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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:22 pm
by the 2 mastinas
mastina here!
In post 1909, Gypyx wrote:
Once during the game, you may anonymously put to reward a 1-shot Bulletproof vest to whoever hammers a player of your choice


You win if one person from both these 2 groups gets executed while you are still alive [REDACTED / REDACTED] and [REDACTED / REDACTED] if you succeed, you will leave the game in a victory
Btw I very strongly believe that NDMath
did
have names here.

If you viewed the second half of the role PM in isolation, it'd make sense for it to be plausible that NDMath had no names, just factions, divided into four different factions into two different groups.

...However, the thing that makes me think otherwise is that you can't view the second half of the role PM in isolation; you must account for the
first
half.

Why would NDMath be able to, without knowing who he was meant to target, anonymously incentivize an elimination on a target? He'd have no way of knowing if using this would actually further his wincon.

In contrast, if NDMath had four names, then it'd make a LOT of sense for him to have the ability to eliminate someone.
In post 1561, NDMath wrote:I am a 'Purely Cleric'.
Each night I investigate if a player can use dark magic, defined as magic involving the dead, curses, or controlled by antitown.
N1 I checked Taroumaru because they seemed to be a universal nullread and got that they couldn't.
In post 1636, NDMath wrote:I'm opposed to tarou lim because killing my inno just seems wrong.
Of Yuki and Enchant I prefer Yuki because I think Enchant has been alright today, whereas Yuki didn't leave much impression on me day1 and has a poor day2.
VOTE: Yuki
I believe that NDMath's here was not actually 100% bullshit, either.
In post 528, NDMath wrote:VOTE: Dragon of the West
In post 844, NDMath wrote:VOTE: DotW
There you go.
In post 1005, NDMath wrote:
Am feeling better about Taroumaru despite their lackluster iso.
I don't think they can be w/w with Yuki either.


Morning Tweet also has a very strong entrance.
Although I'm not following why you're townreading rat.
In post 1223, NDMath wrote:1. RadicalRat
2. Enchant
3. PookyTheMagicalBear
4. Yuki
(snipping irrelevance)
9. Taroumaru
In post 1911, Gypyx wrote:
Taroumaru has died, he was...
(recovered section vvv)
I believe that NDMath's list was [Dragon, Taro] and [???, ???].
I believe the scum figured this out after NDMath's flip.
And then they chose to shoot Taro specifically because of NDMath's flip and hints.
Why would they do that?

Because I believe that NDMath
did
have scum names...in the
other
half.

So it then becomes important to speculate--who were the other two?

Well I've got some fairly good ideas.

(Sorry, this^^^ is the section I lost, I said this better the first time, explained it better, but *shrug*, accidental tab close when you have something smaller you intend to copy over into your post, on your big post, copied instead of the big post, will do that to you when the recovered form is only a partial recovery.)
In post 381, NDMath wrote:imo the unwnd/rat interaction looks good for unwnd and
meh for rat
.
In post 636, NDMath wrote:RR's beliefs towards dwlee's and Mega's claims are still rather eerie to me.
In post 749, NDMath wrote:VOTE: RR
I definitely prefer this to A50.
In post 811, NDMath wrote:Am feeling better about the Ari vote than I was earlier but
still would prefer RR
.
In post 1005, NDMath wrote:Am feeling better about Taroumaru despite their lackluster iso.
I don't think they can be w/w with Yuki either
.

Although
I'm not following why you're townreading rat
.
In post 1223, NDMath wrote:1. RadicalRat
3. PookyTheMagicalBear
4. Yuki
In post 1253, NDMath wrote:
Still prefer RR
as in I'm not switching my vote from RR to Ari.
In post 1462, NDMath wrote:@A50, What's your read on Yuki? You've been voting with them a lot and I'm confused why you sheeped them here to vote Titus.
In post 1463, NDMath wrote:@pooky, when you get to your list thing can you also elaborate on most of your reads? They're very different from those of most of this game (perhaps fresh set of eyes, etc).
In post 1506, NDMath wrote:VOTE: Pooky
ISO is half a poor attempt at running a GtH with IioA on results, and most of the rest is fluff.
In post 1519, NDMath wrote:I think town!pooky would be more readable than he is right now.

Idk, I guess I'm just frustrated at this point. I also don't understand what the townreads on him are for.
In post 1636, NDMath wrote:I'm opposed to tarou lim because killing my inno just seems wrong.
Of Yuki and Enchant
I prefer Yuki
because I think Enchant has been alright today, whereas Yuki didn't leave much impression on me day1 and has a poor day2.
VOTE: Yuki
I realize there's three names for two possible slots, Pooky/RR/Yuki, but I'm
fairly
sure that 2/3 were indeed on NDMath's non-Dragon/Taro list and that there IS scum in there and said scum figured out Taro was conftown from figuring out NDMath's role and iso and NDMath's push on Dragon D1. RR is probably one name, the only question is if the second was Yuki or Pooky.

I overall lean towards Yuki being the second.

With RR as conftown, that means if my theory is valid, then that Yuki would be scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:24 pm
by the 2 mastinas
In post 2249, Morning Tweet wrote:You know if you would sign your posts it'd be a lot less confusing
Well to be blunt.

If y'all can't tell the difference between PIRATE MOLLIE and MASTINA.

You frankly don't deserve to. :P

'Cause pirate mollie and I have literally diametrically opposite posting styles.

mollie uses mostly lowercase and often doesn't use proper punctuation; I exclusively use exact grammar/punctuation/etc. with sentences properly capitalized and such. mollie tends to make shorter posts that are succinct, direct, and to the point; my posts...aren't. mollie's emotes tend to be from offsite; my emotes tend to be exclusively ' :P '.

So like.

If you can't tell the difference between pirate mollie and me.

You frankly don't deserve to.

(I literally speak entirely differently to mollie, not to mention, post at different times, too.)

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:26 pm
by Morning Tweet
you might speak entirely different but I haven't played with mollie before soo I can't really help it. In general I am not good with identifying people on a hydra unless I know them well. My point is just you shouldn't give people shit for not knowing, it can be pretty tricky for some

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:29 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 2223, Almost50 wrote:Then VOTE ME first
^ if you're going to disregard an innocent then like yeah

*forehead rub*

i............... dont care what we do as much right now. Worstie and Yuki are literally both fine. worstie i think is scummier but really only because yuki has self meta and worsti sort of kinda dropped out out of nowhere

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:48 pm
by Enchant
VOTE: Yuki

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:49 pm
by Almost50
In post 2239, Enchant wrote:I am sceptical of so many investigative. Especially about Death Knight, who is evil sounding enough, but scum probably would't call self that.
I am sceptical about vig claim who claimed after being accused being able to kill or protect.
I am sceptical Dwlee99 received "RR is conftown" from mod and realising it just now.
I can ALL of these!

1- GYPYX IS TROLLING US. The Town Role PMs used RED font. The flavour name I received sounds pretty much scummy. That's why I also thought Ari's name was probably Town.

2- Gamma claimed before I did. I only said I had a soft guitly on him, but didn't specify how.

3- I can confirm the mod forgot to send ME the result on Gamma until I reminded him to. I'm assuming the same happened with Dwlee.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:55 pm
by Enchant
Oh very well then.

Vote Yuki?

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:59 pm
by Yuki Takeya
VOTE: the worst

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 pm
by Yuki Takeya
Also, I am not scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:04 pm
by Almost50
In post 2256, Enchant wrote:Vote Yuki?
No. I'm on the duck train, but thanks for the offer.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:05 pm
by Radical Rat
Mastina, why would NDMath claim a kinda sorta inno on Tarou if it were one of his targets?

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:23 pm
by Radical Rat
In post 2258, Yuki Takeya wrote:Also, I am not scum.
Quick, what color is your role PM

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:36 pm
by Yuki Takeya
Reddish.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:38 pm
by Radical Rat
Damn, you're either telling the truth or paying too much attention.

While you're here though, do you really have no thoughts at all about the game? I know you said "reads are for tryhards" but surely you must have at least one opinion about Something, right?

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:40 pm
by Yuki Takeya
Eh, I don't. I am feeling very tired these days.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:47 pm
by Dwlee99
How tf would scum have figured out Ndmath's role...

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:49 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2239, Enchant wrote:I am sceptical of so many investigative. Especially about Death Knight, who is evil sounding enough, but scum probably would't call self that.
I am sceptical about vig claim who claimed after being accused being able to kill or protect.
I am sceptical Dwlee99 received "RR is conftown" from mod and realising it just now.
I once missed a cult conversion PM and hammered the cult leader which caused me to suicide

But also I don't feel comfortable elaborating further on me missing it because I don't want to bring outside influence into the game

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:56 pm
by Radical Rat
Yuki Takeya wrote:Eh, I don't. I am feeling very tired these days.
Well, I'm afraid you're probably going to die then. I'd really recommend you at least try to read today and come up with something, we're getting to a point where we can't really afford to just do nothing.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:02 am
by Yuki Takeya
I agree that the worst is scum. Does that count as 'doing something'?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:26 am
by Enchant
In post 2268, Yuki Takeya wrote:I agree that the worst is scum. Does that count as 'doing something'?
Why you think worst is scum?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:50 am
by Titus
I don't think scum aware if NDMath's list shoot on it. That just would cause NDMath to tunnel them.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:51 am
by Titus
VOTE: Yuki

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:52 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: The worst

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:52 am
by Dwlee99
Wait I have to be hammer
UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:53 am
by Titus
In post 2238, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:do you have results or something?
Read nerfed to hell. Starts after night 2. That's one of my nerfs. The other I am only announcing after a guilty. (Innos unaffected).