xvart wrote:So we know, based on the claims, that there are at least two roleblockers.
Unless there is a third RBer (which I doubt), the N1 actions are very telling. Either one of Andrius, ReaperCharlie, or I is a recruiter and lying about being roleblocked. Chrono isn't the recruiter because he wouldn't claim a RB on me in case I counterclaimed an action that succeeded (unless he and I are on the same team).
I was going to wait until Yos2 claimed, but seeing as he already admitted to being on a cult faction, I don't see the need to wait. The kicker:
I did not get a flavor pm the night chrono roleblocked me and I did get one last night
; and since Flameaxe claimed he got a flavor pm last night after being RBed by Chrono Flamaxe is lying. So Flameaxe and chrono are cult together. So unless we think RecruiterChrono would be so bold to claim a RB on me without knowing that I would counterclaim him or not, he can only be the Recruiter if he recruited a RBer N0 and claimed the RB his minion took; but then the same would be true of Yos2 counterclaiming on N0; unless Yos2 is the other RBer and was recruited N0 by Chrono.
TL;DR
- One of the recruiters is either RC, Andrius, or I. Flameaxe and Chrono are cult together.
UNVOTE:
xvart.
o_O
I call BS.
And why would there be Girl on Girl action N2/D3 Flavour if I wasn't an RB...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:03 pm
by xvart
Porochaz wrote:You haven't claimed as far as I can see. You can wait until yos2 has claimed but now you've revealed what your looking for, is there much point?
By Yos2 claiming I meant claiming whether or not he received a flavor pm or not; since I did not receive one when Chrono blocked me and Flameaxe received one when Chrono blocked him. It doesn't really matter since we know Yos2 is scum; but if he had claimed to have received a flavor pm when Chrono RBed him we (or at least I) would know that the three of them are all on the same faction; but it might have helped narrow down the field for determining faction alignments and cross checking behavior.
xvart.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:14 pm
by xvart
Chronopie, 2275 wrote:o_O
I call BS.
And why would there be Girl on Girl action N2/D3 Flavour if I wasn't an RB...
You call BS on what? I'm not disputing that you are a RBer; in fact I thought I was pretty clear that you were a RBer (although I did speculate under what conditions you might not be a RBer; but I think those speculations are unlikely). I don't have any commentary about the girl on girl action; but that is significantly different than personalized role pms to people that were blocked. Why did Flameaxe get a pm saying he was roleblocked and why did I not receive a pm?
What do you think about my conclusion that one of RC, Andy, or I has to be a recruiter? Why did you not say anything about that since my commentary about you and Flameaxe is independent of the conclusion I drew from the three RB targets on N1?
xvart.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:34 pm
by Flameaxe
Issues regarding N1 results for now, rest later.
I posted this a few pages ago, and it seems to have fallen through the cracks.
Being blocked last night myself, and getting intercourse-style flavor, this may be a good time to address the different flavor received with the failed investigations. Just saying, that might be a good path to go.
From memory, they both (at least andy, correct me here if you didn't get it RC) got a message that they heard a noise and ran before getting an investigation. This doesn't seem like the work of a prostitute targeting either of the two cops. While my own opinions of this lead me to disagree with your [RC, Andy, Xvart] recruiter group, it also leads me to believe the claims we have right now in terms of enforcers. This, in turn, leads me to believe the claimed innocent on Chrono as of right now.
It's also leading tinfoil-y, ReaperCharlie style thoughts in my head that I'm not going to elaborate on as of right now. I know the message I got last night, and I know the flavor it involved. There's nothing more I can add to that.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:35 pm
by Flameaxe
I guess the rest later part tied its way in after all. I need to stop doing that.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:24 pm
by singersigner
ReaperCharlie wrote:Annnndddd.... zwet said absolutely NOTHING about double-voting, even though he claimed vig.
Hey, so the one-shot vig thing should be exclusive to the loose-canon, role. The double-vote was added by Flay for whatever reason, and specified that it would not be shown. The purpose of that was defeated when I claimed that was part of my role, and explained exactly what I was going to do with it. If you guys are still wondering whether it was me or Ooba who put the last vote on Friend, the god help us.
If there's a fourth (third?) loose-canon, I'm willing to bet that Ooba recruited him and got the role name from that, allowing him to claim from that.
aim: Ooba
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:33 pm
by ooba
Here's a thought - Mass roleblock on night one ..
Also zwet quote was a breadcrumb, not a full claim ..
RC, it's relevant because one can still find recruiters due to slips by others. The what/how argument is wrong - you can't back away from what you actually meant by saying "So I phrased it scummy "
Posting from mobile so can't check - can someone see if singersinger was actually on the site when the hammer happened ?
Cause right now the best thing for any team to do is paint t ..heir recruiter as "not a recruiter possibility" .. Have had second thoughts ever since the useless use of the power ..
Also, who was the person who said "singer don't say anything until ooba reveals his future profession"
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:09 am
by Mr. Flay
Porochaz wrote:
mod, is it possible we could get a clarification on the Loose Cannon role?
Unlikely since it's role-related, but what exactly is the question?
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:36 am
by Porochaz
Just what it is beyond a killing role, I cant find it in the wiki. I didn't think it would be likely but seeing as we would know what roles cop/doc/rb'er etc are if you had put them down instead I was hoping for a brief role description.
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:34 am
by xvart
Nevermind about Chrono and Flameaxe; Mr. Flay just pm'ed me and said I was supposed to receive a pm N1 but it was never sent.
xvart.
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:55 am
by Yosarian2
It probably doesn't matter now, but yeah, I did get a PM that I was blocked on night zero.
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:12 pm
by Mr. Flay
Porochaz wrote:
Just what it is beyond a killing role, I cant find it in the wiki. I didn't think it would be likely but seeing as we would know what roles cop/doc/rb'er etc are if you had put them down instead I was hoping for a brief role description.
Nope, sorry. I've been as specific as I care to be about the roles revealed thus far...
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:49 pm
by Lord Gurgi
So yeah, I'd love to see the three suspects smear campaign eachother. Seeing something from Katsuki would be grand too. I don't have much else at the moment.
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:28 pm
by Katsuki
Disclaimer: If I can not get caught up in this game before the weekend is over, I will be requesting replacement.
Need to get this out there first.
One major question: Are andrius and RC ACTUALLY confirmed? Or is it one of those self-"OH HAI THERE I ARE COP ME CONFIRMED HURR MA BUDDY RC BE CONFIRMING ME TOO" things?
Same with chronopie I guess.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:58 am
by Porochaz
Andrius essentially is and is a cop, from my look into the game, Id say he's still town just now based on the fact we have had a cult doc protecting him.
RC is confirmed as well through Andrius, but that was N0, what we can say is he's not a recruiter beyond that meh.
Chrono is a roleblocker. His alignment could really be either.
None of them are recruiter.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:43 am
by Flameaxe
Katsuki wrote:
Disclaimer: If I can not get caught up in this game before the weekend is over, I will be requesting replacement.
Need to get this out there first.
One major question: Are andrius and RC ACTUALLY confirmed? Or is it one of those self-"OH HAI THERE I ARE COP ME CONFIRMED HURR MA BUDDY RC BE CONFIRMING ME TOO" things?
Same with chronopie I guess.
Confirmed is a fickle term in this game. They're both claimed cops, yes. Alignment is up in the air though. RC was investigated innocent on N0, that could change. This is the same as prozac said except: Chrono was investigated by RC with an innocent result last night. There is another RB somewhere due to girl-on-girl flavor in night two.
As for reading, no one seems to have given you this like they did for me: Day one is a headache of a read, it might be easier, and quicker, to at least start from day two onward. You can generally pick up on who claimed what from that point as well. Good luck with the read.
As for my vote...
Aim: Erg0
. Hasn't really moved on my list as of right now. Xvart is probably number two right now. Probably followed by Katsuki/inhim.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:34 am
by Robocopter87
Ummm, can we stop using the term RC for ReaperCharlie. You guys are confusing the crap out of me.
Do you mean I am confirmed or reaper?
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:37 am
by gandalf5166
I don't think that anyone, this entire game, has called you RC. Pretty sure that you're referred to by pretty much everyone as Robo.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:45 am
by gandalf5166
Also, I too am disappointed by the lack of a mason recruiter. In fact, when Flay said there would be multiple recruiters, I assumed that he said multiple because one of them would be a mason. :/
Aim:Erg0
Lurking to victory isn't going to work, brudda.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:14 am
by Robocopter87
gandalf5166 wrote:I don't think that anyone, this entire game, has called you RC. Pretty sure that you're referred to by pretty much everyone as Robo.
Yea, this is true.
But I just am constantly thinking that people are talking to me when they say RC.
Sorry.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:43 am
by Chronopie
I remember a similar discussion about RC/Robo in another game.
I'm keeping my vote on Erg0 at this time.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:03 pm
by Robocopter87
Chronopie wrote:I remember a similar discussion about RC/Robo in another game.
Dont remind me
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:20 am
by Flameaxe
Robocopter87 wrote:
Chronopie wrote:I remember a similar discussion about RC/Robo in another game.
Dont remind me
Not to be a pest or anything...
But is anyone scummy to you yet? I might as well keep up my trend of asking.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:43 am
by Andrius
Katsuki, you fail. Don't replace in unless you're willing to catchup.
Moar Erg0 votes please.
And can we cut the crap on the setup speculation? Flay won't answer any questions, and ooba is only further scummifying himself by arguing for a mass-RBer.
SRSLY.
WE ARE HERE TO LYNCH SCUM RECRUITERS, NOT SETUP SPECULATE. ITS DAY 4 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:09 pm
by Porochaz
Andrius wrote:Katsuki, you fail. Don't replace in unless you're willing to catchup.
Moar Erg0 votes please.
And can we cut the crap on the setup speculation? Flay won't answer any questions, and ooba is only further scummifying himself by arguing for a mass-RBer.
SRSLY.
WE ARE HERE TO LYNCH SCUM RECRUITERS, NOT SETUP SPECULATE. ITS DAY 4 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
I initially thought this way too. However making sure we are good with the setup narrows down the suspects considerably.
Dont remind me