I hammered knowing it would get me lynched tomorrow...I've been playing poorly as it was, and tbh towards the end of D2 I was just trolling Wisdom.
Huntress was our last shot--if she had an opportunity to claim BG then it almost certainly would have been either Penguin or myself + Cop/BG combo.
Desperado msg 122:@ Bert, we name claimed but that's it, and roles don't appear to match characters.
I will claim tracker with Huntress protecting mollie N1 and Wisdom no-visiting N2.
I say we block Nat and kill Wisdom. Tayter isn't confirmed town until Nat is confirmed cop, and is much less dangerous than Wisdom. Mollie is way, way off her game and I don't think she'll be able to course correct on her own."
Desperado msg 35-36: "Yeah, one of the people on that flash wagon on me needs to die
And I don't really care if it gets me lynched TBH. I'm 95% sure there's no town vig, which means my BP power was really for the SK that just got lynched. For all intents and purposes I'm a goon now, which means you (for the universal townread) and Penguin (roleblocking) are the people who need to stay alive.
It might even be wise to just kill serra and then hope people blame me. Easy wagon to get on that's also too easy to not bus as scum, so if you two did I don't think people would be looking for scum on my wagon.
And if no one picks up on it then we just forget it and move on"
Other more non-relevant quotes from Desp:
Spoiler:
Penguin Alien msg 97:
Spoiler:
"I do suspect Desperado's hammer is going to turn out badly for him. Great for the team, in that it got rid of a PR, but without a claim... :~( Thanks, buddy."
However, Desperado msg 131:
Spoiler:
here's no way there's a BG and another protective role. We got a 1-shot BP to balance the SK and a roleblocker to balance the BG/Cop town combo. + the town-town neighborhood = no more town PRs. Our kill should be the one that maximizes our ability to stay alive and at this juncture I would argue pretty vehemently that that means Wisdom needs to die. His mollie paranoia will be gone. Block Nat, kill Wisdom, try to ML Serra or Nat. Bussing me is Option B.
Desperado msg 121
Spoiler:
@ Penguin: The best I can come up with is that the Wisdom/Mollie/Bert threesome was eating up the thread, Huntress had a decent chance of flipping scum, and the day needed to end.
I don't think it'll be very effective. I could also say that I tracked Huntress N1 which made her more likely to be scum for me as well.
I guess my point here (if there's any point to bringing it up) is that he is willing to take one for the team, and having himself bussed isn't that far-fetched. Kinda a weak argument though, but that's that
There's a MATT LYNCH screaming in my heart
reaching a fever pitch it's bringing me out the dark
go 'head and no lynch and i'll lay your shit bare
In post 1929, projectmatt wrote:I'd like to know if I'm poisoned so I can decide whether or not to spam the day with cryptic poetry.
This is a scum claim. Do you remember Shadoweh when she got poisoned? Fucking around.
Generic was pissed when he got poisoned, as I would be, as Bert would be, as ANYONE would be. Matt was fully expecting to be dead here, but needed to know before he put effort into the game so his effort would not be wasted. Town people wouldn't be wasting their effort if they were gonna die at the end of the day.
(START DRUMS)
see how i leave with every piece of you
don't underestimate the things mattscum will do
In post 1941, projectmatt wrote:You're right, I put myself into a fundamental autoloss as scum instead of savoring the chance that I wouldn't be poisioned. JYSK I would have given myself up if I was actually scum considering this would be hopeless but sadly for you, I'm not. I like you Nacho, but I'll kind of enjoy your reaction when you were wrong.
The best reason for Matt not being scum is the fact that there was a no kill and Tammy didn't see anything. That is the ABSOLUTE BEST reason for why Matt isn't scum. For Mara, we have play reasons, we have setup reasons (two scum is weak without a considerable counter, poisoning sucks as a factional kill and sucks even more if they are lovers, mara's play has been town as hell and counterclaimed what would have to be otherscum [[which would make her a prime target for CROSSKILLING]], she gave up a secret kill in order to poison SCUM, mutley, and generic who she pushed on for THREE FUCKING DAYS). And somehow no killing would be so horrible for matt in particular that it makes him town? Why? How?
There's a MATT LYNCH screaming in my heart
reaching a fever pitch
it's bringing me out the dark
The scars of no lynch remind me of shoe
they keep me thinking we almost had it all
the scars of no lynch, they leave me breathless
I can't help feeling
WE COULD HAVE HAD IT ALLLL
buddy's probably in here i think
shadoweh jumped on confirming gargant as town for ongoing games discussion
matt called kuribo town like he was afraid
and what does a scumbag do when death is imminent?
distance, distance, distance
In post 1944, Tammy wrote:I think shoe being it and being offsite makes more sense.
That actually makes a pretty fair amount of sense.
Matt was completely fucking happy to go with "oh yeah shoe is totally the last scum and we shouldn't lynch anyone else". Because it kept the suspect pool from shrinking, and it gave him a chance. He might be a ninja, he might have no killed in order to set up for a "why would I no kill?" scenario, but the point is that he never even LOOKED for scum in the remaining players because he knew if we were lynching anyone that day, we were lynching HIM.
And I'm gonna make your head burn
Think of me in the depths of your despair
Make a home down there
As mine sure won't be shared
In post 1963, projectmatt wrote:It is very rude to try to quicklynch someone after the work of art I wrote above.
His reaction to the being quicklynched is "oh, it would be rude to quicklynch me". Bert and Tammy freak out at my idea to quicklynch someone, but Matt does not? If there weren't flags already coming up looking through his posts, there should have been flags sent up here.
The scars of no lynch remind me of shoe
they keep me thinking we almost had it all
the scars of no lynch, they leave me breathless
I can't help feeling
WE COULD HAVE HAD IT ALLLLLLLLL
In post 1594, Nachomamma8 wrote:i fucking hate that matt has two of his scumreads confirmed town
and then is like "welp, i'm not doing shit"
i had two of my scumreads flip scum pretty much
so yeah i'm gonna be like "welp, i did my share"
ROLLING IN THE DEEEEEEEP
In post 1597, Nachomamma8 wrote:i earlier wanted inte-lurker because inte-lurker
now i lean towards matt
but really i just want lurkfucks to give the game what it needs to move forward
In post 2050, Tammy wrote:Here's the thing Nacho, I don't get why you're intent on a quicklynch.
If you think the game is going to end because shoe is scum, then that's one thing and I understand what you're doing. But in that case we could also no lynch and have the same effect and we wouldn't lose another town.
But, if you think he's scum, you're going to have to explain the no kill to me.
BUT WE NO LYNCHED
In post 2054, Tammy wrote:Look I feel bad enough for lynching inte yesterday when I was leaning for it to be a mislynch when I thought we should no lynch cuz shadoweh poison.
I'm not going to quicklynch Matt just because you say so.
In post 1601, projectmatt wrote:apart from trying to work out the confusion and read into other players by scumhunting whilst also boringly waiting for other people to claim so I can get even more reads and decide who I want to lynch
When Marangal claimed town lovers with qwints, that should have shook your world. But the only thing we've seen since this happened is asking Tammy if I'm scum (cool, not really useful), asking Empire who is scum (cool, again, not useful), got tempted to vote me (why?), and gave Empire your old meta. That doesn't look like
In post 1601, projectmatt wrote:..So? One of my scumreads is poisoned and I'm going to find out very soon if I am right. How do you expect me to follow up? Read through an ISO of a confirmed dying player I've already read through?
What do you think of Shadoweh's behavior since she's been poisoned?
I followed up! Most people did that.
ROLLING IN THE DEEEEEEP
In post 1625, Nachomamma8 wrote:Yeah but there should have been a point where you went "okay, they are both town" and tried to find scum in the remaining players. You didn't. That's the point.
(STOMPCLAP GO)
Throw down a matt vote in every single post (woah)
Count the scumtells to find what you look for (woah)
Turn my sorrow into deadscum Matt (woah)
You'll pay me back in kind and reap just what you sow (woah)
we could have had it all
In post 2076, Tammy wrote:And by no lynching we don't actually lose anything. We find out whether or not Shoe is last, and if he's not, whoever is left tomorrow can figure it out.
In post 2006, Nachomamma8 wrote:and we're quicklynching because scum is very likely in matt/shoe and paranoid for today is useless. there's no reason why we should have an obnoxiously long day again.
In post 2131, projectmatt wrote:I'm confused and I'll try to ge some stuff in as soon as possible, though it may not be tonight. Don't quicklynch me while I'm gone
As soon as possible my ass. Matt hasn't given anything even pseudo-useful except for "don't lynch me, can't wait to laugh at nacho. Is that gonna be ignored because no kill? Why does no kill make Matt town? No kill making matt town means no kill makes everyone except Mara/Qwints confirmed town and in that case why don't we just lynch them tomorrow?
In post 2207, projectmatt wrote:As I'm sure you guys understand, well, everyone has towntold to the extent that it really sucks to try and determine which one of you is actually mafia.
1) He understands that everyone has towntold to a large extent.
2) He doesn't understand why his slot is getting heat even though he hasn't towntold at all.
One player holding both of these beliefs doesn't make any sense.
matt has had time after time after time after time to do something for the town, but he hasn't done shit. meanwhile, mara has poisoned scum, been active as hell, COUNTERCLAIMED SCUM, and yet paranoia for her being scum because of multiball comes up now? that doesn't make sense. and maybe this is a
small
point, but I'm sitting here and I've been right in most of my pushes so far (Desperado, Shadoweh). I wasn't screaming happiness in inte lynch, and I wasn't happy with Shoe lynch. Why can I not have ONE single lynch before the paranoia breaks loose? I am usually caught caught as scum by running out of options. If you still have concerns about me, CUT OFF MY OPTIONS, don't mislynch people I call town.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
And yes, of course I'm town. And of course Generic will flip town due to a incomprehensibly retarded poisoning choice. I expect the trend to continue tonight.
Tomorrow, I want you to look at Qwints. Look, I really don't give a shit that he's a lover with somebody else but hes the only one who actually makes sense to be mafia and he's been riding on Nacho's coattails since he was made "clear:.
In post 2263, Empire wrote:I think this game might have surpassed The Game That Shall Not Be Mentioned as the single worst game of mafia I have ever played.
In post 2265, projectmatt wrote:Tomorrow, I want you to look at Qwints. Look, I really don't give a shit that he's a lover with somebody else but hes the only one who actually makes sense to be mafia and he's been riding on Nacho's coattails since he was made "clear:.
both claimed confirmed town on one another
meaning either they can't read
or they share the same alignment
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 2269, projectmatt wrote:If you, for some god forbidden reason decide that Qwints is infallibly town, I'd probably lynch Tammy but hell if I know after that.
In post 2269, projectmatt wrote:If you, for some god forbidden reason decide that Qwints is infallibly town, I'd probably lynch Tammy but hell if I know after that.
I'D PROBABLY LYNCH OBVIOUS FUCKING TOWN.
It's probably a good thing you're gone even if you are town then.
In post 2269, projectmatt wrote:If you, for some god forbidden reason decide that Qwints is infallibly town, I'd probably lynch Tammy but hell if I know after that.
qwints is confirmed town to mara and vice versa
you don't think marangal is scum
what is qwints?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
Oh Tammy's probably scum, she argued for a no lynch yesterday for NO REASON when she could have easily complied with a quick projectmatt lynch. BUT NO.
She's a fucking doctor, but yeah, let's lynch that.
