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In post 2244, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Ok

Is it possible that at 2:48 AM my time when I've been going to bed at reasonable hours for weeks my mental faculties aren't entirely there and I misread questions?

What's the scum motivation in the misrepresentation / taking it out of context / whatever

I'M NOT TRYING TO PAINT ANYTHING YOUR DOING AS SCUM RIGHT NOW.
WHY ARE YOU SO SENSITIVE?

I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the unnecessarily hurtful things that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

In post 1544, Titus wrote:If you got a problem with that, deal with it in a PT.

What?

anyway we're close to the finish line here so, let's just finish this LE lynch and call it a day.

In post 2247, Tana and Ephraim wrote:oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.
VS. Promoting cooperation.
VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.
VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.
VS. Letting others speak their minds.
VS. Using logic over emotion.
VS. Putting real pressure on others.
VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

In post 1562, popsofctown wrote:LLD's case is that it's suspicious you have multiple cases and none of them seem likely to be busses, proving you know the scumteam because you are outperforming rand.

@titus

Okay this makes 0 sense. If Titus is TMIing the team why does LLD say none of it looks like bussing?

In post 2251, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the unnecessarily hurtful things that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

(First items scumtells, second items corresponding towntells.)

In post 2251, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the

unnecessarily hurtful things

that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

Turnavour is fair play: Isn't this AtE?

*turnabout, phoneposting sucks.

@Pops: No, I do not. I think you've done some questionable things, but you're far more likely ML bait than scum.

In post 2254, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2247, Tana and Ephraim wrote:oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Looking for scapegoats.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.

Sowing discord.

VS. Promoting cooperation.

Lack of real analysis.

VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.

Making efforts to be active.

Attacking the accuser, not the argument.

VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.

Speaking for or over others.

VS. Letting others speak their minds.

Appealing to emotion.

VS. Using logic over emotion.

Not pushing claimed suspicions.

VS. Putting real pressure on others.

Knowing too much.

VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

Um no. RC is pushing you for your logic, not his. It's the same thing for me pushing Bitmap for his "inconsistency" bout scum starting wagons, I believed Bitmap here was making sense generally bit that doesn't change the fact it seemed like he was betraying his own beliefs. RC is saying you seem to be betraying your beliefs by saying the AtE isn't scummy.

In post 2258, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2251, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the

unnecessarily hurtful things

that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

Turnavour is fair play: Isn't this AtE?

No it' really fucking not
VOTE: Lady Eventide
I'm so voting here when I finish my catch up so I'm not gonna put it off.

In post 2251, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I was referring less to the AtE itself

and more to the calling me an egoist and saying that i treat others like pawns, etc. more the unnecessarily hurtful things that she was saying that she said she had a meta of saying as scum.

Also, this is blatant misrepresentation. I explicitly said I was ashamed and angry at myself for doing that, and I haven't since used such tactics. I do not enjoy making the games I'm in unpleasant for others.

Why is Sailor Senshi voting me?
And ye Lady E you are a lot of fun, just most likely scum

In post 2262, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2254, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2247, Tana and Ephraim wrote:oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Looking for scapegoats.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.

Sowing discord.

VS. Promoting cooperation.

Lack of real analysis.

VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.

Making efforts to be active.

Attacking the accuser, not the argument.

VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.

Speaking for or over others.

VS. Letting others speak their minds.

Appealing to emotion.

VS. Using logic over emotion.

Not pushing claimed suspicions.

VS. Putting real pressure on others.

Knowing too much.

VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

Um no. RC is pushing you for your logic, not his. It's the same thing for me pushing Bitmap for his "inconsistency" bout scum starting wagons, I believed Bitmap here was making sense generally bit that doesn't change the fact it seemed like he was betraying his own beliefs. RC is saying you seem to be betraying your beliefs by saying the AtE isn't scummy.

... saying what AtE isn't scummy? What are you referencing here?

@Pops, Gameplay: Sure, whatever, I'm fine with this; RC is big and it's hard to fight his thread control on his home turf. That said, I really hope you take a long hard look at him after my lynch, assuming that happens.

In post 1630, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i think i lost my way in this game and need to reset

In post 1632, Tana and Ephraim wrote:VOTE: Bitmap
Or i can just vote bitmap... which i guess it's the same thing kinda, while he does.
-Tana

Er what

In post 2267, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2262, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2254, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2247, Tana and Ephraim wrote:oof

oh yeah she herself said ate is a scumtell...

And your slot argued against that then. But now that that's no longer convenient, you've changed your tune. Not only that, I thought you were uninterested in how I characterizw my own play? Your case is falling apart, RC.

Let's take another look at that list of tells, actually. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Looking for scapegoats.

VS Apologizing and owning fault.

Sowing discord.

VS. Promoting cooperation.

Lack of real analysis.

VS. Doing serious analysis work.
Lurking for long periods. VS.

Making efforts to be active.

Attacking the accuser, not the argument.

VS. Engaging seriously with accusations.

Speaking for or over others.

VS. Letting others speak their minds.

Appealing to emotion.

VS. Using logic over emotion.

Not pushing claimed suspicions.

VS. Putting real pressure on others.

Knowing too much.

VS. Showing genuine uncertainty.

... Huh. Seems like by a list I made in a completely different game, in a completely different context, you're objectively far scummier than not. Interesting.

Um no. RC is pushing you for your logic, not his. It's the same thing for me pushing Bitmap for his "inconsistency" bout scum starting wagons, I believed Bitmap here was making sense generally bit that doesn't change the fact it seemed like he was betraying his own beliefs. RC is saying you seem to be betraying your beliefs by saying the AtE isn't scummy.

... saying what AtE isn't scummy? What are you referencing here?

@Pops, Gameplay: Sure, whatever, I'm fine with this; RC is big and it's hard to fight his thread control on his home turf. That said, I really hope you take a long hard look at him after my lynch, assuming that happens.

Idk what I'm referencing but it doesn't matter because it's a situation of principle. You said AtE was scummy initially, then at least as the situation seems to indicate you took a different stance on AtE in practice, so RC called you out.

Using the same tells list, the read I produce on my slot goes:

Looking for scapegoats. VS
Sowing discord. VS.
Lack of real analysis. VS.
Lurking for long periods. VS.
Attacking the accuser, not the argument. VS.
Speaking for or over others. VS.
VS. Using logic over emotion.
VS. Putting real pressure on others.
Knowing too much. VS.

... though of course I may be less legible than this to others, especially in a new environment.

In post 1633, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Yeah we actually should not have unvoted LE.

VOTE: Lady Eventide

I think that unvote is my signature correct scumread then derailing it to go vote town.

Okay no
I thought Sakura ended up not tagging a post but it seems I was wrong

In post 2270, popsofctown wrote:

Hypocrisy is not alignment indicative

Maybe not but when you start trying to twist it to scumpaint the person calling you out it sure as hell is.