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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:24 pm
by Noraa
In post 2274, Dunnstral wrote:I do think Gera should be vigged or elimmed tomorrow
I think this is fine.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:26 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2248, Insanoflex wrote:To be clear, the plan is I protect PlusJOYED and he vigs someone, right?
yes

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:28 pm
by Dunnstral
Before we go into night, wanted mass claim first but:

My role is Simple Cop, so I can't target people with power roles. We had a scum watcher already, I don't know if there would be a second power role for scum. I could buy one more.

Godfather isn't a normal role, by the way. And even if it was, I wouldn't be able to target him

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:29 pm
by Noraa
the enabler also died tho so u can't really target anyways.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:20 pm
by Dunnstral
I know

I'm just outting my role for spec analysis

Whereas earlier it was a 'you guys don't need to know this' kind of thing

I wanted everyone else to claim first, but whatever

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:21 pm
by Dunnstral
Noraa this setup wouldn't be balanced for town if I weren't town

Complex Neighbor, Loyal Bodyguard, Vigilante

Is not a balanced town setup

So you can table your suspicion

Add on that there was a literal cop enabler flip

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:22 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm
by Dunnstral
don't shoot insaneo tonight

bad mechanical play

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Did a hammer happen? I vaguely skimmed, and feel like it might have. Catching up now.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Nah, Insaneo is almost lock scum if Noraa is scum.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:24 pm
by Dunnstral
yeah noraa is hammered

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:26 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2122, PlusJOYED wrote:i think i have a solve now

this is pretty speculative but nopoint saying "maf don't want to stall they want to elim townies" felt genuine to me. I think nopoint was annoyed as maf that he didnt get a mislim. This makes me think that he probably talked in maf chat about his frustration n1 and got some sort of resonance with maf. He'd probably want to push inactive maf slots to join a wagon otherwise. To me the other person most frusterated with inactivity day 1 was uwnd, so this kind of implicates him to me but the idea is a bit of a stretch.

uwnd's suggestion really pinged me. since uwnd knew I'd very likely shoot between gera and uwnd after noraa elim, he was very survivalistic for a VT suggesting that we elim gera and have me choose between andres and noraa: too much self-preservation for a VT imo.

therefore, my solve is nopoint/noraa/uwnd.

This was my solve yesterday. I’m pretty sure I was wrong.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:31 pm
by Noraa
In post 2280, Dunnstral wrote:Noraa this setup wouldn't be balanced for town if I weren't town

Complex Neighbor, Loyal Bodyguard, Vigilante

Is not a balanced town setup

So you can table your suspicion

Add on that there was a literal cop enabler flip
I don't know anything about setup.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:32 pm
by Noraa
In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
pfft now you stop tunneling?
Ok fine if {Insano, Unwnd, Andres, Geraint} are all town, its flavor, not Dunn.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:32 pm
by Noraa
In post 2282, Dunnstral wrote:don't shoot insaneo tonight

bad mechanical play
insano protects vig tonight so we don't shoot there.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:33 pm
by Noraa
In post 2286, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2122, PlusJOYED wrote:i think i have a solve now

this is pretty speculative but nopoint saying "maf don't want to stall they want to elim townies" felt genuine to me. I think nopoint was annoyed as maf that he didnt get a mislim. This makes me think that he probably talked in maf chat about his frustration n1 and got some sort of resonance with maf. He'd probably want to push inactive maf slots to join a wagon otherwise. To me the other person most frusterated with inactivity day 1 was uwnd, so this kind of implicates him to me but the idea is a bit of a stretch.

uwnd's suggestion really pinged me. since uwnd knew I'd very likely shoot between gera and uwnd after noraa elim, he was very survivalistic for a VT suggesting that we elim gera and have me choose between andres and noraa: too much self-preservation for a VT imo.

therefore, my solve is nopoint/noraa/uwnd.

This was my solve yesterday. I’m pretty sure I was wrong.
and you say this after I'm hammered. good timing.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I just woke up, Noraa. I sleep from like 8am-4pm my time. We’ve been through this.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2288, Noraa wrote:
In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
pfft now you stop tunneling?
Ok fine if {Insano, Unwnd, Andres, Geraint} are all town, its flavor, not Dunn.
How is this me stopping a tunnel? We’re in twilight.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:41 pm
by Noraa
Geraint or Andres get shot tonight. There are no other choices.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:43 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Full disclosure, now that I’m last up.

I am an Informed townie who knows there is a vigilante enabler in the game. I think it is Insaneo. I used to think it was Unwnd, but I challenged Unwnd after I claimed, and he really didn’t understand anything, which is when my read on them started turning.

Insaneo was the one to comment on my Vigilante Enabler claim and went “i believe this because my role.” I thought they were Vig until Plusjoyed came, and then bodyguard didn’t seem like a role the necessitates Vig. On top of Nopoint trying to counterclaim me, Nopoint pushed me because he knew there was an enabler on his team that I claimed, and they chose to not counterclaim me.

Andres/Geraint could have it, but with Noraa’s post in twilight, I think scum is Noraa/Insaneo.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:44 pm
by Flavor Leaf
i really think Insaneo is scum here, Dunnstral.

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:46 pm
by Andresvmb
Wait, why are you revealing at this stage that you lied about your claim? Why not wait until tomorrow? And you still think that Noraa is Scum despite the amount of drivel she’s spewed after being hammered?

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:47 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 2281, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually don’t think Noraa’s Vig pool is bad if she is town.

If she is scum, don’t shoot Andres, shoot Insaneo or geraint.
I'm leaning unwd currently

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:47 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 2295, Flavor Leaf wrote:i really think Insaneo is scum here, Dunnstral.
no way, he's basically conftown imo

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:49 pm
by PlusJOYED
someone other than uwnd explain why uwnd is town because I haven't seen it at all