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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
by Aristeia
like if it wasnt for how much respect I hold for skitter/bh/datisi's ability to read you I would 10000% hard shove you here and kill you but I am practicing restraint this game because I did not enjoy hard shoving last game so I'm trying out being a nice person this game.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
by fireisredsir
meta read nk and am feeling p confident he is scum btw

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 am
by Menalque
VOTE: ari

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 am
by Menalque
Sad you ninja’d me to that bloodhail

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 am
by Menalque
In my experience you claiming you wouldn’t do something as scum is incredibly +scum for you

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:46 am
by bloodhail
In post 2273, Menalque wrote:
In post 2270, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2267, Menalque wrote:You’re attempting to redirect the wagon back towards me for what I think are very poor reasons and if bloodhail is town then you’ve also been fencesitting and allowing a t/t conflict to play out most of the day

I don’t see why you would be doing differently as scum here when you’re not in any danger and the more slots you can keep viable going into D2/D3 the better for you
3 people have said my reasons are very valid and they can't all be scum with me
People being wrong, especially when one of those people, if town, has been tunnelled on me for most of the day, is not unexpected
In post 2271, bloodhail wrote:
In post 2268, Menalque wrote:
In post 2265, bloodhail wrote:don't say cfd thanks
?
it's really racist dude


just use the good old fashioned flashwagon
I’m not aware of how but sure, and I guess I’ll look into it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_f ... ll#Origins
Historians trace Westerners' use of the word Chinese to denote "confusion" and "incomprehensibility" to the earliest contacts between Europeans and Chinese people in the 1600s, and attribute it to Europeans' inability to understand China's radically different culture and world view.[5] In his 1989 Dictionary of Invective, British editor Hugh Rawson lists 16 phrases that use the word Chinese to denote "incompetence, fraud and disorganization".[6]
bad stuff. i don't like fighting over it elsewhere but it's not a regular part of the MS vernacular and shouldn't be

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:46 am
by Menalque
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
This makes perfect sense for you to do as scum because it conserves the t/t datisi/bloodhail fight for tomorrow

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:47 am
by Menalque
Oh mmm okay that is kind of gross @bloodhail

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:49 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2281, Menalque wrote:
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
This makes perfect sense for you to do as scum because it conserves the t/t datisi/bloodhail fight for tomorrow
how is burning towncred by last minute forcing through a (fypov) town lim outside the 1v1 better than just letting two town elims happen and probably winning in elo

this does not make perfect sense

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:50 am
by Datisi
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
why not?

i was going to comment that saving me/bh for tomorrow would be a possible play so i don't get what's so impossible about this from you

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:50 am
by Aristeia
In post 2273, Menalque wrote:People being wrong, especially when one of those people, if town, has been tunnelled on me for most of the day, is not unexpected
being wrong about your alignment and thinking my reasoning is poor is unrelated.

For example; Bloodhail is hard townbinning you and thinks my reasoning is valid but not a reason to hard scumbin you.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:51 am
by Menalque
There is no guarantee that two town elims happen and we both know that your approach as scum is to just survive the day

It doesn’t matter if you burn towncred mislimming me if there is then a big t/t fight the next day because whoever “wins” on D2 also looks bad on D3 and towns have notoriously awful memories so are even less likely to remember that you killed town on D1

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:51 am
by Menalque
Datisi would you be willing to vote for Ari?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:52 am
by fireisredsir
if her approach is to just survive the day then there's no reason to do this????

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:52 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2284, Datisi wrote:
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
why not?

i was going to comment that saving me/bh for tomorrow would be a possible play so i don't get what's so impossible about this from you
saving mena for later is also a possible play and requires much less taking obvious noticeable action

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:53 am
by Menalque
In post 2288, fireisredsir wrote:if her approach is to just survive the day then there's no reason to do this????
Sorry, to be clear

There’s a difference between long term planning shit out

And not thinking about the future at all

It is clearly advantageous to conserve a t/t fight for the following day

Ari doesn’t think about exactly who she’s going to bring to elo, but she does obviously see that some things will be advantageous on future days and others won’t

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:54 am
by Datisi
In post 2287, Menalque wrote:Datisi would you be willing to vote for Ari?
i'd be willing to vote for her more than for you

i don't love the way her townread on me seemingly disappeared for ??? reasons as the collective read on me went down the toilet

but i still don't think it's likely she played d1 the way she did as scum, and if she's scum it's with someone who was widely townread so it makes sense to flip there first

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:54 am
by Aristeia
In post 2284, Datisi wrote:
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
why not?

i was going to comment that saving me/bh for tomorrow would be a possible play so i don't get what's so impossible about this from you
that's not how thread dynamics works.

that's not how human nature works.

townies are by design unpredictable.

when I play scum I take my eliminations when I can get them. I do not save them for tomorrow because nobody knows what townies will do when they wake up tommorrow.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:54 am
by bloodhail
i am really supreme uncomfortable at the prospect of the wagon swinging off my top scumread and me having to go through this dance again day 2

i want people to either kill me today or just clear me because the one place i cannot stand to be is alive and perpetually stuck in the poe while getting the freezeout. i cannot live through that nonsense again

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:54 am
by bloodhail
*supremely

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:54 am
by Menalque
In post 2289, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2284, Datisi wrote:
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
why not?

i was going to comment that saving me/bh for tomorrow would be a possible play so i don't get what's so impossible about this from you
saving mena for later is also a possible play and requires much less taking obvious noticeable action
If Ari is scum and datisi/bloodhail are t/t, do you really think that Ari is going to get me to vote skitter over her or get skitter to vote me over her?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:55 am
by Datisi
In post 2289, fireisredsir wrote:saving mena for later is also a possible play and requires much less taking obvious noticeable action
mena is going to have a cooler head later and there won't be the imminent panic of the deadline

like i'm not saying it lockscums her but i can definitely see the idea because deadline panic is a powerful tool

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:55 am
by Menalque
In post 2287, Menalque wrote:Datisi would you be willing to vote for Ari?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:55 am
by Aristeia
In post 2286, Menalque wrote:There is no guarantee that two town elims happen and we both know that your approach as scum is to just survive the day

It doesn’t matter if you burn towncred mislimming me if there is then a big t/t fight the next day because whoever “wins” on D2 also looks bad on D3 and towns have notoriously awful memories so are even less likely to remember that you killed town on D1
yes I'm so desperate to elim you that I'm hard shoving you today when I can just help you mislim irrelephant 3 days ago and bop you the next day

you make so much sense

if you're actually town here you might as well replace yourself with an omgus bot

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:55 am
by skitter30
Ugh i see a lot has happened and i'm like super busy can someone just give me a quick tldr?