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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:14 am
by Menalque
Idk what to add

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:16 am
by Menalque
Am also worried atp that if it’s skitter or ari then all they care about is that there’s some sort of t/t conflict between me, datisi, and bloodhail and that’s why they’re now both open to datisi

But ari and skitter can’t both be scum, I think, so evidently one of them at minimum is genuinely seeing something

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:16 am
by Aristeia
why do you townread datisi?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:17 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2240, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm willing to do Mena still if that's an option but I dunno if theres enough desire there and I just don't know if I'm just wrong even though I agree with your points
i also agree with ari's points and was feeling similarly and would also be willing to vote mena

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:18 am
by Menalque
Idk at this point, I know I did earlier when I was reading his ISO in like D1 and skimmed again in D2 once I got back to town so I’m mostly trusting my prior self

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:27 am
by Menalque
If I get limmed for lack of presence then so be it, but there’s a reason why I and many others choose to play on mafiascum(dot)net and that’s because the deadlines are reasonable and allow the chance to play while having other stuff going on

I’m heading off now, I might be around again right before deadline if needed, but I probably won’t be

I’m not going to be any townier than I was the other night during today, but I think I was very town there

If I am limmed because you (general you) think that it’s scummy that I’m not around, I only ask that you remember this game in future and learn from it

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:28 am
by Menalque
I would probably CFD ari but I don’t think there are the votes among those around

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:30 am
by Aristeia
? I'm not scumreading you for presence, I'm scumreading that you seemed to stop caring about flipping bloodhail as soon as the 1v1 moved to a different person.

that's not the same thing

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:32 am
by Aristeia
what is CFD?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:33 am
by Menalque
I don’t understand how you’re disentangling lack of presence from lack of caring

How am I going to demonstrate either way that I care/don’t care if I’m not here

My posts when I did briefly enter were to acknowledge presence in thread but also I could see that there were a load of new posts and I’ve already explained why I’m struggling to grapple with them

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:34 am
by Menalque
Chinese Fire Drill — a quick wagon at the end of a day

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:36 am
by Aristeia
In post 2259, Menalque wrote:I don’t understand how you’re disentangling lack of presence from lack of caring

How am I going to demonstrate either way that I care/don’t care if I’m not here

My posts when I did briefly enter were to acknowledge presence in thread but also I could see that there were a load of new posts and I’ve already explained why I’m struggling to grapple with them
because if you deeply care about flipping irrel/blood hail and you are actually sure that slot is mafia;

it takes roughly 1 minute to log in and say "I want to flip bloodhail/irrel they are scum" [that's caring about the flip without presence]

and I'm assuming you do deeply care about flipping that slot over Datisi's slot since Datisi was your top townread and you were willing to BoP yourself to flip Elephant Guy.

Even popping in to say I'm not sure anymore is still expressing an opinion.

You popped in and basically said nothing

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:37 am
by Aristeia
In post 2260, Menalque wrote:Chinese Fire Drill — a quick wagon at the end of a day
I have a hard time believing you actually think I'm scum and doing this shit at EOD when blood hail vs datisi is t-t.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:37 am
by Aristeia
like I know you're an omgusser by nature but that's a little too fucking far for me to believe

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:38 am
by Menalque
I don’t see how those points aren’t fully addressed by and

Like if I am unsure, even if I have a preference

I am not necessarily immediately going to start going on about it before I’ve had time to think about it and as i was still trying and failing to process what the arguments were I didn’t comment on it

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:39 am
by bloodhail
don't say cfd thanks

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:40 am
by Aristeia
In post 2264, Menalque wrote:I don’t see how those points aren’t fully addressed by and

Like if I am unsure, even if I have a preference

I am not necessarily immediately going to start going on about it before I’ve had time to think about it and as i was still trying and failing to process what the arguments were I didn’t comment on it
yea you said that after I called you out for saying nothing

that doesn't make my initial suspicion of you popping in and saying nothing invalid

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:40 am
by Menalque
You’re attempting to redirect the wagon back towards me for what I think are very poor reasons and if bloodhail is town then you’ve also been fencesitting and allowing a t/t conflict to play out most of the day

I don’t see why you would be doing differently as scum here when you’re not in any danger and the more slots you can keep viable going into D2/D3 the better for you

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:41 am
by Menalque
In post 2265, bloodhail wrote:don't say cfd thanks
?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:41 am
by fireisredsir
VOTE: menalque

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:41 am
by Aristeia
In post 2267, Menalque wrote:You’re attempting to redirect the wagon back towards me for what I think are very poor reasons and if bloodhail is town then you’ve also been fencesitting and allowing a t/t conflict to play out most of the day

I don’t see why you would be doing differently as scum here when you’re not in any danger and the more slots you can keep viable going into D2/D3 the better for you
3 people have said my reasons are very valid and they can't all be scum with me

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:42 am
by bloodhail
In post 2268, Menalque wrote:
In post 2265, bloodhail wrote:don't say cfd thanks
?
it's really racist dude


just use the good old fashioned flashwagon

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:43 am
by Aristeia
it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
by Menalque
In post 2270, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2267, Menalque wrote:You’re attempting to redirect the wagon back towards me for what I think are very poor reasons and if bloodhail is town then you’ve also been fencesitting and allowing a t/t conflict to play out most of the day

I don’t see why you would be doing differently as scum here when you’re not in any danger and the more slots you can keep viable going into D2/D3 the better for you
3 people have said my reasons are very valid and they can't all be scum with me
People being wrong, especially when one of those people, if town, has been tunnelled on me for most of the day, is not unexpected
In post 2271, bloodhail wrote:
In post 2268, Menalque wrote:
In post 2265, bloodhail wrote:don't say cfd thanks
?
it's really racist dude


just use the good old fashioned flashwagon
I’m not aware of how but sure, and I guess I’ll look into it

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
by bloodhail
i don't feel comfortable with a wagon lurching back onto menalque here, i really don't, even if his reason for sticking to voting me is kind of blah