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In post 219, Scorpious wrote:

In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 155, HockeyFan wrote:tbh this entire interaction doesnt seem AI at all

Am I really the only one that finds this bad?

Stephan had a list of scumreads for ??? reason. DW was pissed b/c

he

]was on it and it was unexplained. It's content. Deciphering wich alignment the content comes from can be tricky but just throwing your hands up and saying that it was meaningless is dumb


and scummy

Calling it scummy is a bit of a stretch I dont think DW was pissed I think he genuinely was curious. Also the fantastic presentation was probably jarring. I’m honored to have been included.

I don’t think anyone should be taking anything AI out of that entire exchange based on the ridiculousness of it all.
Personally. That slot is one of my favorites ever. Props to whoever is behind it.

My bad DW

Post 188 also seems to be spot-on on . Repping into a game to post a completely random, unsubstantiated suspicion list (71) and then get into a heated argument with the top "culprit" just doesn't make sense as town play at all. Is this some kind of past-game grudge that I don't know of? 82 seems to be suggesting that, but then, in 156 claims they know nothing of it.

In post 82, Stephen A Smith wrote:You not about to stand there pretending you have the short term memory of a goldfish on me are you?

The pressure is seemingly putting on seems completely out of place to me.

As for their later posts, the rebuffs to their obviously very disruptive play seem to be overly aggressive, as in 192 or 196. Sure, they've repped in a short while ago, but why would it even matter when almost all they've literally posted is unnecessary banter.

VOTE: Stephen A Smith until they convince me they're town.

In post 156, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 155, HockeyFan wrote:maybe stephen town for continuing to persits 1 thing instead of just letting it go(cuz it doesn't benefit him as mafia to do this).

This depends on who Stephen's main is

The playstyle reminds me of House.

And yes, I would say that spamming the crap out of the game benefits the mafia hugely and acts as a distracting force.

I've got my first soft townlean early and that is .

I liked 36 already, but I disagree with the reasoning. Nonetheless, I think it's a legit read.

Two other posts from them I like, and I agree with, are 188 and 193.

There are no red flags from me from so far.

I don't think is particularly scummy. I can actually see their posts coming from a newbie town perspective (kinda like myself). Their intents in posts 27, 155, 170 and 176 are all giving me a genuine town game-solving attitude. I have played with before, in Newbie 2078. He repped into that game, then got miseliminated for being a compromise slot/low-hanging fruit, and I honestly don't see much difference between him here and there.

I suppose this could be a cause for concern though:

In post 41, HockeyFan wrote:I probs have Dwlee as town(for now) for 16,20 and 34

I've played with in some games and I've found their playstyle to be generally quite nullish, and this game is no exception. Maybe but for that bizarre squabble with , but I don't see their participation in it as town-indicative either.

What makes you think that's a townslot?

In post 228, Greeting wrote:The playstyle reminds me of House.

The meme game is there..

In post 197, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 155, HockeyFan wrote:tbh this entire interaction doesnt seem AI at all

Am I really the only one that finds this bad?

Stephan had a list of scumreads for ??? reason. DW was pissed b/c he was on it and it was unexplained. It's content. Deciphering wich alignment the content comes from can be tricky but just throwing your hands up and saying that it was meaningless is dumb
and scummy

I get that they were both angry, but all that came out of it was "I said it" "No you didn't". This type of interaction(from both players) is not town leaning in any way

In post 207, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 40, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 31, Andante wrote:also I don't tr Hockey for realz 27,28 come from maf not town

why

this is a bad response

Damm I'm sorry I wanted to know why someone sr'd me for making a read

Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 41, HockeyFan wrote:I probs have Dwlee as town(for now) for 16,20 and 34

ridiculous read

yes I'll admit I ahve not played alot fo games with Dwlee, but thier first few posts seemed towny ish/willing to get game out of RVS(yes I dont know thier mafia range, but I still think its town)

How is 56 weird in any way lol @Stephen

In post 229, Greeting wrote:
I've played with

Dwlee99

in some games and I've found their playstyle to be generally quite nullish, and this game is no exception. Maybe but for that bizarre squabble with

Stephen A Smith

, but I don't see their participation in it as town-indicative either.

What makes you think that's a townslot?

Alright since 2 ppl haev asked me, i'll say what i found town

16 seemed like a good clarifcation question and not let Andante pick and choose what they want to see

20 is towny cuz i mainly agreed with it(and for the most part it was the first REAL vote of the game)

34- pretty similar reasoning to why i liked 16

Re: "The exchange"

I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.


For anyone that may not know the Real Stephen A Smith is famous here in the US for being a master debater on pro sports,and his style is known to rile people up. It's his schtick. Is House a sports fan? Cause even the sports references are correct. When I asked for the "lay off the weed quote" BOOM! It was there

I am a little surprised DW would care so much,and I don't think they were expecting the length of what was about to happen. But again, I'm not used to DW Omgussing like that,that seems out of character. but I think they were talking to a wall at this point,and from the looks of it I'm probably next. yay..

Side not I'm a little wary of anyone who says there are ignoring it because it's the most signifficant exchange up to this point.

Some big moves happening in the NBA. I'm gonna be busy for the rest of the day. Need three more volunteers to launch HockeyDude out a window. Let's get it done before First Take Tommorrow.

In post 228, Greeting wrote:The pressure Stephen A Smith is seemingly putting on Dwlee99 seems completely out of place to me.

As for their later posts, the rebuffs to their obviously very disruptive play seem to be overly aggressive, as in 192 or 196. Sure, they've repped in a short while ago, but why would it even matter when almost all they've literally posted is unnecessary banter.

Am I posting only unnecessary banter or am I applying pressure to get reactions and hunt for bad guys? Make up your damn mind Britney.

In post 233, Scorpious wrote:I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.

I am unsatisfied with Dwlee's answer to my question. I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually mafia here.

In post 236, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 233, Scorpious wrote:I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.

I am unsatisfied with Dwlee's answer to my question. I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually mafia here.

shtick aside, wouldn't it be easier to just say that,maybe try again and move on? See, I love this character. But I'm trying to figure out right now if your slot is about it or the game more.

And for the record. I disagree with their reasonings for you being scummy. I'm bothered by how matter of factly they said you repped into a scum slot.

In post 183, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 181, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 179, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 178, Stephen A Smith wrote:absurd

Skip Bayless says hi

The only regret I have in life is that he ran away from me before I could fire his ass like I did Max Kellerman.

HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS?!?!

WHAT??????? THE UMPIRE KNOCKED DAK OVER. DAK WAS READY. THE UMPIRE WAS LATE!!! HE DID NOT DO HIS JOB QUICKLY ENOUGH. COWBOYS SHOULD'VE HAD ONE SHOT AT THE END ZONE FROM THE 20. DOABLE!!! JUST ABSURD.

you dont QB draw with 20 seconds to go on the clock with no timeouts..

In post 192, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 188, fireisredsir wrote:your list has no weight behind it, so it has no stakes. you can move away from any of those reads at any time without consequence because you didn't put any reasoning behind them. if any of the reads end up looking like good directions to push, you can come up with reasons for them later. you even said that your list was fluid

so why is that scum indicative? you think I'm supposed to have rock solid reads on page three and not re-evaluate as the game unfolds?

It's AI because its a hedge list based on nothing,and its on like page 3 and regardless of what happens you have left every possible out for yourself.like all of them. Thats why it's scummy.

wavemode and fire are my early tr's.

Time to commute

In post 240, Scorpious wrote:

In post 192, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 188, fireisredsir wrote:your list has no weight behind it, so it has no stakes. you can move away from any of those reads at any time without consequence because you didn't put any reasoning behind them. if any of the reads end up looking like good directions to push, you can come up with reasons for them later. you even said that your list was fluid

so why is that scum indicative? you think I'm supposed to have rock solid reads on page three and not re-evaluate as the game unfolds?

It's AI because its a hedge list based on nothing,and its on like page 3 and regardless of what happens you have left every possible out for yourself.like all of them. Thats why it's scummy.

Am I supposed to have rock solid reads on page three of a game? What you call hedging I call starting a damn conversation.

In post 237, Scorpious wrote:

In post 236, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 233, Scorpious wrote:I've been in DWlee's shoes recently. Stephen would argue the color of the sky with them. Every time a legit answer is run in a circle it gives someone a chance to misrep the original answer. I don't like what he's doing. The entire character(Stephen) and more likely than not the game opening, and maybe even the entire game is already being played as some sort of gambit. its all pre meditated. Not saying thats AI at all because obviously there is no way to know what they will roll,but I feel this character would have been installed regardless of green or red.

I am unsatisfied with Dwlee's answer to my question. I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually mafia here.

shtick aside, wouldn't it be easier to just say that,maybe try again and move on? See, I love this character. But I'm trying to figure out right now if your slot is about it or the game more.

That's not how I roll and you know it. That is a fact.

In post 241, Scorpious wrote:wavemode and fire are my early tr's.

Time to commute

what about wave's 214 did u find town? Im not really sure how this post changes your read on them

In post 190, Stephen A Smith wrote:

In post 188, fireisredsir wrote:you ignored all the meat of what had happened in the game so far, which usually comes from wanting to avoid having to commit to anything or having to come up with a genuine-sounding thought on stuff. there's an obvious scum motivation for that. it's also just classic scumplay to ignore the leading wagon and get distracted by other stuff, town usually will at least comment about why they're ignoring it

Ok show me where [they] say that.

That's just the long version of "it is zero solve"

uhhh haven't forgot about yall yet, got busy with stuff, gonna aim to be back here in like 20 hours, no promises, also just skimming I don't have any significant thoughts, so mehh

In post 245, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 241, Scorpious wrote:wavemode and fire are my early tr's.

Time to commute

what about wave's 214 did u find town? Im not really sure how this post changes your read on them

I felt the answers were genuinely written. There was no defiance in any of it. My main reason for that line of question was to get more of a tone.and writing style. Not necessarily concrete information.

I like to look at things a little differently when I play. Of course there are the mechanics and rules and whatnot but so many people neglect other things like tone.

I also watch the games for changes in a writer’s punctuation. It can be a great tell, especially if it varies.
I(we) all have a solid baseline on how wave writes when they feel relaxed and not under a lot of pressure.

In post 248, Scorpious wrote:

In post 245, HockeyFan wrote:

In post 241, Scorpious wrote:wavemode and fire are my early tr's.

Time to commute

what about wave's 214 did u find town? Im not really sure how this post changes your read on them

I felt the answers were genuinely written. There was no defiance in any of it. My main reason for that line of question was to get more of a tone.and writing style. Not necessarily concrete information.

I like to look at things a little differently when I play. Of course there are the mechanics and rules and whatnot but so many people neglect other things like tone.

I also watch the games for changes in a writer’s punctuation. It can be a great tell, especially if it varies.
I(we) all have a solid baseline on how wave writes when they feel relaxed and not under a lot of pressure.

I agree they were genuinely written but how does saying stuff like "You're right" or "It doesnt" lean more towards town then it does mafia? that's the part I dont get. It's intresting to me that you TR that post based off the tone, cuz it didnt really tell me much, can u expand on this

and FTR, i do find the post towny but because of the actual content he said on the last line: "like, the actual towniest thing stephen has done this game was posting a list of scumreads and offering zero explanation for them

It's not that they HAD no explanation. The reads did have reasoning behind them. But in that moment he didn't particularly care to justify them nor care what people thought about them, even when challenged about it. I think that tends to come from town more than mafia"(this just seems town)