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FL indeed acted that way - you are trying to pretend like he didn't get uppity every time someone tried to put pressure on his progression.

In post 2272, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2266, koopashell wrote:

NK15 stopped pushing Mala after she posted a bunch of game advancing content - how is that bad?

I too flipped my read based on that -
This isnt about inconsistency in reads - this is straight up having no real reason for the read and pretending like they do.

This is not why they stopped pushing Mala, they stopped pushing Mala because they claimed to have missed a post from them early game re their reasons for supposedly being happy to be town with JV. They went from seeing Mala as "obvious" scum to dropping the read incredibly early on.

And thats towny as fuck to do - unless Mala is wolf.

In post 2271, koopashell wrote:Now prove its a misrep by quoting FL posts that debunk it.

Flavor responds and disagrees with the read in the very posts I've quoted? The interactions are there for you to see if you literally click back. If you have time to do full meta's on NK15 when you've never played with them before, to the point where it determines your read on them to a large degree, I don't think that is particularly difficult.

Imagine being wolfread for updating your reads in real time based on new posts.
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this NK15.

In post 2276, koopashell wrote:

In post 2272, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2266, koopashell wrote:

NK15 stopped pushing Mala after she posted a bunch of game advancing content - how is that bad?

I too flipped my read based on that -
This isnt about inconsistency in reads - this is straight up having no real reason for the read and pretending like they do.

This is not why they stopped pushing Mala, they stopped pushing Mala because they claimed to have missed a post from them early game re their reasons for supposedly being happy to be town with JV. They went from seeing Mala as "obvious" scum to dropping the read incredibly early on.

And thats towny as fuck to do - unless Mala is wolf.

So why isn't it townie when FL's read on Roden evolved substantially? You've taken one minor differentiation in how they were casing Roden and used it to claim you have caught mafia, sorry but this is inherently ridiculous.

In post 2270, koopashell wrote:

In post 2267, MathBlade wrote:FL never cases people. That’s not his thing. So yeah I have 0 concern.

My bigger concern is why you won’t talk about your NK15 read.

With your hyperposting and ultradefensiveness if you weren’t a claimed PR I would be elimming you.

It’s infuriating how anytime a wagon gets going you shut it down.

He was asked to quote posts from roden that substantiated his read. Not a hard task.

You refuse to see it from the other side. I have considered FL town - and that is evidence in my ISO.

Not going to hunt and peck and try to prove something I don’t believe in.
I have reevaluated FL slot 3-4 times. I am getting ready for work.
This thread is a behemoth.

I am pretty sure I can scum case anyone.
But just because I could doesn’t make it accurate.

In post 2278, koopashell wrote:Imagine being wolfread for updating your reads in real time based on new posts.
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this NK15.

You know this is not the primary reason I wolfread NK15, can you actually take some time to read the replies I'm posting here?

I expect an apology when I end up being right about FL.

In post 2281, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2278, koopashell wrote:Imagine being wolfread for updating your reads in real time based on new posts.
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this NK15.

You know this is not the primary reason I wolfread NK15, can you actually take some time to read the replies I'm posting here?

NK15 is limbait in all his games. You need better if he's actually showing solvy mindset.

In post 2282, koopashell wrote:I expect an apology when I end up being right about FL.

You said similar about Mala.

You’re the boy who claimed wolf who refuses to explain their NK15 read.

It creates spam and bloat so a wagon can’t take off.

Please work with people.

And no if FL flips scum you get no apology from me because even if you believe this FL has two buddies, who are they?

Look, unlike Koopa I'm willing to accept I might be wrong on Gamma down the line and I may have to reevaluate my read. Town should be able to do this. But I don't think the slot is mafia, nor does Math, and nor do seemingly the majority of players. A lot of this will be wasted energy Koopa because unless you can give us new information we are not intending to get rid of the slot today. Your arguments here are fundamentally not convincing me otherwise because you approach the game in a way where you want to confirm your own bias. Every small thing you dislike in Flavor's gameplay is used as a justification for your read.

I say this as town - you are constantly clogging up the thread with repetitive arguments which will make it easier for mafia to hide down the line and avoid engaging in arguments when you have developed an obsession with one slot. As a townie your posts are not helping me solve the game or hunt mafia and I don't get the impression I am alone in that. I'm more than happy to work with you and at times I've appreciated your enthusiasm in trying to drive things forward but if you are town you need to engage with us in a way which will actually help town win the game.

In post 2272, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2266, koopashell wrote:

NK15 stopped pushing Mala after she posted a bunch of game advancing content - how is that bad?

I too flipped my read based on that -
This isnt about inconsistency in reads - this is straight up having no real reason for the read and pretending like they do.

This is not why they stopped pushing Mala, they stopped pushing Mala because they claimed to have missed a post from them early game re their reasons for supposedly being happy to be town with JV. They went from seeing Mala as "obvious" scum to dropping the read incredibly early on.

Correct. I saw a scumslip that wasn't really there. My concerns were addressed.
In contrast, my concerns with FL's read progression and their reaction to my initial concerns were not addressed.

He has a weird playstyle. That doesn't make him wolf. Case closed. When he was pushed he kept posting normally. He did not shrink back. Like come the fuck on guys - this is so lazy. NK15 plays different so he is easy to eliminate - his wolf games are very subdued and he is not subdued here.

In post 2282, koopashell wrote:I expect an apology when I end up being right about FL.

This is a deduction game, people get things wrong, I've been miseliminated as town before, it's crap but I don't demand an apology because I've made identical errors. It's D1, it is fundamentally hard to eliminate mafia, if it wasn't town would win all the time.

In post 2284, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2282, koopashell wrote:I expect an apology when I end up being right about FL.

You said similar about Mala.

You’re the boy who claimed wolf who refuses to explain their NK15 read.

It creates spam and bloat so a wagon can’t take off.

Please work with people.

And no if FL flips scum you get no apology from me because even if you believe this FL has two buddies, who are they?

I did fucking explain it - and you think it isnt valid reasoning like all the other people who like miseliminating NK.

In post 2285, MalcolmTucker wrote:Look, unlike Koopa I'm willing to accept I might be wrong on Gamma down the line and I may have to reevaluate my read. Town should be able to do this. But I don't think the slot is mafia, nor does Math, and nor do seemingly the majority of players. A lot of this will be wasted energy Koopa because unless you can give us new information we are not intending to get rid of the slot today. Your arguments here are fundamentally not convincing me otherwise because you approach the game in a way where you want to confirm your own bias. Every small thing you dislike in Flavor's gameplay is used as a justification for your read.

I say this as town - you are constantly clogging up the thread with repetitive arguments which will make it easier for mafia to hide down the line and avoid engaging in arguments when you have developed an obsession with one slot. As a townie your posts are not helping me solve the game or hunt mafia and I don't get the impression I am alone in that. I'm more than happy to work with you and at times I've appreciated your enthusiasm in trying to drive things forward but if you are town you need to engage with us in a way which will actually help town win the game.

+1 this

Can we just lim Koopa?

We’re on page 92..

This game would be just as good with about half the posting. Almost 500 already is excessive… im becoming more tolerant of hyper posters but I feel like a replacement right now.

Pedit— here we go again

I will be dead night 1 and no one will reevaluate the slot until it is too late rofl.
I know how the game works. People dont listen to legacies.

In post 2291, Scorpious wrote:Can we just lim Koopa?

We’re on page 92..

This game would be just as good with about half the posting. Almost 500 already is excessive… im becoming more tolerant of hyper posters but I feel like a replacement right now.

Pedit— here we go again

We could eliminate you for openly advocating eliminating PRs.

In post 2293, koopashell wrote:

In post 2291, Scorpious wrote:Can we just lim Koopa?

We’re on page 92..

This game would be just as good with about half the posting. Almost 500 already is excessive… im becoming more tolerant of hyper posters but I feel like a replacement right now.

Pedit— here we go again

We could eliminate you for openly advocating eliminating PRs.

For the love of god, please just… shut up.

This is a mini normal flirting with 2500 posts on D1…

Please…stop….posting..

In post 2292, koopashell wrote:I will be dead night 1 and no one will reevaluate the slot until it is too late rofl.
I know how the game works. People dont listen to legacies.

If we eliminate town tonight I will absolutely be looking at the slot again tomorrow. You know how the game works (likely better than me) but so do several regular and experienced posters here who disagree with you. Your opinion is worthy of consideration but not automatically worth more than theirs either. If you expect people to listen to you in a deduction game you need to actually convince them of your argument instead of telling us all how great you are and how you have solved this game immediately.

In post 2284, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2282, koopashell wrote:I expect an apology when I end up being right about FL.

You said similar about Mala.

You’re the boy who claimed wolf who refuses to explain their NK15 read.

It creates spam and bloat so a wagon can’t take off.

Please work with people.

And no if FL flips scum you get no apology from me because even if you believe this FL has two buddies, who are they?

VOTE: HEM
Let's drop FL for now. But please do reevaluate your reads on the FL slot later.

I can't help people who get spoonfed evidence and have misconceptions on what constitutes an actual tell in the game.

In post 2295, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2292, koopashell wrote:I will be dead night 1 and no one will reevaluate the slot until it is too late rofl.
I know how the game works. People dont listen to legacies.

If we eliminate town tonight I will absolutely be looking at the slot again tomorrow. You know how the game works (likely better than me) but so do several regular and experienced posters here who disagree with you. Your opinion is worthy of consideration but not automatically worth more than theirs either. If you expect people to listen to you in a deduction game you need to actually convince them of your argument instead of telling us all how great you are and how you have solved this game immediately.

This is there second game here. There should be no greatness conversation.

I firmly think Koopa feels out posting everyone is a sign of skill..

VOTE: HEM
I believe i was already here but I want this if I can't have FL.