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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:26 pm

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Spare Votecount 2.6
Hectic--------------------------
(1) Hectic
Chara---------------------------
(1) CantLynchAPuppy
Prism --------------------------

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------

Lavender ----------------------

Krazy--------------------------

Tanner -------------------------

CantLynchAPuppy-------------

Not sparing:
- (8) Chara, Prism, PookyTheMagicalBear, Morning Tweet, Tayl0r Swift, Lavender, Krazy, Tanner



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Hectic--------------------------

Chara---------------------------

Prism --------------------------

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------
(2) Tanner, Prism
Lavender ----------------------
(3) Tayl0r Swift, Chara, Morning Tweet
Krazy--------------------------
(1) CantLynchAPuppy
Tanner -------------------------
(2) Krazy, Hectic
CantLynchAPuppy-------------

Not Fighting:
- (2) PookyTheMagicalBear, Lavender

When Morning Tweet saw Lavender getting bowled over, she grinned at the opportunity.
"Finally!"

Morning Tweet's senses were displeased with Lavender too, but not her hearing. Lavender's bright, glowing orbs had been keeping the cave from having its evening appropriate lighting. It seemed entirely wrong. Wasn't bed time soon? When everyone eats Nice Cream they will become sleepy!
When Lavender was knocked over, she lost control of her orbs. Morning Tweet flew over and picked them up, then found some bits of damp black construction paper that had blown onto the cavern floor. With a grin on her hidden face, she tucked the orbs beneath the construction paper. The lighting in the cavern grew dimmer right away. The fluttering knight celebrated by flying up to a stalactice and grabbing onto it with her greave-clad legs to hang upside down, feeling one with the darkness.


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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:27 pm

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how is she so good at that >.>
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 2249, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:gimme the three line elevator pitch
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 2243, Tanner wrote:krazy i'm gonna assume you're not making fun of me in 2240 because it's seriously killing my morale if you are

I would never make fun of you Tanner :(
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:55 pm

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In post 2250, Isis wrote:
When Morning Tweet saw Lavender getting bowled over, she grinned at the opportunity.
"Finally!"

Morning Tweet's senses were displeased with Lavender too, but not her hearing. Lavender's bright, glowing orbs had been keeping the cave from having its evening appropriate lighting. It seemed entirely wrong. Wasn't bed time soon? When everyone eats Nice Cream they will become sleepy!
When Lavender was knocked over, she lost control of her orbs. Morning Tweet flew over and picked them up, then found some bits of damp black construction paper that had blown onto the cavern floor. With a grin on her hidden face, she tucked the orbs beneath the construction paper. The lighting in the cavern grew dimmer right away. The fluttering knight celebrated by flying up to a stalactice and grabbing onto it with her greave-clad legs to hang upside down, feeling one with the darkness.
Yay for dark sleepy time! \(≧∀≦)/

I'm gonna keep voting Lav but i will read through the Tanner stuff when i can
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm

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doggo what's your view on tayl0r?
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:00 pm

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In post 2223, Krazy wrote:Lavender chan could you give us a full list as best you can? Have any of your reads changed this dayphase?
ヽ(;▽;)ノ Okay


Hectic:
I don’t think my thoughts on Hectic have changed much since I found out they were Marksman.
They seem likely to be Town, but not 100% you know?
I do think they have done good posts.
I wonder if this is my question bias kicking in though, well if he turns on I it’ll be real deja vu.

Chara:
Don’t really recall what I fully thought of Chara, I imagine I thought them pretty townie however with their posts.
I think they’re a bit nullish to me, maybe leaning town just a bit, their reasoning is a bit confusing to me ahah...

Is my comprehension just not good?
No it’s probably my attention span.

Pooky:
My memory is bad I admit, because I don’t remember any of my reads from last day that well.
Why am I saying it on Pooky’s slot?
No reason it just occurred to me so I put it here. (Not because I completely forgot about all of Pooky’s post or anything)

ANYWAYS, in my opinion Pooky has been pretty townie, their vote on Ele/beeboy felt real and they have a good vibe?
Active and hunting yeah yeah.
I might be absolutely wrong but that’s not the first time something like that has happened...

Prism:
I hope they stop throwing their pitiful phone.
In all honesty I believe they are Town by the way the act, though they self-meta’d themselves acting like such with games that I did not read so unsure.
However, I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt because imaging Anxious Town Dictator Prism is great! O(∩_∩)O~

MTweet:
Their reasoning for voting me is a tad iffy but not unbelievable.
To be quite honest I don’t have a good understanding of them well enough.
I mean I don’t really understand anyone else that well, but MTweet is at the top of the list!

I’ve spent 10 minutes reading their ISO and coming up with
Nothing substantial.
They feel like Basic Baby Town, what that means is what I said.
Is this a good thing?
Yesn’t

Tayl0r:
I talked about them in my last post you know.
I feel like they’re just trying their best to avoid being lynched and pushing it away to others.
Yada yada.

Krazy:
Their previous slot I remember felt townie, for, gut?
To be honest my gut isn’t that good, but eh.
Right Krazy, they made fun long posts. That have already exceeded my post count.
I realize my failure as a player.

Okay okay, so Krazy feels pretty strongly in their read so much so that they have not moved their vote since the beginning.
Honestly this doesn’t seem like something scum would do at this moment.
Since from my perspective, tis I is town, I imagine scum would be more inclined use I as lynchbait then incriminate others (´・ω・`)
Or they are purposefully avoiding I and hoping Town will get rid of I themselves eheh

Tanner:
Tannnyyyy-channnnn ever give another rant about I?
So Tanny-chan for me is now more than ever nullyyy, my heart says pah who need Tanny-chan?
But brain ask, why Tayl0r deflect on them?
They gave good counter arguments about themselves, but I still feel myself being swayed to the original ever still.
To be frank with ya, I think Tanny-chan will depend on what Tayl0r is ◉‿◉ oh this emoji is very creepy


Puppy:
I’ve explained my reads on Puppy before, it didn’t change, honestly I’m on the last stretch and don’t want to re-type!

PE: (;´Д`) My Orbs!
Also when did this get so long Σ( ̄。 ̄ノ)ノ
I swear I was trying to make it simple!!!
But tired Lavendar began to ramble without my notice?!?
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:14 pm

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i dont like that youre associating me with the creepy emoji
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:31 pm

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In post 2256, Lavender wrote:I’ve spent 10 minutes reading their ISO and coming up with
Nothing substantial.
They feel like Basic Baby Town, what that means is what I said.
Is this a good thing?
Yesn’t
You read my ISO for 10 minutes?

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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:34 pm

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All good things must come to an end, and so my vacation is one of them.

What did I do? Well, the world was my oyster. I skipped my workout two days in a row. Life is too short to waste it on some life-extending ponzi scheme. I went to the store and bought a half gallon of chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream. I didn't get through all of it, alas some tasks remain unfinished. I didn't think about the mafia game. I haven't even read any posts.

But...I do have some news to break.

You see Hectic's V/LA? Well, we took a bit of a beach vacation...
together
. After Chara and I fell apart, I needed to move on, you know? And with the stress of the mafia game, I figured it was time for some sunshine: to feel the warmth on my skin, to take a dip in the cool water, to watch the sky bathed in sunset afterglow. And Hectic? Well, we may not always see eye to eye, but something about that
stache
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Spoiler: Prism and Hectic's Beach Activities
First, we planted some sunflowers. This one reminded me of Morning Tweet. The big one in the back is Puppy.
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Next, we went to the top of an amusement park and took in the sights.
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Finally, we enjoyed the sun fading gently over the horizon, dying the sea that lovely deep blue.
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The next stop was apparently something called "Corona Mountain". I felt now might not be the best time for that, so we came home a bit early.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:39 pm

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In post 2256, Lavender wrote:MTweet:
Their reasoning for voting me is a tad iffy but not unbelievable.
To be quite honest I don’t have a good understanding of them well enough.
I mean I don’t really understand anyone else that well, but MTweet is at the top of the list!

I’ve spent 10 minutes reading their ISO and coming up with
Nothing substantial.
They feel like Basic Baby Town, what that means is what I said.
Is this a good thing?
Yesn’t
I have no idea what any of this means but I'm for it

Anyway, if I'm following your reads correctly, you're leaning toward fighting tayl0r over tanner?
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:40 pm

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I ship Hec/ism

Or maybe Pr/ectic?
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:48 pm

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In post 2260, Krazy wrote:
In post 2256, Lavender wrote:MTweet:
Their reasoning for voting me is a tad iffy but not unbelievable.
To be quite honest I don’t have a good understanding of them well enough.
I mean I don’t really understand anyone else that well, but MTweet is at the top of the list!

I’ve spent 10 minutes reading their ISO and coming up with
Nothing substantial.
They feel like Basic Baby Town, what that means is what I said.
Is this a good thing?
Yesn’t
I have no idea what any of this means but I'm for it

Anyway, if I'm following your reads correctly, you're leaning toward fighting tayl0r over tanner?
ya me neither

At first I felt like "Well, I'm unsure scum Lavender would come up with the idea to say she spent 10 minutes reading my ISO without being able to think of anything"

Then I was like "Well scum kind of has to make reads too, so she genuinely might have read it for 10 minutes and came up with nothing"

so now im ???

I sort of like my vote on her less and it's prompting to me to reread. Spoilers: I currently have Prism/Chara as locktown, Puppy/Pooky as heavy town (pending my reread a bit), Hectic is sort of a lean town, it really felt like he went hard on Elements in some spots. PoE: Tanner/Tayl0r/Lav/Krazy. Completely unsure who to fire at in the PoE
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:09 pm

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In post 2228, Hectic wrote:Also, I had this thought earlier in the day that Tanner was tryharding a little too much when the game was kinda stalled and Sujimichi was the only real wagon. People weren't really in it, but Tanner was still putting the effort in to reply and interact with many things. It's possible scum!Tanner felt the need to keep up content if he wants to have a chance to deepwolf this game. Admittedly though, this does go against what I know of scum!Datisi in recent times, who has a lot less WIM then town!Datisi.
???????

I've literally spent all day playing like I'm in 3 way in a 250 page game, when in reality town literally has like 4 chances to fight scum. How on earth have the alarm bells sounded for Tanner over me? You started the day pushing me but have essentially stopped since I kicked into overdrive.
In post 2231, Hectic wrote:To clarify on this: It felt like he was forcing himself to in a way.

I think Tanner makes a lot more sense as
Chara
then regular scum, since I don't think scum!Tanner's heart would be in it as much unless they knew the finish line was in sight, at least for their slot. Meanwhile, Krazy is confirmed not-ChArA unless he's pulling a conspiracy-brained move of making town!Lavender look even worse tomorrow when he flips as ChArA tonight.

Sigh, this feels wrong and bad, but I think it makes more sense to do this, considering Tanner is the far more likely ChArA than Krazy is:

HURT: Tanner
??? again, if Tanner is tryharding the day and setting himself up for the next day he's unlikely to be Chara. Their heart being more in it and posting more because "the finish line is in sight" like, cursory makes sense but in reality he just wants the stalled wagon to wrap up ASAP
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:12 pm

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In post 324, Hectic wrote:Image

His approach on me this game is vastly different to how he's ever treated me. The last ~5 games I've played with him he's scumread me. He was town in 4 of those, and scum in 1. My last game with him is the one he was scum in, and in that he mentioned in the scumchat that he knew how to manipulate me by playing to his townmeta, and proceeded to scumread me as usual... the FOOL, that won't ever work on me again.
So, this is very new to me. He doesn't even have a reason to townread me, he's doing it in a memey "Hectic is always town" way. I think there's a chance he's polarising his approach from his last scumgame so that I think he's town here, but he's overdoing it.
Oh yeah here's that Hectic post I was thinking of

That is exactly what Elements was doing. Hectic pointed it out. Does he do that if he's Elements partner? Certainly not if he's Chara at least -- that'd be suicide surely? You don't know if the second mafia will be a deepwolf or not on page 13.

Elements was at 3 votes at the time. Hectic voted for redtea, and then Pooky before making this post.
He does note that it is possible Elements is town just a bit later after prompted by Prism.

Now he does some healing me stuff, questions Pooky a bit, and then next he goes after Elements. So he never tried to attack elsewhere from Elements much at all here. The most he did was call Pooky "strange".
In post 641, Hectic wrote:Launchy's explanation that he wanted to ask who I'd like to SPARE since I wasn't actively pushing for anyone is perfectly reasonable. Why did you, FIGHT him anyway, Ele? Plus, what's scummy about him changing his tune in the first place?

HURT: Elements
Elements kind of peaces out after this. So I guess it's no surprise Hectic keeps him at the bottom of his reads. He does not want to FIGHT anyone but Elements from this point on.

However, Hectic has one other push that he focuses on.. he wants to SPARE me. He tries to get me spared twice on D1. Now, what would be a brilliant plan is to pretend I've townspewed so hard he has no choice but to advocate for my spare, all fights be damned. But.. I'm not really sure that does much to help Elements. Buy time I guess?

The only reason I'm considering this is because he called it out so early. This doesn't really happen. It usually takes a decent body of work, and he'll be like "Looking at your ISO this game, it seems somewhat/decently likely you're town." For sure he's very accurate when he says that, but he doesn't always get there. Totally locktowning me on the 23rd page? That's highly unusual. He couldn't tell for sure if I was town even after like 120 pages of another game we played (i was town). He has such confidence in this game!
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Lavender is town because of the stream of consciousness and free flowing kind of posting in her read list. It's why I wanted to get one out of her. As scum, her reads are rigid with little turns in the middle. As town, she changes her mind while she's even writing out the read. See her recent Nightless Vanilla towngame and the readslist in that, and then compare it to the readslist in her scumgame to see what I mean.
In post 927, Hectic wrote:Tbf I don't think beeboy is terribly difficult to read, he's capable of being very obvtown at times. I just want to FIGHT him because Ele did a good amount of scum-indicative stuff.
In post 945, Hectic wrote:Meh, beeboy hasn't done anything to change my mind on the slot and I think my reasons on Ele are solid.
Anyway Hectic was very clear for the majority of the day he wasn't budging on that fight. The only possible escape for Elements would have been getting me spared.

I think it's extremely unlikely for Hectic to be Not Chara but Prism has kinda already covered that. Chances of being the mafia? I don't think he is, but now I'm harbouring a bit of paranoia over his townread on me. I think my tier at "slight town" is a good pick

pedit: heyy what a coincidence it just so happens ive been ISOing hectic for the past 15 min
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:13 pm

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Oh also lengthy defense of Lav is kind of odd for scum!Hectic
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:15 pm

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Tanner is probably #3 on my list atm after Tayl0r/Hectic. I wasn't persuaded they were scum by Krazy's case but it does tell me I need to look over his push on Puppy with a much closer and more skeptical eye rather than giving it a pass just because.

This is really minor Krazy but questioning you about your Hectic progression seems to make sense, as 1561 appears to imply that some parts of Hectic's game are scummy.
In post 2213, Tanner wrote:though the longer this goes on (and i'm somewhat certain you're not chara) the more i have the urge to just give in and start pushing for your fight. either you're scum trying to set basis for my execution the next day, or you're town and wrong and tunnelled.
I'm glad you're on Tayl0r right now but the process of even thinking to vote someone who is unlikely Chara here is questionable
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:24 pm

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The first post there, 324, is a big problem imo in 2 ways. First, it came in the midst of me absolutely grilling him for playing it safe with a Pooky vote and challenged him to give a real read. Second, he completely ignores the fact that Elements was wrong in Hectic in all of the games described. I had to ask him for the background, at which point he only reluctantly said, paraphrasing "but still he's overplaying it"

I'm also still bothered by the push today blatantly not evolving at all overnight with the flip. When you have an idea going into the night, you chew it on it for a few days. You take the flip into account. Hectic's opening push on me at daystart was blatantly stuck pre-flip Night 1, and he admitted it. He didn't do any of the investigation one would expect from his described paranoia of me-looking at my interactions with the flipped scum, for example.

either way this isn't the vote today so I guess I can revisit it later, I'm kind of having to work my way back into reading/playing
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:26 pm

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Eh, actually, trying to work my way back through the catalog tonight probably isn't a good idea since it's late and I'm getting tired. I'll work back into it while I'm fresh tomorrow.
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:28 pm

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I also owe Tayl0r a lot in the morning, too, now that I think of it with the linked game+I need to review Noir again, should probably just review the entire slot again while I'm at it along w/ Tanner
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:29 pm

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Tayl0r seems to mostly suspect Hectic/catboi early, and she likes Pooky. She makes one comment on Elements:
In post 497, Tayl0r Swift wrote:is elements normally this quiet as town?
uuuugghhh i wish this weren't here so I could scumread her more easily. It's not even really anything much. She doesn't make any other suspecting Element posts though other than this one shade. She really just scumreads catboi hard. She drops the Hectic scumread after a bit.

.....did tayl0r kill catboi so she could be like "Why would I kill my strongest scumread?" today? That'd be funny
In post 720, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hmm i reread the iso and im not sure what i was seeing. its possible that the avatar just set me off? on rereading youre more null-town
hahahahaahaha i forgot about this one
In post 857, Tayl0r Swift wrote:hectic - probably town. stop being a goof though, and while i agree that deciding lavender is town rather than scum is passing on an opportunity for opportunism, it feels like a weak read
elements - beeboy hasnt really done anything to make me townread that slot (yet)
chara - am i the only one thinking chara might be scum here? chara let themself be talked into scumreading me pretty easily, and seems to float around the popular opinions a lot but never do much scumhunting
prism - prolly just town
pooky - definitely town
catboi - i still have misgivings
morning - those ears could never be scum
lavender - needs more content, in PoE
redtea - i dont remember any posts from this slot. i guess at some point i should read the iso but its not a good sign if they arent doing anything worth remembering. could just be the awolness that made me forget
tanner - prolly just town
puppy - hasnt really done much townie recently, but was a townread earlier

so that makes my PoE chara, lavender, redtea, puppy. out of those i want to HURT: chara
She forgets to include catboi and beeboy-Elements in her PoE here for some reason. the Chara vote is completely out of left field.
In post 869, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im down for a beeboy wagon
Tayl0r states just a bit after the readslist that she is down for the beeboy wagon though.

Here is the VC around that vote and readslist, for context: (this is about 100 posts later)
In post 960, Isis wrote:
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Hectic--------------------------
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beeboy-----------------------
(4) Chara, Hectic, catboi , CantLynchAPuppy
Chara---------------------------
(2) redtea, Tayl0r Swift,
Prism --------------------------

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

catboi--------------------------

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------
(1) catboi
Lavender ----------------------
(1) Tanner
redtea --------------------------

Tanner -------------------------

CantLynchAPuppy-------------

Not Fighting:
- (3) PookyTheMagicalBear, Lavender, beeboy
That doesn't look very good. She didn't end up voting beeboy

side note, did my vote vanish in the VC?
In post 923, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 830, beeboy wrote:Prism's read list had a set of takes that I think come from town.
His read on MT although consistent of him saying a bunch of MT traits and calling them scum indicative.
I also really liked that read in particular.

To some degree I want to town read MT for Hectic's "Top secret meta read", since good players tend to not say that without a real reason to do so.
But I also think I could probably read her on my own since I am fairly experienced playing with her, and she did perceive herself to be scum in one game even if she was town and could have thought it was multiball.

I originally wanted to question Hectic because I never heard of this tell before!!! But the 3 games that the 3 of us touched were 2 games modded by hectic and 1 modded by MT.
For the amount I've played with both Hectic and MT I am genuinely suprised this is the first time the 3 of us have played together. I don't want to count the dance game since it was an anon game.
i read beeboy's iso to decide whether it was a worthwhile wagon, but this is the only post with AI content (except the post advocating spares, which is scummy and was done twice in two different ways: spare at least one, and the spare route is good), and the AI content here is meh. dunno if its just because of catchup or what. beeboy needs more content but im not ready to lunch there yet.
She is definitely willing to give him a chance. Is that scummy? she wasn't around for the execution so I do not know if she would've ended up voting. She certainly was never interested in pursuing Elements-beeboy during the large majority of the day at the very least
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pm

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that catboi progression is still nonsense and the hectic 180 was completely out of left field

482 is basically the only problem to me, along with her in Noir being more reluctant to pressure her partners (though chara is essentially encouraged to do this day 1)

I also completely forgot to dig into the lavender wall, super happy to see that but yeah that's a tomorrow project

ok night morning, glad to be back y'all
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:54 pm

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pedit: night prism!!
In post 230, Morning Tweet wrote:i have a positive read on Chara/catboi/Prism and probably a slight one on Puppy/Tanner. Puppy moreso than Tanner. Also maybe redtea. So like catboi>Chara>Prism>Puppy>Tanner>redtea

Undecided so far on {Hectic, Lavender, Pooky, taylor, and Elements}

HEAL: catboi
HURT: Elements
Wow I've had quite the static reads huh. Or maybe you all just exhibit unchanging amounts of towniness.
In post 233, Tanner wrote:i think our reads are ~more-or-less similar. i take that as a good sign? also can you talk about the Prism townread, is there anything other than mech-effort?

HURT: elements
Early elements vote nice
In post 259, Tanner wrote:HURT: taylor
In post 347, Tanner wrote:
In post 306, catboi wrote:
In post 294, Tanner wrote:i didn't think i'd ever have the urge to vig 1/3rd of the players in a given game, but it's actually happened.
Well, 25% of the players in the game right now are scum, but it's probably not all the non-contributors. It's never that easy...usually.
what if... the scumteam was... exactly taylor/lavender/pooky .. aha ha, just kidding.. unless.. ?

i feel like i'm going back and forth on hectic. i really liked (as it's almost the exact same thought i had upon seeing it) and the fact he's pressuring pooky, but then one person that seems to have experience with him says he's suspicious, then the other person that has experience with him says that's the hectic they wanted to see and sigh. wish
i
knew how to read hectic.

@hectic, do you have a read on me yet?

i hate that at this point i want to townread people (e.g. chara and prism with pooky on this page) just for telling people to
play the damn game
.
well that didn't last very long
In post 460, Tanner wrote:
In post 450, catboi wrote:
In post 419, Tanner wrote:
In post 407, catboi wrote:Lavender:
already said I think there's a chance she could just be scum who doesn't know how to fake it. I actually really dislike the tone of . However, I feel as though she'd be a waste of a vote today. evaluate on day 2.
why would she be a waste of a vote on day one? do you think it's gonna get *easier* to evaluate a nothing slot on day two?
have a theory that she might open up some if she's town or at least give us more to work with if not.
is this theory based on experience...?

oh hey look a serious wagon for once?
HURT: pooky
Seriously willing to kill Pooky it seems

He argues with Pooky quite a bit on the mechanics of sparing versus not sparing. Tanner is correct of course -- but was this just an easyish thing to scumread?
In post 546, Tanner wrote:elements's pooky/puppy/tanner team is a... spicy take.
little Elements shade here
In post 597, Tanner wrote:ugh, okay. it's already way past 3am here and i'm pretty tired and this game is uninspiring, so. i was hoping that elements would be back to elaborate on his reads or that lavender would be back to do
something
since those are the two things that interest me the most at the moment but alas.
In post 547, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 546, Tanner wrote:i mean, define productive. imo getting people onto the highest EV path is productive. getting everyone to start talking reads is productive, because i will have a very hard time caring about this game if there's 3 people ~doing nothing~. am i succeeding in what i'm doing? debateable.
you know it probably would've been way easier to get AI-reads on the scum team if we had at least pretended to be down with the 4-spare strategy for a few days to give the incentive for scum to try to get a chara-spare win rather than just being like hell no there's no way we r giving chara a chance to win early.
is that what you were doing?

i'm seeing people starting to get suspicious of puppy and at some point i did start wondering if he's been pocketing me and if he starts looking like a plausible day one fight i will look into it.

my Spicy Hot Take(tm) of the night is that lavender (confidering how difficult they seem to be to wagon) is chara who's trying to leave out the fewest associates possible for after they flip. this may or may not be the sleep deprevation mixed with unhealthy tunnelling speaking. i'll decide in the morning.
HURT: lavender

i swear i will give this more attention (or like, a proper readthrough of ISOS or something) once i get some sleep

am probably around for the next ~half an hour if someone needs me
Was willing to kill Pooky, is voting Lav, is willing to look into Puppy as well. Anyone but Elements so far.
In post 996, Tanner wrote:hello i'm here earlier than usual since the deadline is in ~24 hours and i'm feeling dead tired today and will soon disappear back into the void for another 12 hours

my room-temperature bad-VCA take is that beeboy is prob town for how "fast" the wagon was there but also that i'd be willing to vote there if really necessary

i actually *don't* feel that strong of an urge to vote taylor anymore? i dunno. would definitely still fight lavender.

chara, i think you asked me about catboi? this is me acknowledging that i read that, but just... N/A. my brain is fried. the closest thing i got is that his townread on me felt ~weird~.
Ah yes here we are. The soft defense of beeboy-Elements. Seems like an unwise move for scum. What was the VC at?
In post 960, Isis wrote:
Fight Votecount 1.8
Hectic--------------------------
(1) Prism
beeboy-----------------------
(4) Chara, Hectic, catboi , CantLynchAPuppy
Chara---------------------------
(2) redtea, Tayl0r Swift,
Prism --------------------------

PookyTheMagicalBear -------

catboi--------------------------

Morning Tweet----------------

Tayl0r Swift -------------------
(1) catboi
Lavender ----------------------
(1) Tanner
redtea --------------------------

Tanner -------------------------

CantLynchAPuppy-------------

Not Fighting:
- (3) PookyTheMagicalBear, Lavender, beeboy
I do kind of feel that Tanner is town who just was off-wagon. Is there a situation for one of the scum where it's a good idea to defend their buddy who's going down? I guess Not Chara could do it, but it'll look pretty bad after the suicide.

Hm hm hm maybe it's kill Tayl0r time. But then who will be around to flop around my ears? It's really fun ;﹏;
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:34 pm

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For the record, I would be perfectly happy to flop your ears
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:17 am

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In post 2266, Prism wrote:This is really minor Krazy but questioning you about your Hectic progression seems to make sense, as 1561 appears to imply that some parts of Hectic's game are scummy.
Actually you might be right, that point might have been more confusion
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