't really matter. Pretty sure this is just flipping scum.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:36 am
by Deimos27
I'm just saying I don't think we should have rushed to analyse Dorsey based on objective considerations. They're clearly new to the game so their mentality is likely to be flawed no matter what, and I wanted to set a baseline for it first before trying to observe deviations. I think that's how you analyse beginners.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:37 am
by Deimos27
But yeah let us wait for a flip ig
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:56 am
by Tamora's Angel
Nain is the God of Power. Some folks be scummy voting for control.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:58 am
by Tamora's Angel
Don't really do micros but Kop/A50 plus one on Dorsey wagon is where I'd go.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:05 am
by Noraa
Why Kop
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:06 am
by Noraa
He had more analysis in one post here than he did in his whole iso in some other game where he wasn't town.