Well we'd really rather lynch the last scum today given the dead thread vig shot is uhhh.... unreliable so far given scum managed to use it on obvtown last night.
most of our hydra thinks pine is the probable last scum, the worst thinks your slot is last scum
-Kat
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:50 pm
by FakeGod
what the living fuck is that post
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:52 pm
by Arkham Asylum
he's saying jjh faked a scumslip to get the dead thread vig shot to get off your slot and instead shoot mastina (who has been obvtown all game), and scumclaimed (again) by coordinating a "hammer" on the vig shot at deadline when town got confused
-Kat
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:58 pm
by FakeGod
are you serious
scum should try to get a scum lynch on d1 to solo control the dead pt vig in that case
this setup doesn't make any sense lol
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:00 pm
by Arkham Asylum
In post 2157, OSTENTATIOUS wrote:FL says he doesn't know but you can bring up the Last Knight Tomorrow
this does functionally confirm that worst has access to the dead thread to me, although it wasn't as direct of a confirmation as I would have liked
anyway, given the missing vote I don't have a better explanation than stump for duck, and from votes anyway we've already confirmed there's not 2 scum left alive I think.
scum should try to get a scum lynch on d1 to solo control the dead pt vig in that case
this setup doesn't make any sense lol
Given there was no vig n1, I'm thinking? scum DEB was prevented from using it as the solo dead player at the time
although I don't know if there was ever confirmation that the vig shot was gated mechanically or what
honestly duck could go into a bit more detail about some of the dead thread stuff
-kat
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:07 pm
by FakeGod
well, if the dead pt vig doesn't work tonight, then presumably we have another lynch, right?
I guess none of this really matters much since there are 3 slots to purge, we will get rid of two one way or another, and other two slots wants my slot dead
sure, I am willing to vote chick or pine but I don't see how we get a lynch to go through except mine, seeing that pine and chick are both voting me
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:12 pm
by Arkham Asylum
If duck is stumped, then right now he is only "in the game" but not a voting player, i.e. currently we are at 4, so a lynch + nightkill puts us to 2 and thus this is mylo. He can clarify his role though if he wants, he hasn't put it as directly as that yet I don't think.
If the dead thread vig shot goes off correctly, we should be able to purge 2 of the 3 unclear slots
-Kat
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:13 pm
by FakeGod
sigh
I guess I can skim the game thread while assuming Ark and OST are mech cleared to see if I can narrow it down between Pine and Chick
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:30 pm
by FakeGod
just ISO'd the mod for the VCs
Chick does fuck all with her vote all game except to randomly show up and hammer chemist (4.final)
Pine parks BS half of day 1 then shows up at the end of DEB wagon (1.12, 1.final), then pushes FL with jjh (2.7) before showing up at end of mastina wagon (2.12) before showing up at the end of FL wagon (2.final)
then pushes Ark in day 3 before showing at the end of BS wagon (3.final)
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:33 pm
by FakeGod
I'd prob say Pine scum here because he does the snowball thing with the wagons
but yeah town players do that all the time, and I'd I hate losing to Chick scum more here since she didn't do anything
I dunno
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:35 pm
by FakeGod
60 40 pine scum final answer
Ark, I see why you think pine would be the final scum (because he vote parked you for half of d3, and yes OMGUS is real and it actually might be the strongest predictor of reads from what I see in the games I mod) but I would recommend trying to get a clearer head and figuring out this shit objectively
because you have more invested in this game than I do
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:46 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
fakegod you're literally an angel.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:52 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
@krazzy for what little it matters, my role is the 'Deadspeaker'. the role isn't super complicated, BuJ and I have just crumbed & revealed it in l a y e r s
you'll get to have a read postgame.
i'm decidedly fine with the Pine lynch. sorry for any inconvenience.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:01 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
just random thoughts
In post 669, Chickadee wrote:I'm kind of not ok with voting someone on VLA, just on the basis that they're not here to defend themselves.
DEB - did you notice XXXZ was on VLA before voting?
i like this for non-aligned chickadee
DEB overjustifying his XXXZ vote was pretty sketchy - if chicka is scum she's walked into a s/s vote from her buddy onto another buddy that looked sketchy and soft-defended against the second scumbuddy's wagon by shading the scumbuddy who made the vote
her vote d1 was also either on DEB or no one; i'll check bus equity onwagon. a lot of her townread on pine seems to be from his soft inno which was never elaborated on
Jingle your VCs are too wonderful
this took a LOT of effort
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:33 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
CheekyTeeky voteparked Chickadee then DEB for quite a long time
buuuut she and DEB were partners on Chickadee from 1.7-1.12 (a fucking long time) which i think is probably slightly less w/w
Pine bus in 1.12 is more realistic than Chickadee bus in 1.9 via vca alone
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:36 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
In post 447, Chickadee wrote:I think I was also in Overkill2??? I can no longer remember why we were talking about that.
Anyway VOTE: Dr. Easy Bake
Flimsy reasoning on everything, with an assurance that
everything is normal
doesn't sit right with me.
this after she's already been shading the spot
dedicated bus if it is a bus
thing with chickadee is i don't think she has the hardcore soloscum confidence that bussers at this level usually have
i recently lost a game to Errantparabola/Glork after EP opened the game the game pretty cruisy but posting well, then Glork replaced into the slot and opened by hard bussing his two scumbuddies. comparing this i think EP has the confidence to be unreadable then turn it up lategame; likewise glork's confidence in the slot is huge
there's a fine line between chickadee being confident hard bussing deepscum here or her just being town. unfortunately at a vca level the two look like nearly indistinguishable but at a personality tell level i think it's towny
Still, I think the claim saves him. Scum will have to kill him sooner or later.
UNVOTE:
the hammer is also like markedly less wordy than Pine has been at this stage of the game and is more mechanically oriented than enthusiastic to solve; tonality is a disappointed sigh rather than a triumphant "bah! die, scum!"
not that i think i can really accurately toneread Pine in a vacuum but it's something
In post 774, Pine wrote:It is, but I believe it. This explains a lot.
VOTE: DEB
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:41 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
mmnnyea if i had to pick a nonbus distancing push on deb/jjhslot d1 i'd probably attribute it to either egix, dann, or myself, and all three of us are confirmed town
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:42 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
well, i'm confirmed town unless you're stupid
dann and egix were also town via claim and obvtown via posting
cheeky following jjh onto binary for 2.11 is interesting; i shld check her jjh/binary trajectories and see if this made a tonne of sense or not
chickadee's vote onto mastina doesn't really make me feel strongly one way or the other. it's townier than cheeky's vote. binary isn't a wagon and she's given reads which is unconsciously slightly +solvey
pine vote on mastina for 2.12 aka. 2.11 (2) is vry opportunistic.
just coasting through 2.13 aka. 2.12 and the mastina + binary wagons should generally have one scum each. again, gonna check cheeky's trajectories.
not really applying neighbour rule to 2.14 because flashwagons gonna flash and stuff
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:32 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
cheeky didn't mention either jjh or zzzx once
she just wanted binary dead for the entire game
holy fuck why can't one of you just be slightly towny aararrrghghghh
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:35 pm
by OSTENTATIOUS
d1-d2 vca kinda basically just says that pine is probably scum
sadly it's not very comforting on either of chickadee or cheeky
aa probs never scum unsurprisingly. i forgot i was meant to be reevaluating them halfway through.