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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:19 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2274, DrippingGoofball wrote:Lukewarm, what are your thoughts on Kyouko?
Leaning town. But not one of my strongest reads this game

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:21 pm
by Kate Bishop
Luke’s just worried this is all bloodstained 2.0

:)

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:24 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2276, Kate Bishop wrote:Luke’s just worried this is all bloodstained 2.0

:)
I am not sure what this is referring to about that game?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:29 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1925, Titus wrote:
In post 1922, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1913, Titus wrote:
In post 210, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 205, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 197, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role
. I begin the game brainwashed.
At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.
Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you
begin the game
brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?
You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.
This hosility seems unwarranted. One innocent question and you're overreacting to get him not to look further. Only the last sentence was necessary.
No one would call this hostility. Only you, and only when you have an agenda to push.
Reading into how people phrase things is part of sorting them. You and I are both aware of this. Yet, your post to Toog was telling him to not ask you for details and here you're claiming it's an agenda to ask for more information from you.

You know what, let's fight this out. I think (so far), that there's a decent chance you're scum. Let's argue around slots in the game.

If it's T v T, we get unique insights. If you're scum, you either act as a chicken shit or give content. So I'm picking a fight with you.

I also doubt you're a gravedigger when the only tracker is ridiculously gated.
LLD hasn't claimed Gravedigger and nobody has claimed Tracker so...?
I'd vote here now if I was caught up but I'm like 10 pages behind

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:35 pm
by Kate Bishop
I am just teasing you about your read Luke

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:36 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2233, ManateeGal wrote:
In post 2231, Dunnstral wrote:Hi, I don't really like the turn this game has taken.

Manatee, what
are
you planning on doing?
killing titus w my shot
We are waiting for you

I don't understand why we have to have the other elimination primed for you to lock it in

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:39 pm
by Titus
I haven't caught up completely with all that's happened since my last post.

However, a pattern I have realized is that each claim comes with a positive for town except for LLD. LLD claims this brainwash is a full claim. That means, as a role, LLD stands out and provides no utility.

LLD is a very emotionally manipulative player in most of the games I have played with them. They have no qualms about that as either alignment which makes them harder to sort. I feel like they've grown and made me grow as a person. That doesn't change my expectations of them though.

LLD should see my emotional state is the exact same as Bloodstained, yet they don't. The only anomaly is that I don't have a plan to verify my reads. I expect LLD to read my emotional consistency even if they disagree with my read on them.

LLD's goal has been to get ManateeGal to shoot threats to her, rather than to shoot scum. However, I'm not going to lie in that I have minor paranoia of DGB.

I'll be looking at this more tomorrow. I'm just wanting to lay out where I am at and ask for help here. I respect LLD as a person and I listen to them, but that doesn't change my view of them.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:40 pm
by Titus
In post 2278, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1925, Titus wrote:
In post 1922, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1913, Titus wrote:
In post 210, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 205, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 197, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Hey,

Rhiannon playing this game. How fortunate for you, not so fortunate for us, I suppose.

Our role is a trashheap pure negative utility role
. I begin the game brainwashed.
At night, the scum may use me to perform their night kills.

Oh, and I have the town win condition but thankfully I've been told that I don't count towards the Mafia despite being brainwashed, so that's good at least.
Is there any indication on how to remove the brainwashing? If you
begin the game
brainwashed, there is a chance you can break the brainwashing, no?
You should really not read into how I phrase these things. I'm purposefully trying to dodge directly quoting the role PM by accident. As far as I'm aware, I have no method of breaking the brainwashing.
This hosility seems unwarranted. One innocent question and you're overreacting to get him not to look further. Only the last sentence was necessary.
No one would call this hostility. Only you, and only when you have an agenda to push.
Reading into how people phrase things is part of sorting them. You and I are both aware of this. Yet, your post to Toog was telling him to not ask you for details and here you're claiming it's an agenda to ask for more information from you.

You know what, let's fight this out. I think (so far), that there's a decent chance you're scum. Let's argue around slots in the game.

If it's T v T, we get unique insights. If you're scum, you either act as a chicken shit or give content. So I'm picking a fight with you.

I also doubt you're a gravedigger when the only tracker is ridiculously gated.
LLD hasn't claimed Gravedigger and nobody has claimed Tracker so...?
I'd vote here now if I was caught up but I'm like 10 pages behind
LLD claimed being taken over by the kill which is a temporary gravedigger.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:41 pm
by Dunnstral
VOTE: WhemeStar

I do not think their stance on Cabd/LLD this game comes from town

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:41 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko

Marking my spot for later

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:52 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 2282, Titus wrote:
LLD claimed being taken over by the kill which is a temporary gravedigger.
gravedigger is another name for coroner, which is a role that gets otherwise hidden information about a dead player.

That has nothing to do with LLD's claimed role.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:53 pm
by ManateeGal
i think it is shitty to have a player effectively dead if the lim is not gonna happen for a while after. ive said this before and will say it again

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:57 pm
by Kate Bishop
Manatee you are stalling the day. Whoever you vote while dead at the end still has a chance to impact today and use their vote.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:58 pm
by Kate Bishop
I’m not trying to be mean, but you need to consider gamestate if you are town

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:58 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 2286, ManateeGal wrote:i think it is shitty to have a player effectively dead if the lim is not gonna happen for a while after. ive said this before and will say it again
Maybe I'm not a typical player, but when I'm town being foregone-dead pisses me off, but I still give a shit about my wincon and I still keep working through stuff. Knowing my thoughts are about to be confirmed town thoughts is consolation prize enough to keep trying to figure things out.

I think you overestimate the awfulness of being effectively dead in a mafia game.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:59 pm
by Kate Bishop
Anyway.

I'm seriously short on sleep, but no nap for me :/

Luke, anything you want to discuss?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:02 pm
by ManateeGal
HURT: Titus

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:07 pm
by Kate Bishop
You're a good soul, manatee.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:09 pm
by ManateeGal
:]

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:09 pm
by Lukewarm
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:11 pm
by ManateeGal
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:11 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 2290, Kate Bishop wrote:Luke, anything you want to discuss?
I've been out of the house most of the day, so I feel like I'm missing stuff from today, so I don't know atm.

At one point people were talking a lot about kyouko. What are your thoughts there?

Also, who is your top target for the vote out? Still wheme?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:16 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 2296, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2290, Kate Bishop wrote:Luke, anything you want to discuss?
I've been out of the house most of the day, so I feel like I'm missing stuff from today, so I don't know atm.

At one point people were talking a lot about kyouko. What are your thoughts there?

Also, who is your top target for the vote out? Still wheme?
notsci's first DM to me after manatee's vote was "Now let’s kill wheme", so currently, yes.

Re kyouko, I've progressively liked her posts more over time, but I have concerns since DGB has pointed out she's been much more engaged than here in recent town games. Before I saw that, I was wondering if she tends to play in sort of catch mode and doesn't interact directly much with other players.

Given current state of sleep, I probably won't do any meta-ing until sometime tomorrow.

Have you played with her? If so, what do you think of DGB's take on her towngame?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:18 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2287, Kate Bishop wrote:Manatee you are stalling the day. Whoever you vote while dead at the end still has a chance to impact today and use their vote.
Yeah to be clear, I moved my vote with the expectation that manatee was going on titus

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:18 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2275, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2274, DrippingGoofball wrote:Lukewarm, what are your thoughts on Kyouko?
Leaning town. But not one of my strongest reads this game
WHY