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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:24 am
by flow trap
In post 2249, DkKoba wrote:
Weird - a vig doc with whats essentially a flipped cop?
That doesnt make sense.
That was a joke and a combined vig doc is essentially a visitor
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:29 am
by Elsa Jay
Koba doesn't get your comedy Flow. That deserves a vote obviously.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:30 am
by DkKoba
In post 2250, flow trap wrote: In post 2249, DkKoba wrote:
Weird - a vig doc with whats essentially a flipped cop?
That doesnt make sense.
That was a joke and a combined vig doc is essentially a visitor
No - its essentially a doc and the difference matters since it would have been egregious setup balance
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:32 am
by DkKoba
Flow - what PR did you think i softed d2?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:33 am
by flow trap
In post 2252, DkKoba wrote: In post 2250, flow trap wrote: In post 2249, DkKoba wrote:
Weird - a vig doc with whats essentially a flipped cop?
That doesnt make sense.
That was a joke and a combined vig doc is essentially a visitor
No - its essentially a doc and the difference matters since it would have been egregious setup balance
I would pierce my own Protection
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:34 am
by flow trap
Honestly, I was expecting you to be PGO and just get rid of all the suspicious PR peeps
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:35 am
by flow trap
In post 2255, flow trap wrote:
Honestly, I was expecting you to be PGO and just get rid of all the suspicious PR peeps
Or test if kitty was RV actually
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:35 am
by Elsa Jay
I'll be honest I also thought PGO so I avoided it like the plague.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:37 am
by flow trap
Or reflexive watcher or something
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:40 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 2252, DkKoba wrote: In post 2250, flow trap wrote: In post 2249, DkKoba wrote:
Weird - a vig doc with whats essentially a flipped cop?
That doesnt make sense.
That was a joke and a combined vig doc is essentially a visitor
No - its essentially a doc and the difference matters since it would have been egregious setup balance
No - Doctors only block one kill
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:41 am
by Elsa Jay
A reflexive watcher who wanted to be Roleblocked.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:44 am
by flow trap
I thought reflexive was passive
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:54 am
by UNOwen
In post 2245, Elsa Jay wrote:Well global multitask on is non-normal still so they have to have the modifier itself. And while normally I think they would have it in this case with me around along with a Personal Tracker being unable to track a Mafia kill it's safe to say they don't got it.
Personal tracker being able to track standard mafia night action but not kill from same player seems plausible to me? Even then though, since neither you or Anya were blocked/killed if you are town scum must've believed they could play around your night actions. So a mafia PR killing so that the goon gets a chance at being "cleared" would make sense (especially since it was clear we were heading for a massclaim anyway). Setup speculation is not something I'm great at so maybe this is obvious but it seems like you're stacking too many assumptions to be confident.
Why did you out that you were a PR in the first place?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:58 am
by Elsa Jay
Well first it was because everyone was on you Owen. Then suddenly everyone put me to E1 to get a full claim.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:05 am
by Elsa Jay
If I'm not confident I second guess my reads on you and NotMaf. Frankly I'll stick with my speculating since it feels right too me so.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:05 am
by UNOwen
They weren't though? The only player actually pushing me as scum was mozamis, and he wasn't even voting me. It's good to defend someone you have a clear on but I didn't think I was even close to being in danger when you intervened.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:13 am
by Elsa Jay
It was more a preventing measure to also focus solving on other slots. Then I just outted and helped me in directing the game.
Besides, for some reason after I did that Kitty claimed Roleblocker and pushed me up. So yeah I dunno what else I would've done there but I think I made the right call.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:22 am
by Anya
the goat forgot he was supposed to be convinced i was wolf
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:27 am
by UNOwen
In post 2266, Elsa Jay wrote:It was more a preventing measure to also focus solving on other slots. Then I just outted and helped me in directing the game.
Besides, for some reason after I did that Kitty claimed Roleblocker and pushed me up. So yeah I dunno what else I would've done there but I think I made the right call.
Wouldn't it have been helpful to solving to allow a wagon to potentially form on me and see how other players interact with it? Then you'd only need to out if it looked like I was actually going to be executed.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:47 am
by UNOwen
This is a reasonable way to defend someone you have a clear on without outing:
In post 1267, Elsa Jay wrote:
I wanna say Moz but that's me playing favorites. Owen so far doesn't seem to have an agenda so I'll trust him for now.
This is a claim:
In post 1448, Elsa Jay wrote:
Also, I encourage we go for someone besides Owen today. Call it a hunch.
There were no votes against me at the time of the second post, it doesn't make sense for Elsa to out. One explanation is that it had less to do with removing me from the suspect pool and more to do with these posts from flow trap:
So Elsa thought flow trap had a track result against him, and decided that by hinting at a result he could both gain flow traps trust and position himself as an ambiguous town PR going forward. I think town Elsa is more likely to continue to keep his PR hidden until it's actually necessary to claim.
But then I might just be completely wrong and making connections that don't exist. That is possible.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:51 am
by Elsa Jay
If I thought Flow was a tracker who tracked me then I wouldn't have worried at all cuz they only would've seen me visit you? I'd have no reason to panic.
It's more along the fact after Flow called me out for staying quiet that I got more proactive in my plays.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:54 am
by esotericzoomer
wait koba you're telling me all this pr soft shit was fake and your reason for getting prs on you was to both confirm yourself as vt AND redirect kitty 'just in case he roleblocks another pr'?
the fuck?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:57 am
by esotericzoomer
VOTE: Not_Mafia
i see a lot of people including him in 'possible mafia' but no one is at all trying to make his wagon a thing
happy birthday btw
koba v elsa reads tvt
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:57 am
by UNOwen
In post 2270, Elsa Jay wrote:If I thought Flow was a tracker who tracked me then I wouldn't have worried at all cuz they only would've seen me visit you? I'd have no reason to panic.
It's more along the fact after Flow called me out for staying quiet that I got more proactive in my plays.
Wouldn't mean that you panicked, just that you saw they were pressing for a claim and used it as an opportunity to position yourself better.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:05 am
by esotericzoomer
there is absolutely a world where koba just flips scum ftr
