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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:49 pm
by numberQ
So do we treat E-2 like E-1 with N_M around? Like if someone has intent to put Enchant at E-2, he should claim? I'm not saying I have that intent quite yet. Just wondering.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:49 pm
by Galron
In post 224, numberQ wrote:I can tell I'm not going to enjoy Galron's gimmick, even if I like the source material... It's not even a wild or potentially meme-worthy setup, I don't get bringing RP stuff like that into games like this.
I'm a saint, you know. I'm a living saint, and I get absolutely nothing out of it.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:50 pm
by numberQ
*if someone has intent to put Enchant at
E-1
not E-2, typo
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:50 pm
by numberQ
In post 226, Galron wrote: In post 224, numberQ wrote:I can tell I'm not going to enjoy Galron's gimmick, even if I like the source material... It's not even a wild or potentially meme-worthy setup, I don't get bringing RP stuff like that into games like this.
I'm a saint, you know. I'm a living saint, and I get absolutely nothing out of it.
Hello darkness my old friend...
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:27 pm
by Roden
In post 223, numberQ wrote: In post 200, Almost50 wrote: In post 199, numberQ wrote:(That was a joke on the same level as when I jokingly implied Gamma was VT, btw)
Are you saying the rest of the readlist was serious? because I assumed it was all upside down tbh. If you did mean I was a Town lean to you I would like a short explanation. I don't think i did anything alliance indicative thus far, unless you're meta-reading me. Is that it?
Partially meta. I don't really know what your scum game looks like, but you're giving me the same vibes as from NEP3. You were on side "meme game" in that one, but still, you were town and looked like this.
Otherwise it's just a vague feeling I get from your posts.
168 in particular didn't feel like scum because I don't think scum would blatantly say that instead of giving a few fake reads.
Admittedly, a somewhat weak read. Maybe you should be a couple slots lower, though still in the leantown category.
In post 220, Roden wrote: In post 180, numberQ wrote:Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:
Town:
Roden
Penguin
Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma
Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia
Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg
Scum:
numberQ
I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.
I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.
Why are you town reading Penguin?
Penguin questioning and then voting me felt genuine. Idk, I generally townread people who question me and/or scumread me, at least in the early game.
If you're vibing with it for the most part, what stands out to you as not vibe-worthy?
That's fair, I tend to do the same as well.
The only placements that stood out to me were Penguin and Meg. Penguin's posting has been fine, but nothing has stood out to me as particularly townie. And Meg hasn't felt like they've done much to get a scum lean, at least to me. But also Meg is a kind of player that I have to let simmer before I can read them, their town and scum metas are distinct but not immediately obvious.
Like I said earlier though I do mostly vibe with your list, if I were to write one out now it would be almost identical to yours. Which is actually kind of rare for me to have a similar reads list to someone else on Day 1.
In post 224, numberQ wrote:I can tell I'm not going to enjoy Galron's gimmick, even if I like the source material... It's not even a wild or potentially meme-worthy setup, I don't get bringing RP stuff like that into games like this.
Yeahhhh I'm feeling the same at this point.
In post 225, numberQ wrote:So do we treat E-2 like E-1 with N_M around? Like if someone has intent to put Enchant at E-2, he should claim? I'm not saying I have that intent quite yet. Just wondering.
It's a weird spot for me because I want to say yes, that should be enough for someone to claim. But also I don't like that with NM around it basically let's scum get claims out of townies sooner.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:30 pm
by Roden
In post 222, Galron wrote: In post 220, Roden wrote: In post 180, numberQ wrote:Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:
Town:
Roden
Penguin
Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma
Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia
Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg
Scum:
numberQ
I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.
I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.
Why are you town reading Penguin?
If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.
VOTE: roden
VOTE: Galron
Ok, let's figure each other out. Are these serious votes? If so, why do you scum read me?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:21 pm
by Egix96
Eh, I feel like his reaction to being wagoned was slightly more towny than not. I'm curious as to why he leans scum on me though, and also Roden implicitly agreeing.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:37 pm
by Roden
In post 173, Roden wrote: In post 170, MegAzumarill wrote: In post 166, Egix96 wrote: In post 99, redtea wrote: In post 86, numberQ wrote: In post 82, redtea wrote:I'm gonna unvote before this turns into a Thing
UNVOTE:
Considering no other things have happened or are happening, I say thing it up. Why is your vote better off the wagon than on it?
I'm trying to be a
little
more selective in my thinging
Come on, that had to have been deliberate.
VOTE: redtea
In post 133, Enchant wrote: In post 132, Roden wrote: In post 130, Enchant wrote:
I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.
Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?
Why not?
Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.
Why i am not sleeping?
Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.
This is also terrible.
Side note: Roden is prob town for actually having common sense around the whole quickhammer situation, and also Azumarill to a lesser extent.
TMI that me and Roden are town?
Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.
Egix, do you have a read on Gamma?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:40 pm
by Enchant
In post 219, Roden wrote:That's E-2/E-NM btw.
What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?
All scum voting me, 100%
Atleast i don't see phrase "WELL NUMBERQ IS PROB SCUM AND WAGONED LET'S WAGON ENCHANT INSTEAD BECAUSE OPENWULF"
Blatant counter wagon, so mafia are Kyouko+Gamma+NumberQ.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:43 pm
by Enchant
Also i don't mind getting WAGONED, but getting wagoned by mafia which i had opportunity to throw to death making me furious.
Fuck basic decency.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:05 am
by Egix96
Ah sry, missed that.
In post 173, Roden wrote:Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.
Egix, do you have a read on Gamma?
The thing is that, if Gamma were scum then how the heck did they almost get yeeted within the first five pages? That was my line of reasoning for thinking who looked good/bad out of the whole situation.
But yeah, apart from agreeing with Gamma's reads on red/enchant, there's nothing else posting-wise I can discern alignment from yet.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:51 am
by numberQ
In post 231, Egix96 wrote:
Eh, I feel like his reaction to being wagoned was slightly more towny than not. I'm curious as to why he leans scum on me though, and also Roden implicitly agreeing.
My read on you was pretty much entirely based on your
166. I'm not seeing the throughline of logic or emotion for you to land on a vote for redtea or TRs for Roden/Meg. Which to me smells like scum trying to fake reads.
More recently, I don't like
235. Gamma ultimately
wasn't
yeeted, which I think is much more telling than
almost
getting yeeted. (not you, Almost
)
Egix, do you have any opinions on Enchant getting pissed off by his wagon? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:31 am
by Almost50
You know, of late I've been like... but.. so.. you feel?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:30 am
by mozamis
yes.
Just be easier to get rid of NM.
Not sure if i am voting for him or not but I should be.
VOTE: NOT MAFIA
catching up.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:52 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 222, Galron wrote: In post 220, Roden wrote: In post 180, numberQ wrote:Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:
Town:
Roden
Penguin
Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma
Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia
Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg
Scum:
numberQ
I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.
I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.
Why are you town reading Penguin?
If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.
VOTE: roden
What are you saying?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Galron
Yeah this gimmick is actively inhibiting to actually getting content out of you. You die now.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:58 am
by Not_Mafia
VOTE: mozamis
This vote is serious^tm, not even a vague attempt at scumhunting
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:59 am
by MegAzumarill
In post 240, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Galron
Yeah this gimmick is actively inhibiting to actually getting content out of you. You die now.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Imagine trying to use someones gimmick to push them instead of scumhunting
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:37 pm
by redtea
In post 127, Roden wrote:
An unannounced E-1 is always anti-town, but doing it after everyone was warned of a potential NM quick hammer is even worse. Plus I just don't like how redtea is trying to turn their misunderstanding around onto me.
If you're scum then ok, but I don't see how any townie is supposed to know that without a N0 guilty, nothing has happened yet to reasonably say anyone should get hammered.
Didn't I unvote you?
I totally forgot NM was in this game in between posts, and there were no warnings made between them. But that's on me for not checking.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:37 pm
by redtea
In post 149, Roden wrote:You say we're oppotunistic for voting you. By those same standards, do you not consider your own votes and pushes opportunistic?
In post 50, numberQ wrote:Well it says "Mafia Scum" under Roden's username so I think you're onto something.
VOTE: Roden
In post 94, numberQ wrote:VOTE: Gamma
He said there was nothing important to discuss so let's make something to discuss.
This is the worst take s2g
In post 192, mozamis wrote:Leaning town on Enchant.
His play was bad for town but...bit wifomy but day one, it seems too ballsy for most scum.
Problem is, he fooled me before so this is a VERY LIGHT town read.
imo scum Enchant would do it
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:37 pm
by redtea
In post 140, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:86 feels like stalling, 94 in hindsight after seeing 118 strikes me as motivated by trying to get a claim out of Gamma for free, and then 118 itself is actually just fishing after he didnt get what he was hoping for.
Strike fast?
weird pivot
idk if this is what numberQ was getting at or what
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:39 pm
by redtea
uh legit though, I counted and isn't gamma supposed to be dead?
@mod can you recount the votes again? Pretty sure gamma was hammered
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:40 pm
by redtea
In post 242, MegAzumarill wrote: In post 240, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Galron
Yeah this gimmick is actively inhibiting to actually getting content out of you. You die now.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Imagine trying to use someones gimmick to push them instead of scumhunting
policy limming unhelpful slots on d1 is pro-town tbh
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:42 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 242, MegAzumarill wrote: In post 240, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Galron
Yeah this gimmick is actively inhibiting to actually getting content out of you. You die now.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Imagine trying to use someones gimmick to push them instead of scumhunting
I straight up said I felt the gimmick was a play to avoid giving real content
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:45 pm
by redtea
In post 225, numberQ wrote:So do we treat [E-1 like a hammer] with N_M around? Like if someone has intent to put Enchant at [E-1], he should claim? I'm not saying I have that intent quite yet. Just wondering.
Always. Roden has a good point about the fact it forces claims out early, but NM can and will hammer unless he has stated otherwise on a particular slot.