In post 2272, skitter30 wrote:also now that lilith's game is over, i feel the need to point out that this is no longer accurate meta %
he basically played *exactly* like he did in this game and ultimately got repped out for inactivity
oh sorry i realize i didn't explicitly say it: pine was scum in that game, to make it clear
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:26 pm
by Best Bird
I hate you with a fiery passion. That’s what I get for trying to type up content instead of stealing the pagetop.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:27 pm
by skitter30
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:30 pm
by Best Bird
tgp
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:25 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2258, lilith2013 wrote:I don't know, I feel like he's reasonably towny in his interactions with skitter (reasonably because I haven't played with scum!mena but I imagine he's a pretty competent player who knows what he's supposed to sound like as town) and I think it's less unlikely that I didn't actually block the kill than I originally thought
Don't get gaslit
TGP vote doesn't really make sense
davesaz is sidelining all of this hard
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:42 pm
by skitter30
dunn is being scummy too ^
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:52 pm
by Uncrowned
But why doesn't the TGP vote make sense?
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:51 pm
by Infinity 324
A couple things I wanted to address from the case, though it made me more confident if anything in my TGP townread
In post 2267, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
this seems like intentionally bad reasoning, and it looks scum-indicative to me. Because dgb was below every unique number that was picked, it seems like a stretch to say that:
1. it would be an odd wifom play to not take the 1-shot vig as scum
2. this only applies to the top couple slots in the draft
while i understand the possible reasoning that the top couple of slots in the draft would be more confident in getting 1-shot vig as scum, it's not a particularly coveted town role and is not incredibly likely to be picked by town. thus, this reasoning seems like it falls apart pretty quickly when attempting to make both of those arguments together.
I mean, someone in the town is likely to pick it right? If you aren't likely to get a super strong PR then going for 1-shot vig makes sense. Also vig power is
super
strong for scum, the idea that they would give up on it cause wine is pretty questionable imo
infinity has pointed out themselves that they try to just focus on slots that specifically ping them (they said 3-4 was good, which it seems like JV has)
JV has basically focused on one player. Yeah they were directing attention on mena earlier in the day. But it's super easy to focus on the guilty and there was no sorting involved. What other players has JV significantly focused on in your opinion throughout the game?
tunnels aren't usually indicative of scumplay
It's not the fact that JV is tunneling that's scummy. It's the
way
they're tunneling. They're barely incorporating any of peta's play since the tunnel started, which is very unusual for town tunnels. Confbias is a big factor, so
everything
the tunneled player is doing generally looks scummy to the tunneling player. The fact that it started with a lighthearted-sounding post, 593, doesn't match up with the strength of the tunnel imo.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:57 pm
by skitter30
In post 2282, Infinity 324 wrote:They're barely incorporating any of peta's play since the tunnel started, which is very unusual for town tunnels.
i ... actually think this is fairly typical for town tunnels
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:00 pm
by Infinity 324
Wow I almost never see that
Usually they have a reason for why everything they do is scummy somehow