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Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:19 am**

But ffery

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:28 am**

So you figured out who the scum are?

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:29 am**

I certainly like to believe it, though I am not sure of the number nor if there are multiple scum

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:31 am**

Who have you got?

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:33 am**

Somewhere along the lines of Mastin Elli Sugar whatserface AJ MetalSonic and that's about it

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:40 am**

We have Mastin, Sugar and AJ as leaning town. whatserface is Titus? AJ we're cautious about scum-reading.

MS/Pitoli, though. Yeah.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:41 am**

Actually leaning town is a little strong for AJ. But, like I said, cautious about scumreading.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:41 am**

Fuck this.

I don't care if pitoli is getting replaced or whatever.

VOTE: pitoli

More likely to flip scum than Elli. Please buck up, though, Elli.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:43 am**

Metal Sonic replaced pitoli.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:45 am**

sangres, why are you cautious about scumreading aj? I don't actually have a read whatsoever on aj, yet, but I wouldn't cry if he died.

I have, in the past, tunneled so hard on AJ because I was so confident he was scum that I ignored a crumb from a cop that he got an innocent on AJ.

The other guy WAS a cop with an inno, and AJ flipped SK.

/like a baws

In other news, that leads me to believe he is pretty readable, so why are you so cautious about it?

p-edit:

oh eff

VOTE: metal sonic

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:49 am**

In post 2200, Toogeloo wrote:For our replacements, "The Walking Dead Mafia! Abridged Version."

Day 1 starts, MattP claims Hated Townie with a Lynch threshold of 2. Thor votes, then Toog (me) votes to hammer. MattP says, "lol, I was just kidding," and reads from the fake claim ensue. Toog (me) asks who Glenn is in the game, shortly after Amrun says she is and asks why, to which Toog (me) replies no reason but to break ice, which frustrates Amrun. Toog claims Maggie. Day 1 hits 30 pages in like 12 hours, during which conversation is mostly centered on pushing StupendousKey lynch and a variety of people giving reads on other players. Some people don't show up, or have very minimal posts during this time, including ActionDan, PeregrineV, Red Coyote, Ellibereth, chesskid, GuyInFreezer, OhGodMyLife, and a few others. Ellibereth claims to want to hammer, a few more votes eventually happen, Elli hammers. SK flips Oscar, Vanilla Townie.

Day 2 starts, Trust Fund (VT), chesskid (Goon), and Majiffy (Town Redirector) all dead. Titus slot does some analysis on the terribad SK lynch, but votes GuyInFreezer (who wasn't on the lynch) and also speculates on the kills, stating the Trust Fund kill was Mafia shot. OGML states the perspective slip and votes Titus' slot. No Brains states the reverse perspective slip on OGML, stating OGML doesn't take into consideration Titus might be a Vig and have knowledge. People vote Titus slot, half the hydra gets bent out of shape and is subsequently ejected from the game. Thor comes in, suddenly people don't like Thor for a variety of reasons. An Elli push starts due to Elli's bad play overall, Elli laughs at it. OGML claims Vig who killed Majiffy (for posting too much and looking scummy day 1), and pushes Titus harder. Titus claims Morales, Vanilla Townie. No Brains laughs, asks more votes on OGML. MattP claims Vig, chaos ensues. No Brains then claims Vig. MattP says his claim was fake because he knew No Brains was Vig and he was trying to protect their claim. No Brains states the specifics of their role, which turns out to not be a Vig at all, but a role that influences the walker kills at night. No Brains argues semantics that their role is a Vig, others try to correct No Brains and state how the mechanic works and other players can influence walkers as well.

You are now more or less caught up on the major events of the game. Feel free to continue reading though.

VOTE: Toogoloo

~Sugar

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:50 am**

Need more than an empty quote please

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:50 am**

oh jesus fuck. stop that.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:51 am**

In post 2260, Sugar Cain wrote:VOTE: Toogoloo

I am hugely intrigued by this, tell me more.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:53 am**

In post 2133, Desperado wrote:Dan and Elli are both scum. 1a and 1b least genuine reactions to all of the claims + their interaction on the Stup wagon. We've already got 3 townies on Elli so what are the rest of you waiting for?

Here's the thing, though.

I want to have a read on Elli. I really do. Elli's hanging there at null, and I'd love to move Elli into a category one way or the other. But when it comes to cases for why Elli is scum...I mostly am only seeing "lol elli, u so scum". As the entirety of the justification for why Elli is scum. I'm just not seeing a case against Elli. Yours is one of the best, and even then, it's not detailed.

What

in Elli's interactions with the claim wasn't genuine? I can't tell.

How

was Elli's interaction on the Stup wagon bad? (Okay.

That

one, I can probably see.

But I want

your

take on it.) For the most part, I'm not seeing it. And the fact that the Elli wagon has as much support as it does without a proper case is deeply,

deeply

concerning for me.

Whereas with Action Dan? AD, I've presented a case for. I've explained why he's a scumread, shown crystal-clear evidence. While I have hinted at the same things (his bad interactions during the claim and handling of the Stup wagon), I have given examples and elaborated. And yet, people have mostly brushed it off, going "lol, sure, but let's lynch elli first". If they even address my Action Dan case at all; most people seem to be entirely ignoring it.

And, well...that's pretty condemning itself.

When people ignore Mastin, chances are, he's right.

So I currently have Elli as being mislynch-bait (town), and again, ActionDan as my strongest scumread who the scum are trying to protect via lynching Elli.

Edit:

Well, maybe not.

Mod wrote:[L-3] Ellibereth: Thor665, Desperado, Sangres, Amrun, Toogeloo, borkjerfkin, No Brains Here

The only name on here who could be scum is bork. So, it's not a scum-driven wagon. But I don't think it's a wagon on scum, either. I think that Elli is a derp-mislynch in the making, whereas if people applied whatever their logic is on Elli to, say,

ActionDan

, they'd have a lynch on scum.

In post 2137, Desperado wrote:Do you think Pitoli-scum would privately ask the mod to be replaced?

Yes.

Especially

via QT. Scum replacing out via asking in the QT is actually one of the most common ways scum ask to be replaced. They don't bother with an in-thread explanation, because said in-thread explanation can potentially (albeit highly unlikely) compromise their slot.

In post 2177, RedCoyote wrote:Why would [TIP] tell people who you thought had PRs?

Simple: he's scum.

In post 2188, No Brains Here wrote:so when you started reading the game here:
In post 2163, TheIrishPope wrote:So many fucking hydras.
Reading up 87 beautiful pages. A tl;dr and a reason why Titus is the major wagon would be appreciated.
in a short amount of time you managed to get caught up to know what our role is and nothing else?
In post 2166, TheIrishPope wrote:You were the one who claimed horde controller or some shit right?
and why are you focused on our role rather than interested in scumhunting?
I was so excited when I saw you replacing in tip and now you are just breaking my heart.

Again, the reason is because TIP is scum. Probably scum who has access to more info than the town, that's faking ignorance.

In post 2189, Sugar Cain wrote:This is townTIP mollie

Leave him alone

You're gonna have to explain that to me, reeeeeeeeeeeeal slow. This aint the town-TIP I've come to expect in a game at all.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:55 am**

In post 2261, Desperado wrote:Need more than an empty quote please

ok, how about

Little to no scum-hunting, set-up speculation and other similar IIoA type posts, and a tell that has yet to do me wrong? (that quote is for the tell BTW)

toogers is scum

~Sugar

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:00 pm**

In post 2264, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2189, Sugar Cain wrote:This is townTIP mollie

Leave him alone
You're gonna have to explain that to me, reeeeeeeeeeeeal slow. This aint the town-TIP I've come to expect in a game at all.

What's more important is that this isn't TIPscum

He is currently going through a play-style changing phase, so he isn't really going to play like he used to though his scum game hasn't changed I don't think. ScumTIP is extremely awkward, and it is really easy to catch from his first post. I'm not getting that vibe at all this game. He's being a bit more serious, but not serious to the point of it being ScumTIP serious.

there's alot of playful bouncing off already which is something TIP can never, ever do as scum, or I've never seen him do yet as scum

~Sugar

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:01 pm**

In post 2259, Amrun wrote:sangres, why are you cautious about scumreading aj? I don't actually have a read whatsoever on aj, yet, but I wouldn't cry if he died.

I have, in the past, tunneled so hard on AJ because I was so confident he was scum that I ignored a crumb from a cop that he got an innocent on AJ.

The other guy WAS a cop with an inno, and AJ flipped SK.

Because I helped set up his mislynch in a recent game and because Nacho erroneously scum-read him in that game, making it relatively easy to do the set up. And I'm pretty terrible at scum so the guy is seriously mislynch bait. He says it's mostly in large games that he struggles.

(I read his SK game when I was meta-ing him for the above-referenced game, I think. I read a game he won as SK. It was a sweet looking win.)

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:02 pm**

I like Dan for scum though, but I want to kill Thor and Toogers first

~Sugar

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:15 pm**

Nah, must have been a different game, because I lynched the fuck out of him as SK before he even killed, in the game I mentioned.

It WAS a mini, though. Probably should meta him or some shit.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:20 pm**

In post 2268, Sugar Cain wrote:I like Dan for scum though, but I want to kill Thor and Toogers first

Sugar Cain you are so town.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:22 pm**

@ sugar cain

why are you pushing a lynch that is guaranteed to go no where? and I still don't understand how you have him as scum

and tippy does not even remotely look town when he said he was changing his playstyle I think he meant posting less fluff do you think that is what he is doing here?

@ mastin

any other thoughts other than dan? it seems to me you are being a bit stingy with your reads

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:28 pm**

In post 2271, No Brains Here wrote:@ mastin
any other thoughts other than dan? it seems to me you are being a bit stingy with your reads

Plenty?

Like, Metal Sonic (pitoli) is scum, TIP (GiF) looks like scum to me, I have a big massive whopping huge townbloc which I've commented on (positions on it have slightly changed, but the names present are the same), and I'm still sorting out the names not on it.

ActionDan may be the focus of my reads, but there's a dang-good reason; because if I'm not focusing on him, apparently, nobody else will be.

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:31 pm**

In post 2272, mastin2 wrote:ActionDan may be the focus of my reads, but there's a dang-good reason; because if I'm not focusing on him, apparently, nobody else will be.

Cuz No Brains is such a team player:

VOTE: ActionDan

Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:41 pm**

mastin, vote pitoli slot with me.

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