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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:57 am

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Because even though you spewed yourself town, you also spouted a ton of crackpot theories, scumread blair, and even scumread me over Popopo when it was freaking obvious he was scum.
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 am

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In post 2250, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because even though you spewed yourself town, you also spouted a ton of crackpot theories, scumread blair, and even scumread me over Popopo when it was freaking obvious he was scum.
I ended up on popo so that's a moot point.
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:30 am

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In post 2241, Blair wrote:It's definitely not unethical play, either. It's pretty good scum play - you almost have to engage in this to some degree as scum if you ever want to convincingly push a mislynch. The art of perfecting it boils down to either A) being so subtle and persuasive that no one notices it's bad faith, or B) making it look like confirmation bias.
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:03 am

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Also to note is that Truth lost us the game by their claim.
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:23 am

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Mafia PT has been released
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:57 am

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Dunnstral wrote:If I quickhammer here I get shot at immediately by Blair, but I can do it if you'd like
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:05 pm

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GG scum

Thanks for modding Deimos! The game was modded very well
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:54 pm

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Apologies for gunning you down in the prime of your life, CSF.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:58 pm

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Reading the mafia chat I'm amazed by Glitch's game summaries.


Sorry for getting in Lion's way after he nailed the scum team.


After popo changed his claim I had been considering quickhammering if he ever got to L-1. Probably wouldn't have gone through in fear of if he actually was town and claimed vanilla after being guiltiedd for some weird reason.


10 out of 10 would let looker be the game saving pr again.


@Truth, I strongly disagree for your hammer on me. Two main reasons, one is that you did not allow for me to roleclaim, which is the main reason why people 'intent to hammer' -- so they don't hammer an important town pr. (In this case would have been looker's 1-shot watcher.) And second is that your reason for it seemed to be that you were bored? I'm still confused by that.
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 2258, NDMath wrote:Reading the mafia chat I'm amazed by Glitch's game summaries.
What about them? They saved my life. I had a really hard time following GL's logic and keeping up with the volume of posts from Quick and Norway. My notes are the only thing that saved me and they were a huge aide in helping me build cases against people.

Also to be fair, my push against you was total bullshit. I actually didn't think you were playing that bad, I just needed a target to throw shade at and I found an opportunity with you. I would love to play with you, and most everyone else here, again.

Is this about standard for how long games run and how active they are? Day 1 I was really struggling. I mean there were 2 or 3 days I spent 5 hours reading and writing in this game and it was just really intense. Part of that was because I was playing more careful as scum and didn't want to slip up. But part of it was just the sheer volume of content on D1. Is this normal? Cause I want to play again but if this is normal I'm gonna head over to that Geriatric thread and see if they want to start up a slower paced game because that was just so intense.

At the end of D3 I was also so exhausted and was so ready to just get an elimination on the road with. Had we not eliminated NDmath as fast as we did I think I would have ended up slipping up and rushing a lynch out of theatrical exhaustion. Keeping up the performance is hard work.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 47, Nauci wrote:
In post 15, Truth wrote:Interesting. I would like everyone to know I am a
Miller Mason
. I have buddies but I won't be revealing who they are at this time. For now, I will act as their representative.

We would like a nice clean thread clear of profanities. Whenever giving a read or placing a vote, we would like a reason attached as to avoid people having to ask for the reasons. Thank you, we'll let you know if there's any updates.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:36 pm

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Wow that was a formatting clusterfuck and I have no idea why that truth quote is in there. Disregard. Sorry.

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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 2259, Glitch wrote:
In post 2258, NDMath wrote:Reading the mafia chat I'm amazed by Glitch's game summaries.
What about them? They saved my life. I had a really hard time following GL's logic and keeping up with the volume of posts from Quick and Norway. My notes are the only thing that saved me and they were a huge aide in helping me build cases against people.

Also to be fair, my push against you was total bullshit. I actually didn't think you were playing that bad, I just needed a target to throw shade at and I found an opportunity with you. I would love to play with you, and most everyone else here, again.

Is this about standard for how long games run and how active they are? Day 1 I was really struggling. I mean there were 2 or 3 days I spent 5 hours reading and writing in this game and it was just really intense. Part of that was because I was playing more careful as scum and didn't want to slip up. But part of it was just the sheer volume of content on D1. Is this normal? Cause I want to play again but if this is normal I'm gonna head over to that Geriatric thread and see if they want to start up a slower paced game because that was just so intense.

At the end of D3 I was also so exhausted and was so ready to just get an elimination on the road with. Had we not eliminated NDmath as fast as we did I think I would have ended up slipping up and rushing a lynch out of theatrical exhaustion. Keeping up the performance is hard work.
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Seeing you evaluate. Like I could probably compare your game summary and Iso (haven't yet so I might be wrong) and understand the lens you were seeing the game from.

Pretty sure this is about average for post amount.
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:05 pm

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@Glitch
It’s more like i tend to spam posts and argue a lot.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:54 pm

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In post 2259, Glitch wrote:Is this about standard for how long games run and how active they are? Day 1 I was really struggling. I mean there were 2 or 3 days I spent 5 hours reading and writing in this game and it was just really intense. Part of that was because I was playing more careful as scum and didn't want to slip up. But part of it was just the sheer volume of content on D1. Is this normal? Cause I want to play again but if this is normal I'm gonna head over to that Geriatric thread and see if they want to start up a slower paced game because that was just so intense.
It’s tiresome for you because you do deep analyzis. Most of the time i’m just saying whatever’s on my mind. It’s a playstyle clash that makes it harder for you to keep up, and with the added fact that you’re scum trying to formulate strategiez it does make it take much more time for you. I’m not saying either of us are more "correct" in our approach. But that’s how it turns out when we play together. LQ was another high poster so that adds up to a lot of content.
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:25 pm

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Glitch played excellently. My previous playstyle was very similar to his current one (until I learned it's way easier to spam post than wall post) but he pulled it off way better than I could've. And I definitely relate to activity being a major obstacle to such analytic play.

And yeah, this game is relatively average in terms of page count. The D1 was pretty spammy, but they tend to be.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:29 pm

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I had a scum read on Glitch on day 1 because everything was technically correct in the posts, but they always happened IRL-days or several pages after everyone else had the thoughts. Later on in the game though I felt like I was just desperately hoping the sane players are town ;_;
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:30 pm

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In post 2266, Nauci wrote:I had a scum read on Glitch on day 1 because everything was technically correct in the posts, but they always happened IRL-days or several pages after everyone else had the thoughts. Later on in the game though I felt like I was just desperately hoping the sane players are town ;_;
It's always difficult when only scum are the remaining voices of reason.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:42 am

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In post 2266, Nauci wrote:I had a scum read on Glitch on day 1 because everything was technically correct in the posts, but they always happened IRL-days or several pages after everyone else had the thoughts. Later on in the game though I felt like I was just desperately hoping the sane players are town ;_;
I had a major shift in strategy mid-day 1 after a handful of my walls had gone up. I was getting SR'd a lot at the beginning and as people pointed out why I adjusted accordingly. Someone called me on my first wall being IIoA and when I realized it was true i tried really hard to fix it but that's partially why it took me so long to play.

That said, I'm SO glad I got an intent to hammer in on Dunnstral without having to actually hammer. That made me feel really accomplished on top of my bus with popo. I play mostly in person so bussing is usually short and doesn't take a lot of effort. But had Dunn flipped later on I felt like I was set up well from there.

I think my biggest mistake was setting myself up for the Truth flip too hard. Defending him so hard was because even if I were town I would genuinely have made those arguments but when Blair called me on that saying I'm scum who knows we were about to flip town, i was like... Oh shit. She's right. LOL
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:35 am

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In post 692, Glitch wrote:I know I'm still talking about Truth right now while no one else is but I am really not convinced to stop reading him as scum yet so I have more questions
before I can let this go
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Scum slip :eek: :good:
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 2268, Glitch wrote:Someone called me on my first wall being IIoA
Hey that was me
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