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In post 2247, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, I need to double-check something because I think there's evidence that Luca is scum in the mech side of things.

So about this. ejji whined a bit in the neighborhood about his Luca block he claimed being a potential mistake. Lo and behold frogster died that night (and on that, I probably would have NKed joqiza first as his reads were never as open as frogster's I feel). And then, following that, ejji instantly retracts his claim, which results in Luca pitching a massive fit about "how anti-town ejji was" despite trusting ejji completely prior to that. Luca probably was banking on the fact he knew he couldn't have actually been blocked as proof ejji's role was false, but hoped he'd maintain the ruse one more day in order to get through that dayphase without getting limmed.

The Frogster kill makes way more sense from Gamma than me.

Gamma KNEW ejj was BS'ing about their claim, I didn't. Frogster hard-TR me more than anyone else in the game.

And yes I trusted ejj prior to that, because they claimed RB? Which meant they were either Town or scum that couldn't win. I didn't consider they might be town lying about their role.

and so you wanted ejji eliminated D5 WHY?
Yeah no, you've caught yourself in your own web of lies.

And if I wanted to kill people for confident reads I would have actually killed ejji N4, as his reads D4 were unshakeable.

And yeah, ejj's play was massively anti-town, and we're seeing the after-effects of that now.

And ejj consulted you about their plan to fake-claim, and you didn't dissuade them from it. You have enough experience to know how bad their plan was.

In post 2252, Gamma Emerald wrote:and so you wanted ejji eliminated D5 WHY?

Because I thought ejj was likely scum.

I'm not informed, unlike you, so it isn't so easy to separate lying town from lying scum.

on one side you're saying ejji's play was anti-town and he HAD to be limmed for it
on the other you state him lying as town never came to your mind

it's a pile of lies!

It never came to my mind on D4, no.

I obviously considered it D5, but I felt that scum!ejj would have to lie in that position, whereas town!ejj wouldn't have.

And I stand by it that they were objectively the correct elim Yesterday. You don't bring slots like that to LYLO.

In post 2254, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 2252, Gamma Emerald wrote:and so you wanted ejji eliminated D5 WHY?

Because I thought ejj was likely scum.

I'm not informed, unlike you, so it isn't so easy to separate lying town from lying scum.

So why the hell was there no shred of doubt from you D4? The way you've moved from day to day in this game, specifically these last few, has been atrocious. You went after Galron D3, who had claimed PR, and hadn't given his N2 result until I had to badger him for it (which with bugs being scum you would've known), then went for OWER D4 with blind trust in ejji's claim, then pitched a fit about how anti-town ejji was while trying to absolve yourself of the miselim you were just on.
That isn't town play.

In post 2256, Luca Blight wrote:It never came to my mind on D4, no.

I obviously considered it D5, but I felt that scum!ejj would have to lie in that position, whereas town!ejj wouldn't have.

And I stand by it that they were objectively the correct elim Yesterday. You don't bring slots like that to LYLO.

Remind me what your stance on BBMolla was during that large normal?

Good night.

I've already explained why - ejj was either Town RB or scum with no chance of winning fmpov.

I went after Galron on the condition that he was Bugs' partner. So why would I waste my time casing Galron as Bugs' partner, only to kill Galron after Bugs is eliminated?

It wasn't just me who trusted ejj, every confirmed town player had the same mindset as me, so stop trying to twist it to suit your narrative.

In post 2258, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2256, Luca Blight wrote:It never came to my mind on D4, no.

I obviously considered it D5, but I felt that scum!ejj would have to lie in that position, whereas town!ejj wouldn't have.

And I stand by it that they were objectively the correct elim Yesterday. You don't bring slots like that to LYLO.

Remind me what your stance on BBMolla was during that large normal?

This is disingenuous.

We eliminated two scum in a row, and then it turned out there was also a SK. I certainly didn't intend to bring BBMolla to LYLO, it just happened that way.

You're literally throwing shit and seeing what sticks.

This is me not hammering. Reading up now.

I want to vote Luca for the Hammer and I want to vote Gamma for wanting to kill Luca suddenly.

Persuade me.

How was the hammer scum-indicative? I didn’t see your intent to hammer, and another 24 hours would have made absolutely no difference.

I’ll summarize the case against Gamma when I’m on the laptop.

In post 2264, Lunar Martian wrote:I want to vote Luca for the Hammer and I want to vote Gamma for wanting to kill Luca suddenly.

Persuade me.

I feel like there’s nothing distinct between your play here and my completed games with you, you were town in those so I’m thinking you’re probably town here
Plus I got a vibe from Luca that when looked into made it apparent his play is meant to get him from day to day.

Think I'm voting luca.

Why?

In post 2268, Luca Blight wrote:Why?

Either because I think you're Mafia or because I'm trying to gamethrow.

Can you at least engage me on why you think I’m Mafia.

In post 2270, Luca Blight wrote:Can you at least engage me on why you think I’m Mafia.

The hammer was really bad. Like why hammer without stating intent? A few of your votes have had questionable timing. The day 1 slowplay of the hammer, etc. Gamma's voting history is way worse and more incriminating. But I'm going to struggle to get past that hammer.

There is no need to leave intent when the player has claimed, the consensus that they should be eliminated has been reached and everyone has said what they wanted to say. I’ve hammered like that plenty of times as Town, if you want to see?

And what benefit as scum do I get from that? What benefit would I get from not declaring intent in this situation?

You shut down discussion. I was waiting for Ejji to post. The fact that you didn't notice my intent means you weren't reading carefully, too, which is scum-indicative since scum don't have to read as carefully.

Lunar, you should know that’s BS given you’ve read less carefully than anyone this game, to the point you didn’t even know Joq was conftown.

Scum are way more careful than Town around votes and hammers.