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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:30 pm
by Salamence20
But Bitmap would be dead?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:30 pm
by Bitmap
Also, I'm not saying anything that isn't public knowledge because everyone should of probably realized I was like 100% going to BG RC, unless you're slow at this game.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2275, Salamence20 wrote:But Bitmap would be dead?
This is where we tell you to shut up.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Via the combination of 3 roles we are all unkillable

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by Salamence20
In post 1815, Kerset wrote:Salmence has like 0 town concern. He is not afraid about mislynch. He doesn't look at potential information received from flip. I don't see him to be kind of player that hides most of this thoughts. I was sure that he was sheeping earlier in order to obtain information about people reactions but now he seems to be disengaged from this. Even if we believe him that from now on Fark is the only thing that he cares about I would expect him to start reading his previous games. Both me and Eva gave quite direct warning that Farkran is often misread on day 1 so anyone with town concern would check those for sake of clarity.
VOTE: Salamence
I will admit this is really weird to do if Kerset is scum and Farkran is town.

Why divert?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Oh dear god could you not make this impossible to read

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:40 pm
by Salamence20
In post 2058, Kerset wrote:Wagon looks bad.
Yeah we are going to need more details now.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:55 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2280, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh dear god could you not make this impossible to read
You had 2 days to catch up. You should of had something ready by now.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:55 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2191, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Your fellow members: MITAMA YAKUMO and MITAMA YAKUMO

Is this useful info

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:57 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2283, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2191, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Your fellow members: MITAMA YAKUMO and MITAMA YAKUMO

Is this useful info
No, that's the coordinator aka mod flavor. Just ignore.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm
by Salamence20
In post 1571, Sujimichi wrote:VOTE: popsofctown
We need this to catchup too. He really wasnt there the later part of the day.

Also why did it take forever for either wagon to lynch yesterday? I really dont want to make assumptions either way but it was really weird that neither farkran nor Pops could get lynched right away. Was the farkran wagon that stubborn? (I mean its obvious why I didnt move, I cant answer for the others).

Imo:

Farkran could have been a bus, the OMGUS could have been a seperation play, he was also readings pops as town for awhile.

Chemist could have been a bus given his play.

Suji could be but it could have also been a townie “whatever Im trying to enjoy the holidays” vote.

Everyone else looks town.

Gamma gets a pass for his vote because his vote was made a long time ago and he wasnt here the entire second half of D1.

Im town.

Kerset was odd, explained a few posts above.

Im blinded by Shiro Drew being town for agreeing with me and need to look at the posts again.

UNVOTE: TL

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:01 pm
by Bitmap
Whoever poisoned Farkran is probably town.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:03 pm
by Salamence20
In post 2250, RadiantCowbells wrote:No Nancy Drew is anti bus as is pops.
Assuming this is true (I really dont know Nancy), would nancy still be that stubborn to not bus, especially with meta?
Bitmap wrote:Whoever poisoned Farkran is probably town.
Poison doesnt seem to be pro-town, but its Farkran. Why not Poison me or Kerset? Farkran probably isnt in danger of being lynched today.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:38 pm
by Salamence20
In post 1474, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1472, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 1434, popsofctown wrote: I'm at 11/19 votes but I am pretty sure I am more at L-Severa

I am not going to really try to convince Severa I am not scum because old newbies + MG made that process seem futile and exhausting. It's nbd because Severa mostly does better than rand and even if this the LE lynch of this game as long as no one fakeclaims masons it will be o.k. As long as protectives is Severa
Then additionally I am not going to really try to convince people on the wagon I'm not scum because they're just sheeping Severa. So that's silly.
I will just list my reads, tomorrow at closer to literal L-1 I will claim, but tomorrow and this weekend I have stuffs so I want to post now, then I will play with you guys some other time.

Alchemist21: Alchemist has been very scummy and I don't know why Severa townreads him. Even though he is "scummy" as town he just manages to seem even scummier than that, even someone who posts with a scummy tone could at least not be on easy wagons because their mind is towny independent guesses even though they have scumshaped lips they were born with? If Severa is killed it seems dangerous to townlock alchemist. He could be town yes he has played this bad but it's not safety to look at universally scummy play and call it town because someone like didn't claim scum

Bitmap: Bitmap has felt really scummy this game, basically I have no reason not to push him besides he softed but I do think this is a game with OP magicks and runaan hurricanes and mercurial infinity edge and keeping strong role alive can be strong. I feel like he has used copying Severa in a defensive way the occludes his motives and he it's different from how he would sheep Severa if he was town. I don't think the fake desp is out of his scumrange because he had a neighborhood to feel comfortable from and play it like a game.

Chemist1422: Chemist was very towny in the first few pages but has not posted much in the last half of the game. I feel like you should really treat him like he got innocented by uncofnirmed sanity cop going through the rest of the game. I am eating some nuts. Chemist thought process is town if you reread his early post and he made post that increase his profile for no gain.

Evenstar: Evenstar displayed townie thought process in some of her early posts go backwards and time travel. She has maybe been less exciting in the recent. I also feel like I don't like the way she is on my wagon I think she wouldn't want to sheep Severa like other players and would see I am town from here. But unless it comes to PoE I would still think she is town from early good posts that seemed really town. She is much more carefree in this game than MG I am going to steal our mod's phrase and call her "carefree villager", in MG she was conscious. Wait she was town in MG. Ok still though she can't be too townie to be town? I think you should at least bring her towards LyLo.


Gamma Emerald: I still feel like Gamma Emerald is scummy. I think people are townreading him for pushing onto Severa when he would know that is hard as scum but it seemed to me like he was just trying to ~do stuff~ so it doesn't count. He hasn't posted in a while. But also the ways in which Severa told him he was being silly I felt like GE would know before being told.

Kerset: Kerset is very townie for how ke has reacted to other players even if he's not good at proactive. Many of ker posts are very brave and even if ke has never rolled scum before ker nervousness about team mafia shows ke would be less carefree here than ke has. I actually have changed my mind in liking this slot more than Evenstar, maybe more than Chemist but it is weird because Chemist is AFK.

Salamence20: Salamence has not been as fun as I hoped I would have hoped an unbanned user would be exciting. But he has been mostly townie boring. On the early pages his tone was town and the timing of when he stopped doing his own things and started sheeping Severa seemed more like townie exhaustion rather than Alchemist and Bitmap seem like they are ducking under it as a shield around their own thoughts. I really want to play with this player again in a game without Severa, although that doesn't mean I mind playing with Severa


Severa: I am "not townreading" Severa and it's possible that the way I should calibrate is that that means Severa is scum, sinc the two games where I felt that way he was scum, and in old newbies I townread him. In MG I scumread him but townread his partner but sometimes townread him and it's just like whatever I don't I don't want to think about hydras and feel like I shouldn't have too their not mafia sorry not sorry. Always remember this is a player that can convince people in LyLo that he somehow dodged all those NKs and is not scum but sometimes he is scum. But, anyways anytimes this is a special kind of player.

Sujimichi: Sujimichi's thoughts have seemed townie and he has posted a thing a townie would be thinking. There is not a lot of volume of them though. The things he does post seem easier to fake then Chemsit IMO. It look slike maybe he will be replaced? I would give his slot a small head start not a huge one. But the most important thing. Sujimichi is cute. No one should ever deny this or I will use my dead thread daykill.

TemporalLich: I feel like this players first ~8 post were extremely very extremely scummy and the next however many not so much. People are misrepping eachother calling him LHF over his recent posting being not so bad when his very early posting was so much "scum posts this and town does not post this". His later posts make you question a little bit whether he would be able to make them emotionally but with the way resignation can sometimes be freeing for scum I'm not sure that has a clearing effect.

Venus and Mars: I think the proportion of scumreads:townreads from this slot is very circumstantially suspect as Kerset hinted at at some point or maybe wasn't hinting but I am hinting right here right now right cheow. It seems like a consequence of noticing the trajectory of the town is mislynch trajectory so it's better to do townreads you can reneg on rather than scumreads that could jerk a spotlight that has been very flexible. And also I think ND usually finds something offtempo she would be upset about and I find it suprising/implausible she'd get the different read from me on how Gamma is playing. I would keep my eye here but Shiro is slowly posting more and more and she's easier to read than ND imo so there's that.

cool that is everyone i will finish my nuts then play some FE then sleeps
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Cleaning this up for everyone. Also so I can read it myself later.
Thanks for this.
While I clearly disagree with Pops on much of this, it reads more believable to me than Fakran’s.
Bolded parts are important. Given Pops' posting yesterday can we believe her reads were legit given she really didn't feel like trying?

Also wtf is that Shiro Drew Read?

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Looking at Shiro Drew, she hardread popstown after her readslist and basically scumread farkran for pretty much the same reasons I did, Farkran was getting antsy. She does defend Pops as much as I did, but she says more "I think pops is town" vs. "I think pops is fucking exhausted being Severa's bitch"

I'm not entirely sold, but I am giving RC my vote today so I guess for now thats where its at.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:08 pm
by Kerset
So fark said that he needs charges and here he seems to used it on blast. I want explanation.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:09 pm
by Kerset
In post 2281, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 2058, Kerset wrote:Wagon looks bad.
Yeah we are going to need more details now.
What details?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:10 pm
by Kerset
In post 2283, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2191, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Your fellow members: MITAMA YAKUMO and MITAMA YAKUMO

Is this useful info
Yea we shouldn't trust her

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:28 pm
by Kerset
I don't really believe that sala was rbed last night. The way he asked for roles yesterday and lack of today's result seems to me that he lied.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:35 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2292, Kerset wrote:I don't really believe that sala was rbed last night. The way he asked for roles yesterday and lack of today's result seems to me that he lied.
Is there anything in your role that would block his rolecop on you?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:38 pm
by Kerset
In post 2293, Bitmap wrote:
In post 2292, Kerset wrote:I don't really believe that sala was rbed last night. The way he asked for roles yesterday and lack of today's result seems to me that he lied.
Is there anything in your role that would block his rolecop on you?
No.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:40 pm
by Bitmap
Going to wait for others to chime in before really pushing anyone.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:42 pm
by Bitmap
Evenstar didn’t like the Salamence slot hmm

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:43 pm
by Kerset
In post 2272, Bitmap wrote:Also,

Evenstar is a great SK kill.

Evenstar is a shit tier mafia kill.
Beside you/RC, do you see anyone else worthy for you to be NK by maf? We know that TL used his ability so he is not powerful anymore.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:53 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2297, Kerset wrote:
In post 2272, Bitmap wrote:Also,

Evenstar is a great SK kill.

Evenstar is a shit tier mafia kill.
Beside you/RC, do you see anyone else worthy for you to be NK by maf? We know that TL used his ability so he is not powerful anymore.
No which is why I’m annoyed people are like “how do you know there’s an SK” like cmon people it’s not rocket science

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:50 pm
by Farkran
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Also: Hi my name is Salamence20 and I suck at mafia, RC is really good at mafia, Im a fool for trying to dissuade him. I am shit, in fact lower than shit. I deserve to be burried in shit thats how bad I am at mafia.
Good morning and you're welcome :D

Catching up now