CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Bell: It seems less black and white to me than it does entirely made up out of whole cloth, but I admit I could be missing something since it's aimed in my direction and I know my own actions and motivations as a rule

But the not-answering-questions part is ENTIRELY gibberish

PEDIT: Noraa your first post almost every damn game since Newbie 2028 is to push me as scum LOL what do you expect, if youre predictable I'm gonna predict

[Greeting]

Greeting’s perspective bothers me. It seems black and white.

Elaborate?

[The Three Bears]

Something to keep in mind though is that I tend to like disagreeing with majority's reads/get tunneled more easily when people dont agree. im not sure if that is happening here but Mush's posts have just been setting off alarm bells all over the place and just the fact that no one agreed, at least at first, left me feeling even worse about their alignment.

I'm at school right now and have an assignment I need to do rn in class but I'll be back later today.

-noraa

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Also god that was a lot of posts I missed the second part sorry Bell

I mostly am having a laugh because it literally just takes a quick scan of my ISO to prove Greeting totally wrong abt my play? I don't necessarily scumread it because it's almost TSTBS you know, the just blatant make shit up and see if anyone piles on, but it DEFINITELY is hilarious

[Cephrir]

Greeting, buddy, I think you are the only one other than Ircher who doesn't get the first two parts by now, its not like I've been hiding shit this game, I gave up that conniving scheming playstyle after the fiasco of Mtn Dew Mafia. I am an open book come and read me

As for why, I'm gonna save it till you decide to accept what the entire rest of the player list has, purely because it amuses me to watch you get held up on this small simple thing

Okay, well, if you want to be read by whatever you post solely then I won't be questioning you. It's not like I can force you to respond either.

I'll leave judging what's a small simple thing to myself, and it would be a small simple thing if it wasn't part of a chain of small simple things that form a pattern.

What is your read on Mush?

While catching up with the thread their behavior struck me quite strongly with the amount of fluff they're posting. They seem to be masking it with an aggressive and trollish posting style. None of their votes seem serious, none of the things they post seem serious.

They latch to random players for what seems to me no valid reason. And yet that doesn't stop them from latching on to

Cephrir

for doing the same thing (80).

They refuse to answer to questions themselves. And yet that doesn't stop them from questioning

Dwlee99

(67).

They're deliberately making unclear statements for reasons unknown, and I don't see how any of them aid the town cause (54 among most of their posts actually).

I think that creating unnecessary confusion is a scum tell to be fair.

VOTE: MUSHSHAGANA

X

Quick skim up and only looking for my name. I am scum read after posting exactly one post. Quite an overreaction :/

Mush is scum for none of the reasons they said. I just hate the tone of every single post they've posted. It really doesn't feel like the town Mush I know. I get that it's really been a while but I don't feel like people change this much. I might do some meta to check that, we'll see. Town Mush to me is very much passionate about the game but Mush is being too passionate in a way that makes me want to actively discredit them here. It's hard to explain but essentially it feels exaggerated and it's the way to make yourself seem less "threatening". It sort of makes it so that when people try to scum read you, they question if you genuinely believe something and it gives them that little pause. I'm in a survivor mindset at the moment but it's the idea that mush is subconsciously (or purposefully) actively trying to seem less threatening. It just makes people not want to vote you.

I don't know how to explain it right now. It's purely tonal and I don't think my explanation does it any justice.

-noraa

X

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mush not scum so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ceph no stealing my gimmickkkk

-rhea

[Save The Dragons]

greeting is still town tho

[Bell]

Greeting are you an alt? You actually don’t feel like one, which is new for me.

Anyway, what I mean by RVS is that we pretty much only have subjective data to work with, with no flips or anything else. People immediately started dropping opinions and the pace is good IMO, but it’s still subjective stuff.

Eh, I don’t wanna relate to you too early game mush since it can be faked by the incredulousness of your response is towninteresting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

greeting is still town tho

Not wholy sure I'm comfortable enough making this confident but I am not looking to kill greeting today, no

[Greeting]

Greeting are you an alt? You actually don’t feel like one, which is new for me.

Anyway, what I mean by RVS is that we pretty much only have subjective data to work with, with no flips or anything else. People immediately started dropping opinions and the pace is good IMO, but it’s still subjective stuff.

Eh, I don’t wanna relate to you too early game mush since it can be faked by the incredulousness of your response is towninteresting.

No, I'm not an alt.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Ircher ?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh yeah like I said this isn't a push back, Greeting can be town for now, it's just incredibly funny the absurdity of that push. Like you said not one true statement buddy what are you DOING are you ok

PEDIT: Shit my expectations are nothing Bell LOL I totally changed my entire playstyle this game after last game I played was a trash fire, AND there's a different person up front steering this ship, total playstyle/typing style shifts are gonna get me scumreads, you're good, it isnt just "grr whoever scumreads me is bad" over here

[Dwlee99]

Actually I want a vote count
UNVOTE:

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah, votecount good -- and on that note! LLD I wanna doublecheck on Ceph, cause I reread the ISO and it doesn't smell as bad as I remembered, and its not just effortposting either. Feels legit. Thoughts?

[Greeting]

Greeting’s perspective bothers me. It seems black and white.

Elaborate?

@

Bell

?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ircher (5) - Save the Dragons, NorwegianboyEE, MegAzumarill, Galron, Lady Lambdadelta
Cephrir (2) - MUSHSHAGANA, Bell
Bell (2) - Cephrir, Arcade Pals
Mastina (2) - Tet, The Three Bears
MUSHSHAGANA (2) - Ircher, Greeting
The Three Bears (1) - Princess Elodie
Greeting (1) - Roden
Roden (1) - Dwlee99

Not voting (5) - Malakittens, Mastina, tictac, Toogeloo, T3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, votecount good -- and on that note! LLD I wanna doublecheck on Ceph, cause I reread the ISO and it doesn't smell as bad as I remembered, and its not just effortposting either. Feels legit. Thoughts?

We will see what Ceph does. For now I am comfortable giving them the space to do the thinga I described and hunt. Hard to do that with a flashlight in your eyes.

[Bell]

Greeting’s perspective bothers me. It seems black and white.

Elaborate?

@

Bell

?

You're new, which may or may not explain your total focus on one person. Anyway, you have scum tells. You apply scum tells to Mush's posts. ????
profit.
Is how it feels to me.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Makes sense LLD yeah. Cool

I'll hop on Ircher then VOTE: Ircher, esp since that VC doesn't look too far off and it's 11 to exile to the Jukebox islands to suffer through the grind for the worst costume in the game

[MegAzumarill]

Bell, You are saying you dislike someone finding scumtells and thinking they come from scum?

[The Three Bears]

No I just feel like Mush doesn't make a lot of these posts as town. They aren't someone that looks to provoke other people. Like I know they are passionate, they get frustrated. But so many posts just feel unnecessary. I can't get over that. I also don't get the whole "scum noraa pounces on me as scum first post" thing. Like that's just ... not true? Scum me is so terrified of Mush that I would literally just suck up to Mush or not engage them. That's literally exactly what I did in my last scum game with them which was actually kind of recent. I totally forgot about that. Like I could understand thinking oh scum noraa would discredit me. Yes, I would, if Mush disagreed with me on something that I thought mattered a lot. But right of the bat just being like Noraa scumreads me = scum Noraa is not a conclusion that can be logically jumped to no matter how you look at it.

-bearbear

[Bell]

Bell, You are saying you dislike someone finding scumtells and thinking they come from scum?

Yup. Cause it's more complicated than that.

[The Three Bears]

Also anyone who genuinely thinks that a couple posts of argument with Mush just suddenly makes them change their opinion ..... um okay then. Like have you ever played with Mush before? Mush is pretty firm to their ground. They don't make pushes they don't believe in and if they do, it would be stated.

-noraaa

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Maybe I'm misremembering somehow but I stg you said this exact same thing "Oh no MUSH doesnt look town to me" out of the gate in Mtn Dew. Let me check that my damn memory gonna keep getting me in trouble at least Im not staking anything on it anymore LOL