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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:45 am
by Wisdom
pagetop

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:47 am
by Wisdom
In post 1608, Galron wrote:If Notsci thinks I'm scum, he and Spiffy are moving into my scum pile along with Pav and Dunn.
rule of 3 says hi to pav

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:48 am
by Wisdom
But eh probably less accurate when youre guiltied and almost dead

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:53 am
by Wisdom
In post 1615, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1599, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That is 2 very good players who rarely agree, agreeing. That should tell you something.
This gives me a little pause

DV quotes this mockingly, and given the thing LLD and I agree on is Galron not dying, it's a weird thing to mock for a Galron scumbuddy

And tbh if he's town I'm inclined to agree with this. My LLD paranoia is increasing.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:55 am
by Wisdom
In post 1618, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1615, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1599, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That is 2 very good players who rarely agree, agreeing. That should tell you something.
This post was meant to be accompanied by

"I can't handle this stroking of Wisdom's ego, but otherwise, good post.

Galron I thought you were only voting Dunn as the biggest counter, not due to Dunn being in your scumpile"
or nevermind, disregard the previous post completely

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:56 am
by Off The Hook
I think ro3 is more applicable to newer players

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:57 am
by Lukewarm
Titus what pushed you over to voting dv?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:00 am
by Wisdom
In post 1638, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OTH/Galron
I feel like you know better than this

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:00 am
by Titus
In post 2281, Lukewarm wrote:Titus what pushed you over to voting dv?
The fact apparently he could talk to Juliet. Makes me think my role is a CC.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:04 am
by Off The Hook
VOTE: DeasVail

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:14 am
by Lukewarm
In post 2283, Titus wrote:
In post 2281, Lukewarm wrote:Titus what pushed you over to voting dv?
The fact apparently he could talk to Juliet. Makes me think my role is a CC.
But can't you confirm it via his ability to talk to GuiltyLion?

Or do you just think that means one town and one scum with the ability?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:16 am
by Wisdom
In post 1796, Pavowski wrote:If I'm scum with Galron, I'd be taking the opportunity to vote Dunn (as some other people have pretty vehemently pushed for, and he's a decent second wagon).
Already addressed that today when he repeated it, but nope. Like I said in regards to OTH, scum dont vote the counterwagon when their buddy is guiltied. It's just asking for trouble.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:17 am
by Lukewarm
Like, are you saying that he is lying because you can cc, or are you saying that it is real but you think that makes him scum?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:23 am
by Wisdom
In post 1823, Dunnstral wrote:It sounds like your role turned yourself vanilla for targeting wrong
Or for choosing the wrong box?

What if the one who offered you the boxes is scum and you get vanillized for choosing wrong

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:23 am
by Wisdom
^@icebox

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:23 am
by Titus
In post 2285, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2283, Titus wrote:
In post 2281, Lukewarm wrote:Titus what pushed you over to voting dv?
The fact apparently he could talk to Juliet. Makes me think my role is a CC.
But can't you confirm it via his ability to talk to GuiltyLion?

Or do you just think that means one town and one scum with the ability?
I have already confirmed DV and GuiltyLion are in communication. GuiltyLion can send a message to DV through the mod.

I think one town one scum with the ability.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:31 am
by Wisdom
In post 1887, Galron wrote:LLD probably town too.
In post 1888, Galron wrote:LLD, I will never ever ever let you push me around.
I could see this as being scum theatre with LLD being a buddy

Galron is evidently in trolling mode given the following post
In post 1892, Galron wrote:I want to be cremated and sprinkled over the scum team.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:47 am
by Wisdom
And thus I finished D2 and I'm done rereading

Things learned:

- OTH is never a Galron buddy. Scum don't vote the guilty scum's counterwagon after the guilty.
- Pav, Ceph and DV continue being the most likely buddies for both Juliet and Galron.
- Pav and DV are probably not scum together. Pav felt like he picked up on the guilty and secured an early bus, while DV tried to steer against the Galron wagon before the guilty was known. If they were on the same team, Pav would warn and DV would not do this.
- LLD joins the scumpool. Her approach to Galron is weird, she supposedly disbelieve Galron's claim but wants Dunn, who obviously is not a Galron buddy, dead. She is a very capable scum player and this could easily be a powerplay to give Galron a night and get a town lim. She can get out of this even if Galron will flip eventually. Galron remembering to include LLD in his "final reads" could easily be what he thought would be distancing. He wasnt a very good scum player.
- I found no reasons whatsoever to doubt my townreads on {Titus, Luke, Skybird, OTH, Icebox, Bowser, COF}. A townblock which Dunn also joins now due to anti-associatives with Galron.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:51 am
by Wisdom
And the last thing is that I happen to know the identity of the box giver, thats why I'm putting this up for discussion.
In post 2288, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1823, Dunnstral wrote:It sounds like your role turned yourself vanilla for targeting wrong
Or for choosing the wrong box?

What if the one who offered you the boxes is scum and you get vanillized for choosing wrong

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:53 am
by DeasVail
In post 2228, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2222, DeasVail wrote:but as someone who is known (at least in my experience with him) to be very headstrong about reads even when they're wrong, to go ridiculously all in on Galron being town feels like a good strategy for Wisdom-scum. I don't think he's town because I don't think town in their right mind could have been so confident in Galron being town.
Youre contradicting yourself
"Wisdom is known to be headstrong even if he's wrong"
"I can't see how Wisdom can be so confident"
Nah

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:55 am
by Wisdom
sorry dv but yes. Either I'm headstrong and confident and many times wrong or I'm not.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:55 am
by DeasVail
In post 2249, Off The Hook wrote:Wait Titus you’re claiming to be in a hood with GL who is dead? What do you make of DV claiming the same?
this is not what I'm claiming fwiw

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:56 am
by DeasVail
In post 2295, Wisdom wrote:Either I'm headstrong and confident and many times wrong or I'm not.
Yes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:57 am
by DeasVail
In post 2253, Titus wrote:
In post 2250, Lukewarm wrote:If yes, DV is also claiming to be in a pt with him, and we should definitely test for this
The way it sounds like theirs is a one time message.
This is correct

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:00 am
by DeasVail
Okay I've caught up. The time for being vague is over.

Part of my role is that I can choose one newly dead player each day and send a message to them and they can send me a message back.

There are other, less important, components to my role, which I am willing to full-claim under the usual circumstances.