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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:26 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2195, RadiantCowbells wrote:I truly don't believe that Krazy takes a viewpoint that it's good for me to come to second dance as town
Maybe I'm seeing misplaced negativity that should take be there
But I kinda see Krazy as the kind of player who would pull a Mathdino and try to prevent me bring paired with townreads and just try to get me lynched in the Poe pool
Maybe I'm reading imagined stuff into it but that's where my head is at
I'm also uncomfortable with the argument between his/ank but in that case I have problems with it happening at all on both sides and not really sure who the scummy one is? but I do get the distinct gut impression that at least one side of that debate was a wolf
I dunno, I currently townread both of them, especially Ank. She is my strongest townread, based on meta.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:27 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2246, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Could be but coming from someone who was fooled by scum in a hood in Labrynth, I’m not sure how much confidence the rest of town ought ought to have on that read, if the majority disagree with it.
I mean, it's your prerogative to not use your hood. If you're afraid of being pocketed by it, then it's understandable.
I didn't solely mean that we should pair with people we can read
in a hood
, but rather just people we can read in general.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:27 am
by Taly
Phonepost
Meh S_S felt dodgy with his reply, referring to only Allo's posts since he replaced in... I'm not convinced of him either way yet and I'd like to see the rationale for him to be town there.
RC, why do you think I'd be a good partner choice?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:28 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2244, Dannflor wrote:Honestly this is where my scum reads on Pvt and Allo come from. They both feel similar to "having reads just for the sake of having reads"
I don't think that's actually a scum trait. Town feel the pressure to generate reads as much as scum do.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:28 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2197, Pink Ball wrote:
Nancy I know you got some beef in the past with this bitch (female dog) but she's OUR bitch now
I tend to trust anyone who has a good sense of humour in general, so there’s that.
What I do know is this: A game with moment and not you, is a game I don’t want to be in.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:31 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2252, Taly wrote:Meh S_S felt dodgy with his reply, referring to only Allo's posts since he replaced in...
Context is everything.
If I have no context, I have nothing.
I do not want to have nothing.
Ergo, I won't take stuff out of context
If you want to point me to specific posts or sections and give me enough context to understand what's going on, you're more than welcome. But that might violate the "unbiased eye" specification.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:32 am
by Dannflor
In post 2253, Something_Smart wrote:I don't think that's actually a scum trait. Town feel the pressure to generate reads as much as scum do.
I think town are more willing to admit their reads are bad/lazy or that they just don't have strong reads on anyone.
To be fair, Pvt has been more open on this than Allo, but that's why he's higher for me
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:35 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2200, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like if me/ND goes through regardless of my alignment if we don't get killed we are essentially de facto the endgame pairing. No one gets me lynched at that point. I would expect opposition from Krazy on the grounds that I'm an unsafe candidate for an endgame pairing: if I'm wrong on all of this Krazy you're welcome to talk more about this and help me understand where you are at.
So, you disagree with Krazy that we would be the most likely NK then? That would be my main concern with pairing with you.
I think if you pair with Taly over me, the chances of that happening increase exponentially.
I think Taly is the most widely obvtownread lady - if not player - in this setup. Not a single person in this game, has said otherwise.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:37 am
by Krazy
can you talk more on Moment and Pvt when you get a chance
SS might be scum
you joined a game that MUST end within 26 days, and that usually ends in around 20. Right now this game is likely to match that within 2 days, if Dance 1 goes at the pace I have proposed it go at. I am not asking you to solve the game in 8 days, I'm asking you to solve it in 18.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:38 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2256, Dannflor wrote:I think town are more willing to admit their reads are bad/lazy or that they just don't have strong reads on anyone.
That's a good point. I guess the way it works is, if you're in a situation of having no good reads, you can either admit it or force some. Town in that situation are more likely to do the former. But it might be that town are also more likely to get into that situation in the first place? Because town have to form reads off of what they believe, but scum can form reads off of things they believe or things they don't.
That question isn't a simple one like the others. Regardless though your answer was good.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:39 am
by Taly
Nancy wrote:I think if you pair with Taly over me, the chances of that happening increase exponentially.
I think Taly is the most widely obvtownread lady - if not player - in this setup. Not a single person in this game, has said otherwise.
Literally this is the one thing I was trying to avoid lol... cue paranoia.
Why am I town again?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:39 am
by Vedith
In post 2257, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think Taly is the most widely obvtownread lady - if not player - in this setup. Not a single person in this game, has said otherwise.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:40 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2201, RadiantCowbells wrote: In post 2200, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like if me/ND goes through regardless of my alignment if we don't get killed we are essentially de facto the endgame pairing. No one gets me lynched at that point. I would expect opposition from Krazy on the grounds that I'm an unsafe candidate for an endgame pairing: if I'm wrong on all of this Krazy you're welcome to talk more about this and help me understand where you are at.
In post 2199, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: In post 2114, Ankamius wrote: In post 2109, Krazy wrote: In post 2106, Ankamius wrote:the hopeless romantic in me wants to agree to that but the rational part of me if slapping that other part of me down to the ground
you might want to sleep on it although, given I've been listening to his recommendation of music from
2093, I'm liking Pvt on a personal level right now
I mean my read isn't more solid but he seems like a cool guy regardless of alignment
sure but I don't want to be stabbed in the back because I wasn't careful enough
I feel way more confident about Urist being town than Moment fwiw. I might even consider pairing with him myself, if you don’t want him.
Nuh uh
You're mine
You haven’t issued me a formal invitation yet?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:40 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2258, Krazy wrote:you joined a game that MUST end within 26 days, and that usually ends in around 20. Right now this game is likely to match that within 2 days, if Dance 1 goes at the pace I have proposed it go at. I am not asking you to solve the game in 8 days, I'm asking you to solve it in 18.
What is the pace you currently think Dance 1 should go at?
I haven't read much of your ISO, only the beginning.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:42 am
by Krazy
Unless we get a red flip in the pre-dance exclusion, I think the first lynch should happen within 12 hours of daybreak.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:45 am
by Nancy Drew 39
RC hasn’t said anything that strikes me as remotely agendy. I’ve never played with scum!him but I just don’t think this is it.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:46 am
by Allomancer
In post 2264, Krazy wrote:
Unless we get a red flip in the pre-dance exclusion, I think the first lynch should happen within 12 hours of daybreak.
no no no no no why
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:46 am
by Something_Smart
Oh, here's a question about the mechanics that I was thinking about. To Krazy, but anyone can answer. How often do you think we should utilize lynching versus leaving?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:47 am
by RadiantCowbells
Say you're mine
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:48 am
by Krazy
ask firebringer
we should always lynch
and that is definitely something that will not happen
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:50 am
by Dannflor
Leaving is probably only for extreme circumstances. Over relying on it probably means we have less associative tells to work with
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:50 am
by Something_Smart
Scum-RC's basically a god of scumplay. No, he's not ACTUALLY a god of scumplay, but he's BASICALLY a god of scumplay...
RC is a very strong scum player. Since you haven't played with him as scum, I'd recommend you not allow him to get above null-town unless you're explicitly sheeping someone else who knows him better.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2271, Something_Smart wrote:
Scum-RC's basically a god of scumplay. No, he's not ACTUALLY a god of scumplay, but he's BASICALLY a god of scumplay...
RC is a very strong scum player. Since you haven't played with him as scum, I'd recommend you not allow him to get above null-town unless you're explicitly sheeping someone else who knows him better.
Who knows him better again?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:51 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2208, Krazy wrote:My concern with nd/rc initially was that they do not survive intermission
But I've been warming to the idea, particularly since nancy is still getting at least some shade
Still it seems risky
I think RC/Taly doesn’t survive until endgame, if RC’s town. Like you said, I am not the most obvtown read lady in this setup, so scum can still try to push either of us. You disagree?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:51 am
by Something_Smart
I'm not sure how I feel about leaving because it is obviously very powerful if done right. I definitely agree that nobody should leave without asking permission from at least a few people first.