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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:09 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2142, chkflip wrote:You don't come in swinging with shade, disrespect, AtE etc et al from post one and never stop. No.
And any of that makes me scum, how? When players are as dig-their-heels-in-bury-their-heads-in-the-sand-don’t-confuse-me-with-the-facts, it’s extremely difficult not to get exasperated by that - why? - because you essentially refuse to goddamned fucking listen! and after I hardclaimed tpr, you STILL vote me and if you were to actually THINK about it for even one goddalned minute, you’d realize:

A)I have been consistently mindmelding with on reads this game.
B) In Mime I pushed you as scum, eventhough you were obviously town in that. Am I doing that here? Did I take your stupid bait and wagon you? Hell no, because I honestly don’t think you’re scum here.
C)ISO me in any of my more traditional scumgames where I actually played well. The difference in my play here will knock you down like a ton of bricks.

I honestly don’t know why I’m even wasting my time with this. Whatever.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:09 am
by jjh927
In post 2273, Vecna wrote:oh yeah, i was townreading nomnom early game. that catchup reminded me of that and reinforced the feeling.

Im not really seeing the scum in GB, but I also feel its the type of playstyle that might fly under my radar.

JJH what was that about alternate wincon?
Since I've been playing Animal Crossing rather than mafia I am the real winner

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:12 am
by davesaz
What is animal crossing?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:12 am
by Krazy Katz
Vidja game

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:13 am
by GeorgeBailey
In post 2277, davesaz wrote:What is animal crossing?
Furry propaganda

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:18 am
by GeorgeBailey
In post 2212, Conspire wrote:Yeah, I'm feeling less confident on
Dave
too, but I have another question for him: Pregame, what impression did you have of how picks would work? That they would affect alignment/role, or both?

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

-Cosmic
Why do you have a question for Dave as you vote me, is there something you want to know from me?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:18 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2149, The Fonz wrote:I don't want anything to do with the chk vs Nancy argument. I think I it's most likely TvT, but I'm more confident in chk town, and if forced to pick between them I will. I agree that basically everything chk brings up is really unpleasant to play with in terms of the defensiveness, the need to be TR, the accusing any disagreement of being awful play. I just think that's Nancy. At least, Nancy in current headspace. The only bit I think might be AI is the bit near the end about Vecna.

chk simply doesn't lay his ass on the line like that if he ain't town.

@Titus, would you strongly object to being passed a barb? I clarified with Boon that me being passed it wasn't it being used on me, and me passing it isn't me using it either. I feel there's some town utility in testing your role, and you may (do not comment here on whether you can or not) be able to make it loyal, disloyal or desperate in a way that helps confirm alignment down the road. I don't want you not to receive anything, and I don't want Nancy to have to declare where she's sending. Certain things you said about me in your post, really hurts my feelings and I think is really unfair to me.

I KNOW I’m a mislynch and I strongly think chk is too, so lynching either of us helps scum, so you don’t want to do that.

OTOH there is a risk that passing the barb might mean one or other of us gets pricked in the handover.
I don’t understand what you mean by “forced to choose between them”? I’m not sr chk, nor am I pushing him. He’s the one attempting to mislynch a hardclaimed tpr! I KNOW I’m town and I strongly suspect chk is as well, so if you don’t want to mislynch, you should never vote either of us. Some of what you said about me in your post really hurts my feelings and is extremely unfair to me, especially because I honestly didn’t expect this from you.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:20 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2150, Vecna wrote:
In post 2084, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2082, Michael Scott wrote:Have you ever mislynched someone before?
Honestly no offense but what part of he’s blatantly trying to get me pl’d did you miss?
It really doesnt look like a policy lynch to me. Stop overreacting, just let it be. Its not like were gonna be listening to him and this nonsense is just making the game harder to read (for us poor people that already have a hard time keeping up)
I’m not overreacting, he is literally trying to mislynch a hardclaimed tpr. I wouldn’t react so strongly if I was just a vt in this game but that is really beyond bad of him.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:21 am
by GeorgeBailey
In post 2203, Conspire wrote:Hey, George, if you had to order everyone into a quick shotgun reads list, do you think you could manage that for me please? Reasons aren't necessary; I just want to see where your reads are at
Gimme a couple hours

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:23 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2151, Vecna wrote:
In post 2098, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2095, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:This is pretty obvious tvt betwen VaM/Chp.

I dislike RCE's stance and how he handled the whole situation. I was gonna do a giant wall post but me and my partner have disagreements so I'm here instead.
~Mary
I think KA is town. Adding to my not today lynch pile. Yeah @Auro, also agree on GB.
I thought this line was one of those easy easy takes to take as scum. Everyone can see whats happening here. Maybe im just biased because of poe stuff
Who are you referring to - us or KA and what is the “easy take” you’re referring to? I can’t comment more on this, until you clarify who and what specifically you’re referring to.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:24 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2153, Vecna wrote:
In post 2105, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2099, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2096, Venus and Mars wrote:Woats is NOT an attack on anyone’s character
I fully understand how you mean it when you use the term, but I don't think people on the receiving end perceive it that way.
Criticizing someone’s gameplay is not a personal attack. Calling someone a “floating turd” has zilch to do with my gameplay and is a personal attack and I literally warned him not once but twice.
Its rather mild though right? Id really advise you not to get upset over stuff like that on the internet. Its really more of a term of endearment, AND in the context it was posted in it was also talking about your play IN CASE YOU WERE TOWN. So it was criticizing your GAMEPLAY.

Toughen up. Less drama. Better game.
Yes, I could see that as possible and maybe I did jump the gun on that?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:27 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2154, Vecna wrote:
In post 2133, Michael Scott wrote:Chkflip locktown :3
Been saying that. Gonna be hard to not form a slightly more critical mind about venus after that wall
chk’s alignment has zilch to do with the accuracy of his read on me. Read my games and listen to those who actually have a freaking clue how to read me here. If you don’t want to mislynch, you should never listen to chk’s reads on me.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:29 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2156, Vecna wrote:VOTE: Krazy Katz
Why KK? They were’nt even in your red list?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:30 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2158, Boonskiies wrote:
Looney Toons
Vote Count 1.06

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Davesaz [5]:
The Fonz, Kakeguri Addicts, Conspire, Michael Scott, Krazy Katz
RCEnigma [2]:
Chronos, Venus and Mars
Kakeguri Addicts [2]:
Nomnomnom, GeorgeBailey
Venus and Mars [2]:
RCEnigma, Chkflip
GeorgeBailey [1]:
Jjh927,
BooneyToonzExpert [1]:
Titus,
Krazy Katz [1]:
Vecna,
Conspire [1]:
Davesaz

Not Voting [2]: BooneyToonzExpert, sore feet


With
17
alive, it takes
9
to execute.

Day 1
ends in (expired on 2020-03-25 21:00:00) on
March 25th
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Mod Notes:
Don’t be outta pocket.

RCEnigma is the new Mechanic/TrueSoulEnergy.

Going to try and get a vote count EVERY night rather than every other night starting here.

Anyone playing Animal Crossing?
What is Animal Crossing?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:33 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2163, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2160, Michael Scott wrote:And I wouldn't mediate as town?
Name a slot that isn't taking a position that Chk/VM are TvT.
Me.

You might as town but the strategy went over really well for Skitter in TM and that's a fresh wound. Just considering all angles at this point. I'll look into it further when I have the energy.
I really don’t think Auro does the fake dayvig thing as scum, he is usually a lot more careful and strategic as scum.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:34 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2164, RCEnigma wrote:Also I've only seen slots with positive reads on chronos and enough trs on Nancy that I'm going to ask everyone generally, why exactly?

General reasons are fine but directly quotable examples are preferred.

Specifically auro you've said there are plenty of reasons to tr Nancy but haven't given anything specific. So talk to me about that a bit.
He did ask you why you were so certain I couldn’t be wrong about you, rather than scum, which you still have yet to answer.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:38 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2165, Michael Scott wrote:I'd mediate as either alignment.

I think I have a couple of tells for Nancy (which I need to verify) but won't out. One of them is in her reactions towards Chk. The other in her general posting.

I'm stronger in Chk being town, though.
I got some pings Nancy might have been coached
.
Dafuq? The only person in this game, I’ve talked to besides of course Boon, is obviously Shiro. If I was being “coached”, you seriously think there would be two votes on me D1? Please don’t make me doubt my strong tr on you Auro.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:39 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2167, RCEnigma wrote:Coached? That's interesting actually, talk about that.
Yes, I’d love to hear more about that as well, because if I had a “coach” in this game, I would have fired them already.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:41 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2168, Michael Scott wrote:I remember they were mechanics related, but have to search through 3 pages of ISO >.>
In post 2169, Michael Scott wrote:I'll dig them up if I suspect her of being scum.

Can talk about any other slot.
No, don’t wait, dig them up now. I really want to hear this theory.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:43 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2170, sore feet wrote:
In post 2165, Michael Scott wrote:I got some pings Nancy might have been coached.
nancy isnt getting coached, shes a power scum
im interested who in list you think would be coaching nancy, though
I’m neither getting coached nor am I scum. Are you seriously sr me here?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:45 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2172, Michael Scott wrote:@sore feet: Not coached in the classical sense of how to frame posts, etc, but I felt like she had a discussion about mechanics at some point given the sense of clarity I was getting from her.
Usually as town I've seen her be a lot more unsure about mechanical elements.
What elements? Do you think I don’t understand my role or what?

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:49 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2173, Michael Scott wrote:Nancy is now going to shout at me :P
No but I’m less sure about my read on you but I need clarification on SF’s post because it sounds like they’re calling me scum. I honestly don’t know whether I should be outraged or flattered that anyone thinks I can be this far out of my scumrange here and still be scum. I know that tw isn’t terrible at reading me, so unless I’m completely misunderstanding that “power scum” comment, I need to re-evaluate.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:53 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2175, sore feet wrote:i have skimmed the nancy/chk stuff on mobile and im sad the game is becoming toxic
i will comment later
I’m sorry about that but when I as far out of my scumrange as I am here, it’s beyond aggravating that people aren’t seeing it - especially after my claim - which is literally the same goddamned role I had in LNT. This game is even more frustrating than VG, when my slot was doc cleared.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:56 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2177, Michael Scott wrote:Those were weak pings, and I have a bunch of reasons to townread her.
I think a lot of slots here could've coached her.
Could be that she simply discussed things with her hydra partner too.

It's weird you ask me that question when I said I'm townreading her.
If I was actually being “coached”, not a single person would be sr me rn. *head exploding*

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:58 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 2179, Titus wrote:Is there anything urgent I need to read in the explosion of posts last night? I just want to play with poisonous inactivated barbs. What could go wrong?
You could maybe help me keep my sanity? A part of me legit doesn’t want to be in this game anymore, which is a real shame considering I have such an awesome role.