Guns & Roses III [Game over]

[Menalque]

I think if SS!scum then gamma very likely scum and icon prob!town or at least enough to not be considered until lylo

[Datisi]

SS I'm really struggling to get a good read on you this game

which I think may actually be town indicative for you bc the only time I personally played against scum!you I was TRing you very hard

okay, what made you change your mind from here

Why is Amrun above Icon?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 3.2

Gamma Emerald [2] - Amrun, Iconeum

Not Voting [7]

- GuiltyLion, Something_Smart, Menalque, Gamma Emerald, Datisi, alimdia, Dogwatch

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be chosen.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-01-02 01:57:31)

[Amrun]

If you're doubling down on said viewpoint, who is the scum on your wagons then?

In my opinion there is one OR MORE scum in {datisi, alimdia, DogWatch}. Datisi and DW were on both wagons, but I don’t truly care about that part. I have already been clear that in this I prefer datisi first.


In fact, I kinda feel like lynching datisi today >.>. But I need to catch up.

[GuiltyLion]

Why do you think there is scum in there? I’m ruling out datisi scum so if there is it’s between DW and amrun but tbh I don’t really SR either of them

it's just because they were on both wagons in the deciding middle vote areas and I feel like it'd be really naive/foolish to assume that no scum was participating in either of those lynches as they were solidifying

but I agree with you that from like tonal/content perspective they all feel town and it's entirely a game state thing that's making me feel like I need to be careful

[Amrun]

So what I'm saying is one of the big wagons on Day 1 has to be scum, otherwise Mena is likely scum.

Eh, can you walk me through this?

My logic is that there were 3 main wagons, 1 kinda wagon (AF but he flipped town)
The 3 main wagons are
Amrun
GL
Creature (town)

So now both Amrun and GL are saying that each other is town. From Amrun's POV then, whos scum? Mena? Since he pushed the Amrun wagon hard. But no, Amrun says Datisi, me, texcat, SS is the lynchpool

Now, I believe it was Amrun and AF who started the GL wagon! So from GL's POV, if its TvTvTvT, then whos the scum?
Heres what he had to say:

If I had to like take a stab at the gamestate I think I'm still townreading Datisi, Ico, and Amrun, but I don't feel great about it. My gut scumreads are Smart and Menalque but I don't feel great about that either. Gammas slot is bad and I still want to lynch it, but we just lynched two bad slots that flipped town, and I don't have a confident read on Dogwatch or Alimdia. I kinda want somebody else to try to take charge for a little bit because I think somewhere along the way I've been buddied and I don't see it.

It's just my weird theory because Amrun or GL isn't being consistent right now.
For the record, I do have my other scum reads but I feel like I'm being taken for a ride right now. Might be why I was paranoid that I thought you slipped earlier Datisi.

I’m being extremely consistent. Just because you say I should believe x, y, or z doesn’t mean I actually do. I’ve been pretty clear on my reads I think.

[alimdia]

@DW can u also explain why amrun is ur top TR? (im assuming top of the list is towniest)

@Gamma Emerald, re ur q about my post 104, I was answering DDL's post 103. The quote was a mistake. (first times using Q++)
For the record I really hate your catchup style. You dont have to comment on every page nani, just the important ones.
Read up a few pages beyond the post you wanna comment, see if anyone else commented on it, and if it got responded to. It might be
obsolete.

here you go again @Gamma Emerald

that makes sense regarding the Q+ feature (which really needs an official explanation because it messes with everyone) but I still by wanting to know what the fuck your CC was for

er was a joke? literally explained within the next few pages. nobody took it seriously

Also theres 8 ppl, 3 scum so about half the people are just pure BS'ing left and right

What? There’s 9 alive

... literally covered the next page



sighs*

[Datisi]

If you're doubling down on said viewpoint, who is the scum on your wagons then?

In my opinion there is one OR MORE scum in {datisi, alimdia, DogWatch}. Datisi and DW were on both wagons, but I don’t truly care about that part. I have already been clear that in this I prefer datisi first.

In fact, I kinda feel like lynching datisi today >.>. But I need to catch up.

Why is alimdia in that bracket? And why am I suddenly lower than Gamma/S_S, especially if you aren't caught up?

[Amrun]

If you're doubling down on said viewpoint, who is the scum on your wagons then?

In my opinion there is one OR MORE scum in {datisi, alimdia, DogWatch}. Datisi and DW were on both wagons, but I don’t truly care about that part. I have already been clear that in this I prefer datisi first.

In fact, I kinda feel like lynching datisi today >.>. But I need to catch up.

Why is alimdia in that bracket? And why am I suddenly lower than Gamma/S_S, especially if you aren't caught up?

Because looking at it in response to alimdia’s question, I realized you are in a sweet spot on both wagons where I’d expect scum to be. Alimdia is there for similar reasons, plus she’s saying such off the wall things that seem like stances, but actually don’t make any fucking sense at all.

Also, I reread my own reread post where NK analysis indicates you, datisi.

I’m still pretty happy lynching gamma/texcat too though. Anyone in my previously published lynch pool would be fantastic but I became a little more confident in a scumread on you recently.

[Datisi]

What similar reasons? Alimdia's positions on wagons were very different from mine.

If you don't care about the "both on-wagon" part, and DW isn't in your pool, why do you mention her? Oh, and current stance on S_S?

[Amrun]

What similar reasons? Alimdia's positions on wagons were very different from mine.

If you don't care about the "both on-wagon" part, and DW isn't in your pool, why do you mention her? Oh, and current stance on S_S?

Alimdia’s original spot on the creature wagon before she diverted to come back and hammer was a sweet scum spot, and like I said, there’s other reasons anyway.

DW isn’t on my list but she was on both my wagon and Creature’s. If I had to add someone else to my list it would be her but tonally, I town read her.

S_S is still scum coasting.

[Datisi]

Ah yeah, that hammer on town!Creature when someone else had already given intent was a sweet scum spot indeed

[Something_Smart]

Who's coasting?

[Something_Smart]

Ah yeah, that hammer on town!Creature when someone else had already given intent was a sweet scum spot indeed

That's a towny action. Why join a town wagon as scum if you know it'll go through without you?

[Something_Smart]

She could be, that just seems pretty significantly less likely. How often do you do that as scum?

Not frequently, but I don't do it much as town either. I think it's partially a player dependent thing.

[Datisi]

Ah yeah, that hammer on town!Creature when someone else had already given intent was a sweet scum spot indeed

That's a towny action. Why join a town wagon as scum if you know it'll go through without you?

Yes, that was exactly my point

[Something_Smart]

Oh, it was sarcasm.

I gotchu now, lol.

[Amrun]

Btw, I said alimdia’s PREVIOUS spot on the Creature wagon.

The hammer itself is null for me, or even maybe a little towny.

But alimdia is my lowest preference in my lynch pool.

[Something_Smart]

Menalque, give me the Sparknotes on Datisi town.

[Something_Smart]

I didn't say anything about "off my tone," either. My tone is my tone, it varies based on a bunch of factors.

What's off this game is my content, which is separate from my tone, but I think it's because not a lot of people have really put forward reasoning that I can engage with, and it's left me... disengaged. Shocker.

[Datisi]

S_S, have your feelings on Amrun changed since you've put out your čist?

[Something_Smart]

My what now?

[Datisi]

Bleh, sorry if the phrasing was weird. Your read. Whatever it is. You put her in the bottom bracket on your list*, but said it's not that confident. Has that changed in any way?

[GuiltyLion]

I'm talking myself into a S_S vote. I don't think Gamma is the safest/best lynch today

[Menalque]

Will try to get to this soon sorry, holiday season isn’t great for me