Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:46 am
@JJH - you’d have died like Night 1 if I were scum here.
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
I think that’s kind of the point.In post 2274, Hayasaka wrote:My role has anti synergy with FL's role which made me not question Tris role since we could just be a game of roles that hurt other roles.
But Tris literally has the counter to the town cop.
Which another thing to keep in mind.
Yeah honestly that's been at the back of my mind since d2In post 2275, Flavor Leaf wrote:@JJH - you’d have died like Night 1 if I were scum here.
I'd say sorry because no-fade then fading you would mean 5 players going into day 5 assuming no kills other than scum nightkills, which kinda sucks if there are 3 scum total or Tris isn't scum or bothIn post 2273, Flavor Leaf wrote:Hypothetically, what would y’all say if I said I was a Jester who won by getting faded Day4+? If 2 scum only, and Tris is last scum, i would lose in that scenario.
Completely hypothetical.
That’s why I thought it pointless to TA you when I realized that Gamma’s role if real and if scum, would be the most likely to bus drive you, so I though our best shot was hoping it was a fakeclaim and we get a positive, so it points to bus drive being real but way too much town power with Hya, us, FL for Gamma to be town BD. Now Tris claims she got confirmation on our “I do” but why haven’t we? Wouldn’t we both receive confirmation on that @Tris? I checked and double checked that it was received and that much was confirmed but nothing else, so it sounds really suspect to me that we wouldn’t get a confirmation but you would.In post 2270, jjh927 wrote:I'm just looking at flips and this setup may be role madness but it looks like it's got a heavy emphasis on day play
If we assume scum!tris, traffic analyser can never hard guilty scum and gets plenty of false positives. Most actions appear relatively weak and seem to involve moving targets about or being untargetable. The tracker is probably the strongest role claimed so far, mechanically speaking
It could just be 2 scum tbh
i guess the role is based on the other person trusting you or something. why would i make up a weird thing like that?In post 2280, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:That’s why I thought it pointless to TA you when I realized that Gamma’s role if real and if scum, would be the most likely to bus drive you, so I though our best shot was hoping it was a fakeclaim and we get a positive, so it points to bus drive being real but way too much town power with Hya, us, FL for Gamma to be town BD. Now Tris claims she got confirmation on our “I do” but why haven’t we? Wouldn’t we both receive confirmation on that @Tris? I checked and double checked that it was received and that much was confirmed but nothing else, so it sounds really suspect to me that we wouldn’t get a confirmation but you would.In post 2270, jjh927 wrote:I'm just looking at flips and this setup may be role madness but it looks like it's got a heavy emphasis on day play
If we assume scum!tris, traffic analyser can never hard guilty scum and gets plenty of false positives. Most actions appear relatively weak and seem to involve moving targets about or being untargetable. The tracker is probably the strongest role claimed so far, mechanically speaking
It could just be 2 scum tbh
I think it’s Tris/Gamma
I tr everyone else and would also Tris if it weren’t for Amy flip, Hya’s claim and the whole “I do” thing not adding up.
There’s also DnD being extremely concerned with FL’s Tris read and DnD never really commenting on her and leaving them out of their reads. I need to ask Amy post-game how she figured it out.
~M
In post 2281, jjh927 wrote:It would be pointless to TA me anyway
You'd get a positive result because I have a crier message
I figured that scum!Gamma would have expected us to TA you and then we’d get a false positive. However, I really did think the BD claim was bogus.
I don’t know but why do you only have the “I do” confirmation but not us?In post 2286, tris wrote:i guess the role is based on the other person trusting you or something. why would i make up a weird thing like that?In post 2280, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:That’s why I thought it pointless to TA you when I realized that Gamma’s role if real and if scum, would be the most likely to bus drive you, so I though our best shot was hoping it was a fakeclaim and we get a positive, so it points to bus drive being real but way too much town power with Hya, us, FL for Gamma to be town BD. Now Tris claims she got confirmation on our “I do” but why haven’t we? Wouldn’t we both receive confirmation on that @Tris? I checked and double checked that it was received and that much was confirmed but nothing else, so it sounds really suspect to me that we wouldn’t get a confirmation but you would.In post 2270, jjh927 wrote:I'm just looking at flips and this setup may be role madness but it looks like it's got a heavy emphasis on day play
If we assume scum!tris, traffic analyser can never hard guilty scum and gets plenty of false positives. Most actions appear relatively weak and seem to involve moving targets about or being untargetable. The tracker is probably the strongest role claimed so far, mechanically speaking
It could just be 2 scum tbh
I think it’s Tris/Gamma
I tr everyone else and would also Tris if it weren’t for Amy flip, Hya’s claim and the whole “I do” thing not adding up.
There’s also DnD being extremely concerned with FL’s Tris read and DnD never really commenting on her and leaving them out of their reads. I need to ask Amy post-game how she figured it out.
~M
In post 2162, MariaR wrote:Every even night you may target 1 player and actions they perform will target you instead
A Deflector is a role that takes all actions that target one player at Night, and redirects them so that they target a second player instead.
In post 2292, Hayasaka wrote:I think Gamma is scum but Amy wasn't a deflector
Isn’t that what FL said that Amy’s action on Tris meant?Deflector
Alias:
Redirector
Alignment: any
Role type:
Manipulative
Choice:
Night
A Deflector is a role that takes all actions that target one player at Night, and redirects them so that they target a second player instead.
Yeah, so it really doesn’t matter which one of Tris/Gamma gets flipped first. We hit scum in either case. Tris is just far less annoying.In post 2292, Hayasaka wrote:I think Gamma is scum but Amy wasn't a deflector
my theory is that it's like you're supposed to trust me that it's working or something. idkIn post 2289, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:I don’t know but why do you only have the “I do” confirmation but not us?In post 2286, tris wrote:i guess the role is based on the other person trusting you or something. why would i make up a weird thing like that?In post 2280, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:That’s why I thought it pointless to TA you when I realized that Gamma’s role if real and if scum, would be the most likely to bus drive you, so I though our best shot was hoping it was a fakeclaim and we get a positive, so it points to bus drive being real but way too much town power with Hya, us, FL for Gamma to be town BD. Now Tris claims she got confirmation on our “I do” but why haven’t we? Wouldn’t we both receive confirmation on that @Tris? I checked and double checked that it was received and that much was confirmed but nothing else, so it sounds really suspect to me that we wouldn’t get a confirmation but you would.In post 2270, jjh927 wrote:I'm just looking at flips and this setup may be role madness but it looks like it's got a heavy emphasis on day play
If we assume scum!tris, traffic analyser can never hard guilty scum and gets plenty of false positives. Most actions appear relatively weak and seem to involve moving targets about or being untargetable. The tracker is probably the strongest role claimed so far, mechanically speaking
It could just be 2 scum tbh
I think it’s Tris/Gamma
I tr everyone else and would also Tris if it weren’t for Amy flip, Hya’s claim and the whole “I do” thing not adding up.
There’s also DnD being extremely concerned with FL’s Tris read and DnD never really commenting on her and leaving them out of their reads. I need to ask Amy post-game how she figured it out.
~M
I just think if your conditional bg was real, I wouldn’t have gotten the response that the mods couldn’t answer any of it. Why wouldn’t they have just backed you up if true? And why would either or Hya need to have done that anyway? Like in what world would either Hya or myself refuse the “I do”? No one in their right mind rehects a bg offer. And now you’re saying Hya isn’t protected but I am?In post 2297, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:Either you were bus drove or Hya’s lying and first one sounds iffy and second, extremely unlikely.
Gamma’s probably already given up. I admit from a purely emotional pov, I would prefer him today but Hya is saying you weren’t bus driven to Amy, so that is literally the only way you’re not guiltied and occams razer says that’s unlikely but she says that’s impossible and I don’t see why he’d lie.
Plus, why wouldn’t Maria have confirmed to both of us your “I do”, why just you? I was expecting Dunn to confirm your conditional bg on us being real and I think it would have been confirmed if it were true. I asked specifically to have both the “I do” thing confirmed and your part in submitting it and was told the mods couldn’t confirm any of it and now you’ve gotten confirmation of our “I do” but we’ve still gotten absolutely nothing.