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In post 1817, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1294, skitter30 wrote:Honestly i think he's just busy irl, see the recent panic room when je was scum but couldnt play due to busy-ness - when he *was* around, he actually efforted and tried to make himself look townie and solving

Here he just doesnt care. I think for him, in that context, this is townie
[Redacted] supports that as well

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And: :) ~on the road to hell~

In post 1302, skitter30 wrote:I think if he's busy he isnt going to be putting much effort in, but as scum he will *try to look like he is*, and that he'll be political to try to get the players he thinks he needs to tr him to tr him (i.e. often me)

He isnt doing that here, so i think its townie

But fair enuf if you dont want to metadive, fark, or if you want more from him before you tr him, pooky

But i see him starting to collect votes and i just wanted to say that i'm not a fan particularly

I do think lucy is an alt and i also think i know who she is

In post 2273, Luca Blight wrote:I’m not really SR’ing Mena based on meta, I just think he’s been scummy generally.

I don’t feel he’s been genuinely solving

and his stance on me/Norwee was so bad

In post 2269, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2080, LegoLucy wrote:

In post 2076, Chara wrote:i have experienced her scumgame only once, i didn't townread her but also didn't manage to catch her.
not that i plan to use meta here.

Lucy: did you explain the process of scumreading skitter for WKing Mena, while voting Mena?

She defended him in a way that I didn't see her doing as a pair. People have pointed out she'd probably bus and I agree.

I've scumread skitter more throughout the game so it didn't take much for me to switch.

I think I've been over it but I'm in a mood to talk about this game ad nauseam kinda, somehow.

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this. is. not. how. he. approaches. this. as. scum

luca and fark and norwee are citing like six-month old meta and saying that he's scummy because of it
i'm citing things that happened literally last week and the week prior and am trying to say that they're all hopelessly out of date at best and are scumreading him for not looking like his classicial town meta when i dont' think he would here *as either alignment*

why on earth any of you think you're more of an authority on this than i am is utterly baffling to me

given that context of course i'm gonna defend him from nonsensical pushes that are ridiculous, no? what do yout hink i should do, just sit here and let you misflip him? like .....

and if i did i'd get called scum who's sitting here
y'all have set up a dynamic where i'm wrong no matter how i approach this

and i'm telling you lot that you're. wrong. on. mena. anyways.

In post 2253, Farkran wrote:

In post 2189, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why would skitter scum pump the brakes on a mena town miselim that is lookjng likely to go thru? this table is stacked af - there is not a single lhf. you think scum will fight agajnst a miselim on town that hard?

No lhfs what

The suji/PP slot has been the epitome of lhf since the beginning of this game, besides mena

And PP was on the mena wagon

Pedit: i'll be with you in a minute, almost over

In post 2135, LegoLucy wrote:The hedgy language in this post and the assumptions about Luca's attentions were really TMI. A really unnatural thing about it a relative lack of content on Norwee, which was not instinctive for me as town, instinctively I wanted to be transparent about how my thought process compared and contrasted with Luca's. If Luca suddenly dropped support, I'd have more to explain on my own progression, skitter doesn't.

This wagon is soooo safe.
And I don't think she expects it to last a long time.
Idk I feel like there's a lot about this post I can't quite articulate it has qualities where it is "fine" that I think are explained by skitter not sucking at the game of mafia rather than this actually being the healthy way sheeping occurs.

In post 2135, LegoLucy wrote:This is one of those posts that makes me feel both that skitter/mena can't contain 2 scum and skitter likely contains one scum
Who writes a quadruply hedged scumlean post? The timing was weird to me too.

But it's part of what I was talking about in terms of her trying to get interactions that are favorable to her instead of trying to solve the game.

She doesn't present some small minor point to kick off this dialogue which is more towards what I'd expect a transparent townie to do. She just starts this totally open-ended interaction with Menalque that can go, like, lots of places she could want it to?

IDK I don't feel either of these are amazingly easy to articulate.
She's really deficient on townblocking the segment of the game that seems like it deserves to be townblocked, to me, that does some of it for me.

In post 2220, LegoLucy wrote:disagreed with lie she dayviged the person who put the wagon to e-1 or disagreed with like she said "i know he's scum because i played with in this completed game some of y'all are in, now join me on this wagon I know approximately zero of you like :upside down smile emoji:"

In post 2279, Farkran wrote:Ok

But your take on Lucy is still terrible and it does not feel like you were pushing her way to save menalque

That's the reason why we're scumreading you now

In post 1144, skitter30 wrote:Mena actually you maybe feel a littlw scummy to me (?)
I'm not sure tho

(To be clear i'm not like pushing you per se but rather want to try to get a better vibe)

In post 1149, skitter30 wrote:Yes basically. Probably isnt ai
Honestly you being so blunt abt it makes me feel better

In post 2157, Ydrasse wrote:

In post 1989, skitter30 wrote:i feel like you've decided you want to scumread me and are thus working backwards to find reasons to justify it

so uh, question here, while i'm catching up... hasn't lucy been scumreading you to some degree most of the game? at the start, there was a bit of like "oh this is a little towny" but then it went to "i'm unsure" in 755 and then from there it's been a fairly consistent scumread? like, i guess the wording of this post implies a sense of it being recent to me but there's... progression there, even if it's in the gimmicky typing style

why would lucy decide to not go with the earlier tr and just keep off of your radar? knowing now who it is lucy is capable enough to go toe-to-toe, sure, but that seems like a lot of unnecessary effort instead of what she's done this game about your slot imo?

In post 2232, Farkran wrote:Scum!skit does wk town!mena here, she's done that with me in our newbie game together

In post 2236, Farkran wrote:

In post 1865, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:thats a fair point

VOTE: lucy

I mean i made a promise but why is anyone else townreading pooky now?

Man this is terrible...

In post 2285, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2279, Farkran wrote:Ok

But your take on Lucy is still terrible and it does not feel like you were pushing her way to save menalque

That's the reason why we're scumreading you now

beause her take on me and mena was terrible ....
i mean from my perspective how do you think her take looks ...


This is how you see it:

In post 2240, Farkran wrote:

In post 1899, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1893, Day wrote:

In post 1882, skitter30 wrote:right, the person she just voted to e1

I can sympathize with reading two players independently and not doing pre-flip team reads but I agree it is a little jarring in this case.

she's literally going: e-1 mena
and then shortly thereafter saying that i'm scum trying to pocket him

why and how she switched from one to the other isn't clear, and those universes don't make sense to believe in at the same time

And this is scummy how...?

i.e. in what universe scum!lucy unvotes town!mena to go on a crusade against town!skit?

In post 2285, skitter30 wrote:and what exactly is my motivation for pushing her as scum again if i'm not trying to save mena, which i believe was the prior motivation ascribed to me?

In post 2164, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 1755, Luca Blight wrote:I actually am getting some Town vibes from Menalque

The thing is, if Mena is town then his towngame has completely degenerated and become this lazy: "sure wagon me i don’t rly care" style where he doesn’t want to try anymore.

And Skitter professing this is absolutely 100% town Mena does give me bad vibes it could be a townflip with Skitter setting up to look good with a townflip. But then again, it would be like 50/50 then, when originally my confidence was a lot higher. So i think it’s a good thing you unvoted because there’s clearly something fucky going on and i don’t know if it’s because Mena is just scum, Skitter is scum chainsawing, or it’s SvS somehow.
If both town it would be weird because something about Mena/Skitter interactions feels fake/like one is pocketing another.

In post 2169, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 1829, skitter30 wrote:i'm on a not-try-hard trajectory, which i think explains most of that, and if you are who i think you are you should be cognizant of that

and yes i understand that you guys aren't gonna like that i'm calling you out given the mutual townreading you have going on, but that's how i see it

Extreme frown

In post 2171, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

the interaction between mena/skitter is pretty common for the two of them in a game together.

mena literally has the same stance towards skitter every game.

and i dont see scum skitter brake pumping a mena mis elim this early in the game esp at a stacked table.

In post 2174, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 1917, skitter30 wrote:i also want to say (again) that i think that posting in an intentionally opaque fashion after other people have said it's hard to parse is scummy, even if it's a gimmick
(especially if it's a gimmick)

I’d argue the opposite.