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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:05 am
by skitter30
VOTE COUNT 2.14
DrDolittle (3)
- Nako, Kokichi Oma, PenguinPower

PenguinPower (3)
- Gamma Emerald, OkaPoka, Almost50

OkaPoka (2)
- Sephiroth, DrDolittle

Not Voting (3)
- ofrhz, Mewtaph, DVa

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch


Deadline:
(expired on 2018-11-24 22:00:00)

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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:25 am
by Kokichi Oma
Hmm

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:00 am
by ofrhz
In post 2245, Nako wrote:@DVa @offrhz where are you guys going to put your votes?
VOTE: DDL

I’d also be willing to vote Kokichi

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:52 am
by Sephiroth
If DDL is a town jk could that mean that he blocked the scum NK in A50? I mean if I'm A50 and scum I would definitely want to get an alibi if I saw that my kill didn't go through and claim gs prematurely as he does here

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:04 pm
by DrDolittle
Im here.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:09 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2191, ofrhz wrote:DDL, why did you want Mew to confirm if he was ascetic?
because i have mew as a town read and why he had an investigative null, and I think him holding this information doesn't make any sense.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:10 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2203, OkaPoka wrote:I think A50 is pretty much confirmed GS at this point, barring a scenario of DDL + A50 scumteam which is unlikely and very gusty because double incriminating yourself as scum right now is way too risky.

The way I see the DDL slot is it will resolve itself pretty much in 1 ~ 2 days. Maybe he is lying, but I don't see much we can gain from flipping DDL right now because a town flip gets us nowhere, so we have to be extremely sure of scum DDL.
yup. A50 can check me tonight for guns. (If A50 gets null, then that would indicate I'm scum as well)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:13 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2230, Mewtaph wrote:Well, his next likely scum on his list was you, and I don't think you were suspected in thread.
Yeah it was 50/50 gamma vs A50 block and I chose A50 in the end.
In post 2231, DVa wrote:And DrD didn't crumb at all in any of his long catchup posts?

Idk, I don't get why Mew is doing weird associatives with me instead of pushing drd on his claim, but the claim does seem a bit suspect
I don't crumb. But JK claim is corroborated by my belief in A50's claim in Day 2 as well as my insistence that mew claims that he's not ascetic.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:17 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2226, DVa wrote:
In post 2187, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 2184, OkaPoka wrote:Also why A50 over one of the masons?
this is embarassing but I thought he was scum and likely to make the kill on day end

I guess it is worth asking what about the flip made you change your read of a50 and why you wouldn't use the jk protectively... like why would you assume a50 would be the one to make the kill?

UNVOTE:
I had three scum reads. Knowing BEF is not going to make the kill, its a 50/50 on A50 vs gamma. Whereas if I target a mason for protection, it could easily be WIFOM'd, plus, scum may be interested in shooting others. Overall, my EV computation is that targetting to stop a kill might be better.

In post 2239, OkaPoka wrote:hey wait ddl why are you townreading me
im not.

In post 2243, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: DDL
You are seriously voting a claimed TPR

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:19 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2252, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: DDL
what is it that you don't believe about my role? is it that you hypothesize im scum JK a la Nako or I'm not JK at all?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:21 pm
by DrDolittle
In post 2253, Sephiroth wrote:If DDL is a town jk could that mean that he blocked the scum NK in A50?
actually this could be a reasonable hypothesis on what happened, and my JK actually unintentionally protected A50 :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:23 pm
by OkaPoka
It's still possible that a50 can be maf gunsmith right?

Also nako I have made my reasons for voting pp. But to vote ddl I'd either need a game plan in the case he flips town or so little doubt in town jk ddl where a contingency isn't needed.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:26 pm
by DrDolittle
this might be setup speculation but mafia gunsmith is way too odd.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Mafia GS would mean we’d prolly have vig and one other town role with a gun

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:30 pm
by OkaPoka
i was just looking at another game where there was a mafia gunsmith so thats why i threw it out there

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77190

or maybe rolecop?

im operating completely under the assumption that a vig who shot BEF would have outed themselves already

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2264, OkaPoka wrote:i was just looking at another game where there was a mafia gunsmith so thats why i threw it out there

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77190

or maybe rolecop?

im operating completely under the assumption that a vig who shot BEF would have outed themselves already
Why? And in that case why do you think scum killed widely-scumread BEF?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:37 pm
by OkaPoka
Because if vig shot BEF and didn't out himself, then vig is kinda just letting ourselves dig pits of useless analysis and wifom to make the lynch.

I have no idea why scum would kill BEF, I can only assume pr hunting or wifom.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:45 pm
by OkaPoka
Joey slot being willing to vote kokichi slot makes me doubt my kokichi townread now tho. Kokichi townread only exists because I trust joey slot.

Anyways we have a lot of questions that need to be resolved.

Kokichi - Joey masonry shenanigans

A50 - town invest or scum invest

DDL - town rb or scum rb

and PP alignment, whether we actually had three townies be final wagons on end of D1.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:54 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2266, OkaPoka wrote:Because if vig shot BEF and didn't out himself, then vig is kinda just letting ourselves dig pits of useless analysis and wifom to make the lynch.

I have no idea why scum would kill BEF, I can only assume pr hunting or wifom.
Well could you make a guess as to who would make that kind of play?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:01 pm
by OkaPoka
I don't know enough about everybody's scum game here to make that guess

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:04 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Me neither tbh
My honest opinion? That kinda implicates A50, as he’s the one I mostl likely see suggest an out-there kill among this playerlist.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:36 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 2258, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 2243, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: DDL
You are seriously voting a claimed TPR
Yeah.

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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:53 pm
by Almost50
Guys, I'm really stuck here. I can neither confirm nor deny DrD as either alignment, but I don't think lynching a claimed JK on the day they claimed makes much sense, Not unless you're sure enough they're scum. Otherwise, give them a night to self-resolve.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:55 pm
by PenguinPower
I'm not lynching me. I don't think Oka is scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:02 pm
by Almost50
Who do you think is scum, aside from DrD?