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Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:54 am**

In post 2248, Akarin wrote:It's a 2 vote difference. Don't make it sound impossible.

I said it was unlikely not impossible.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:54 am**

In post 2174, Akarin wrote:
Vote Haschel: if he's town it's no worse than a No Elim, and maybe he's scum.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:59 am**

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Haschel
I'll be back a few hours before deadline.
It feels like BM isn't going to happen and I'm kind of not really sure why that is?
But I can vote haschel.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:02 am**

Lead wagon, woooooooooooo

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:05 am**

VoteCount 1.61

Haschel Cedricson [4]

Akarin taly gamma emerald blitzo

titus [3]

haschel cedricson pookythemagicalbear battle mage

MURDERCAT [3]

outworldER xRECKONERx thegoldenparadox

Battle Mage [2]

DrippingGoofball titus

thegoldenparadox [2]

murdercat alisae

sircakez [1]

bell

no elim [1]

sircakez

Not Voting [1]

flea the magician

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:06 am**

In post 2251, Akarin wrote:
In post 2174, Akarin wrote:
Vote Haschel: if he's town it's no worse than a No Elim, and maybe he's scum.

i dont understand this shade. HC has probably been one of the better players today. Is there some personal issue between you both?

Re-reading his ISO, where he mostly picks holes in Titus, who you are cheerleading for... I'm not that excited about flipping him.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:15 am**

I like this BM post.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 am**

VOTE: Titus

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 am**

Rereading from page ~53 for about 10 pages or so

Spoiler:

In post 1302, Battle Mage wrote:i'm on board

VOTE: blitzo

BM had a chance to put Titus at 3 if he wanted to form a CW earlier. In his iso there is some shade towards Titus, so I guess it is possible they are scum together and so Blitzo was the first real shot at a CW, but of course they cross vote later so maybe this falls apart.

In post 1308, Taly wrote:also

i think this is the first time
Battle Mage
does not sus me in a game LMAO

does scum-
BM
really give
Flea
the benefit of the doubt here? 1296

Taly points out this post, which I think could still come from scum BM if Flea is town.

In post 1345, Akarin wrote:Oh, I figured out why I'm townreading TGP, and I'm not going to say.

Note to self to see if this was resolved, and ask about it if not.

There's a lot of stuff in here that is not really relevant to the main wagons, so I'm ignoring it. Maybe I am too high on Bell though.

In post 1406, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Haschel Cedricson

I'm going to need more than 13 posts.

Not related to the main wagons, but relevant to the present, so putting it here. I think there was an argument that DGB is voting popular wagons but so far I saw this and a vote for Taly.

In post 1418, Titus wrote:Alright, it seems like we finally have a consensus to be dumb. I'm not going to stop the dumbness so I might as well make the best of it.

VOTE: Battle Mage

What to make of this. Is Titus/BM really TvT? I don't think it's SvS because Titus can just ride out the no elim plan. BM really sold me on how he approached me after my wagon so I guess if it's TvS I might lean more towards Titus. Hard to tell though.

In post 1425, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Titus

Haschel, you with me?

This is kinda weird considering the previous vote.

In post 1442, Flea The Magician wrote:V E R D I C T
VOTE: Titus
I can't shift the bad feeling

I still don't think this is justified.

In post 1460, Bell wrote:This wagon feels gross now. /:

UNVOTE:

Still like Bell for this, though it's a bit weird because his vote was so old. Maybe DGB and Flea scum together?

In post 1472, Akarin wrote:VOTE: Flea

Your words don't match your spew

I like that Ali and Akarin are both converging here.

In post 1484, Flea The Magician wrote:UNVOTE: Titus for now while I reassess my mental state and my paranoia levels {]( ^_^;)[}

Maybe a weird reaction to the pressure??

In post 1488, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: Reck

Feels the Titus wagon going and wants to park somewhere else? Why Reck though.

In post 1492, DrippingGoofball wrote:You're right

VOTE: Titus

I remember thinking this was weird but not really anywhere with it. Still not sure what to make of it.

In post 1495, TheGoldenParadox wrote:so i know i've voted blitzo already but VOTE: blitzo to hammer the point home - this is scum.

In post 1497, Titus wrote:VOTE: Blitzo

I can sheep that.

Sorry for those of you who don't like my VLA. I'm rarely around Friday nights and Saturdays. You can see it in my site history.

If I get miseliminated for voting scum and having a life, I can live with that. We still should be no executing though. If we do miseliminate, I'm objectively the best one. So like I said, no hard feelings.

TGP/Titus is another potential scum pair I think.

Ok I think that was all I wanted to get out of that. I feel like there's a world where Flea/DGB are scum together and another world where Titus/TGP are scum together.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 am**

I will read HC's iso because it is short.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:22 am**

In post 1857, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Titus and Flea also good candidates for scum.

In post 1887, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Flea, straight-up, do you think DGB is scum?

Who is HC scum with? BM seems like the only option

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:22 am**

In post 2258, MURDERCAT wrote:I feel like there's a world where Flea/DGB are scum together and another world where Titus/TGP are scum together.

my first true solve this game was that both of these realities existed simultaneously.

and yes, i did think this was mostly through

flea/dgb

and

titus/tgp

potential associations.

i also agree and sympathize with

BM's

2255 but im not acting off that at the moment.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:23 am**

In post 2251, Akarin wrote:
In post 2174, Akarin wrote:
Vote Haschel: if he's town it's no worse than a No Elim, and maybe he's scum.

It's 1 less body when talking about elo numbers, so hard disagree

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 am**

In post 2224, Battle Mage wrote:Cakez are you coming to Electrical?

depends if MC dies or not

In post 2225, Akarin wrote:
In post 2206, SirCakez wrote:how was I involved in this other than moving to no elim? (which I've been saying the whole game I wanted)
The timing of your move back to No Elim.

ok fine

In post 2229, Taly wrote:last bit

cakez
vote someone, if we no lim it might as well be because we run out of time.

i still think a lim can be pulled off on more than one slot, contrary to
BM
.

I want a no lim, as I've said...

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 am**

Haschel is not a bad elim but also like we've discussed the merits of no elim a lot here

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 am**

In post 2255, Battle Mage wrote:i dont understand this shade. HC has probably been one of the better players today. Is there some personal issue between you both?

Shade? That's an interesting way of putting it.

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 am**

Are we going to reactor together cake? Assuming I'm alive tonight?

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:27 am**

in Akarin's plan we were going to Comms which is fine with me

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:28 am**

who wants to go to weapons with me
I feel like my task gets harder as the game goes on and more pages crop up

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:29 am**

That's the worse post restriction, but sure. We have a 3rd right?

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:30 am**

In post 2260, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1857, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Titus and Flea also good candidates for scum.

In post 1887, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Flea, straight-up, do you think DGB is scum?
Who is HC scum with? BM seems like the only option

well in that case, HC must be town!

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:30 am**

In post 2255, Battle Mage wrote:i dont understand this shade. HC has probably been one of the better players today. Is there some personal issue between you both?

Re-reading his ISO, where he mostly picks holes in Titus, who you are cheerleading for... I'm not that excited about flipping him

I take it you didn't read 2186 or 2187?

And the other thing is a mechanical reason: Haschel has committed to being a bonus NK this game if he's town. We lose nothing by miseliminating him, but if he's scum we're going to have to spend a day voting to flip him at some point and there's benefit to doing it now.

Also, are you somehow unclear of my feelings on the Titus wagon?

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:30 am**

Also I read Akarin and Taly's posts on HC again, so I guess the question is if HC is bussing Titus. BM, what do you make of that? You dislike Titus as well right?

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:30 am**

In post 2256, DrippingGoofball wrote:I like this BM post.

What did you like about it?

Posted: **Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:31 am**

In post 2271, Akarin wrote:And the other thing is a mechanical reason: Haschel has committed to being a bonus NK this game if he's town.

This is how we potentially end up with 3 dead though.

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