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In post 2249, Kazekirimaru wrote:Nah. Do or die. Caught SK is dead SK. I'd not expect otherwise.

when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum

In post 2250, macmollie wrote: when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum

General disagreements here.

But yeah. I just haven't gotten the feeling of groupscum Mastin. Plus I don't think she'd be the type to be leashed. I mean, that seems sort of degrading - and I take Mastin as the sort with a certain amount of pride.

I'm totally being inconsistent pronoun-wise and I thoroughly apologize. Force of habit, etc.

In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres

WTF?

In post 2252, Kazekirimaru wrote:

In post 2250, macmollie wrote: when there are a few players here who agree with the leashing of the sk philo? nah

he would play it as a vig and if caught then let himself be leashed I would think. that is how I would play it

so I find this convo interesting cos neither you nor skull are going with that mastina could possibly be grpscum

General disagreements here.

But yeah. I just haven't gotten the feeling of groupscum Mastin. Plus I don't think she'd be the type to be leashed. I mean, that seems sort of degrading - and I take Mastin as the sort with a certain amount of pride.

why would that be degrading? cos I really don't get that

In post 2254, Aegor wrote:

In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres

WTF?

quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery

In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres

what are you doing

ITS BEEN 5 MINUTES ORCI CAN YOU PLZ ANSWER THIS COS I AM CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING

In post 2256, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 2254, Aegor wrote:

In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres

WTF?

quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery

you have got to be kidding me. this is the towniest fery that I have seen on site so far if I let go of the sk paranoia

like wat do you think you should be seeing but aren't

In post 2256, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 2254, Aegor wrote:

In post 2251, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:VOTE: sangres

WTF?

quick ISO, trying to get back into the game

i havne' tbeen seeing a lot of things that I expect from fery

If you can't find town-me in this game, then you will never, ever EVER find town-me in any game.

I'm not being even slightly ambiguous.

like this is the fery I always hope to encounter in games and she did not need to put me down in order to get there. nachos' vote was uber town

*self vote

In post 2230, zMuffinMan wrote:where did that happen in this game

Most of his posting?

In post 2231, Kazekirimaru wrote:You realize your vote is still on MS, right?

Yeah?

Uhh...how does this make you town?

It doesn't. It makes me scum. (Geez, guys. I've made a better case for me being scum than everyone else combined, and I did it in less than five minutes. Slackers. ) It also makes SSK town.

In post 2232, sangres wrote:Mastin, it fails for me right there at mindset. I felt like the "I'll always investigate ffery" comment was meant to mollify me. He's talking about a ffery/nacho hydra and he's worried about

me

slipping past town?

...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.

In post 2234, Skullduggery wrote:You've also admitted that your Town-read of SSK is based on personal experience, meta, gut, and other factors that can't be quantified. You're a well-respected player and your words do carry a lot of weight, but is it reasonable for you to expect us to believe your word over the provable actions that have happened in the game -- especially when your alignment is still such a big question?

Yep! You should listen to that list of reasons I'm defending SSK. When it comes to read off of play versus read off of role...nine times out of ten, I'm going for the read off of play. If this were a cop guilty, I lynch SSK, in spite of being a solid 80-90% sure the cop was lying. It isn't--it's much, MUCH weaker. There are many possible explanations.

Why is this such an unlikely possibility?

Because the entire reason for suspecting SSK is him being at sangres N1, and pie dieing N2 as a 1x-BP Bodyguard, and people making the logical deduction that pie's BP was used N1 protecting sangres and that one of the others visiting sangres was killing. If that's not true, then there's no reason for SSK to be scum at all. Thinking he's scum-tracking-sangres is just, well, off.

In post 2235, Skullduggery wrote:Interestingly, super-thorough Mastin chose not to respond to this particular point.

Because I already did, elsewhere. No, I don't know which of the kills was performed by the serial killer. But I do know that N1, there were three targets and none of them were town-oriented kill targets. I know that N2, two of the three possible kill targets were not town-oriented kills, and the third is an unknown, which is still far, FAR more likely than not not a town-oriented kill.

In post 2237, Venmar wrote:I wish someone would answer me, whats going on because i'm a lazy pig who kind of doesn't want to read so many pages.

The town's mislynching SSK, and people are making the hilariously-bad accusation that I'm THE SK.

In post 2241, macmollie wrote:I FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT YOU ON D1 BUT D2 I COULDN'T FEEL YOUR PRESENCE IN THE GAME AT ALL AND TODAY YOU SEEM TO BE MISSING SOME BEATS!!!!

Know why here, on D3, I'm saying that the SSK wagon is filled with people who are asleep, not thinking things through? Guess why I described it that way?

'Cause that was me on D2. You couldn't feel my presence because there was no presence to be felt. As for today, there's nothing I can say that will answer. You either see me as town or don't. My beat isn't off; it's the rest of the town pushing SSK.

In post 2263, mastin2 wrote:...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.

That wasn't my point.

Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?

In post 2265, Venmar wrote:Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?

Because of two kills N2, neither of which remotely look like scumhunting.

mafiassk wrote:I noted you were more lurky than usual and so I voted you. That was pretty much why I thought you were scum. It wasn't strong and it was sorta hypocritical.

hahahaha no

keep your story straight


these are not the posts of someone who is voting someone else for lurking and these are not the posts of someone who thinks their suspicion is weak

Random thought: on day two, at least one person said that they thought Varsoon was not a mafia kill. I need to look back and see who said this and/or who agreed with it, since they have a significantly higher chance of being scum.

In post 2264, sangres wrote:

In post 2263, mastin2 wrote:...Yeah? I mean. You seem to think that this is strange. It's actually pretty damn solid play. Like, I'd have tracked AFB despite the fact that they were a realistic nightkill, just to get a better read on them. I can totally see SSK investigating you, not so much as a second thinking about you being nightkilled.

That wasn't my point.

Then you're gonna have to tell me what was, since I just gave you a mindset, and you asked for a mindset.

In post 2266, sangres wrote:

In post 2265, Venmar wrote:Okay so why are people assuming the existance of a SK to begin with?

Because of two kills N2, neither of which remotely look like scumhunting.

(Quoting this as one more reason Skull's post was BS, by the way. )

also, none of those explain where your read on me went, mafiassk, coz you were really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really fucking confident about it D1 and i don't think a single night phase after a scum lynch that i wasn't on and even spoke out against was going to change your mind about me

mastin i dare you to fucking read what mafiassk wrote about me D1 and tell me you think what he's saying is genuine or makes sense here

In post 2268, mastin2 wrote:Then you're gonna have to tell me what was, since I just gave you a mindset, and you asked for a mindset.

I am by no stretch of the imagination the more difficult head of this hydra to read.

VOTE: Mastin

woot woot

mastin wrote:Random thought: on day two, at least one person said that they thought Varsoon was not a mafia kill. I need to look back and see who said this and/or who agreed with it, since they have a significantly higher chance of being scum

also without checking i believe that was sangres or cabd? i remember it being one of them that first brought it up i think

Pieguy was a bodyguard, chances are he blocked a bigger value target, so I wouldn't count him as a non-scumhunting death.

I would entertain the idea of a vig, but when people start heaving the idea of a SK around I start to get worried.

We should just stick to a MS lynch.