Mini 1336 - Revolution Mafia Game Over!

[kuribo]

Trust: Marble
Trust: Darox
Trust: MattP

[GreyICE]

Vote Count 7.3

Not Voting:

IceGuy- Kuribo, BBMolla, MattP, Llamarble

BBMolla

- kanyeknowsbest, IceGuy

Not Voting:

Darox,

A lynch has been achieved as of post #1299

Lynch in: (expired on 2012-09-14 19:44:00)

Trust Tokens

Name	Tokens Given	Tokens Received
BBmolla
Darox		MattP, IceGuy, kuribo
kanyeknowsbest		IceGuy
kuribo	Darox, Llamarble, MattP	Llamarble, MattP, IceGuy
Llamarble	kuribo, MattP	kuribo
MattP	Llamarble, Kuribo, Darox	Llamarble, kuribo
IceGuy	Trust: kanye, kuribo, Darox	MattP

Mission size is 5 Players.

Deadline in:

(expired on 2012-09-19 00:00:00)

[BBmolla]

Trust: Marble
Trust: Darox
Trust: MattP

[MattP]

Mission is me, Llama, Kuribo, Darox and Molla

Trust
BBmolla
Llamarble
Kuribo

[IceGuy]

It doesn't matter.

You just lynched town based on no case whatsoever by initiative of the most scummy people in the game.

Congratulations, stupid fucks.

[Llamarble]

It doesn't matter.

You just lynched town based on no case whatsoever by initiative of the most scummy people in the game.

Congratulations, stupid fucks.

Our odds weren't great by this point anyway, but we'll see.
This wagon is powered by me / Kuribo / MattP so it's not like this is the thing scum decided they wanted.
If Kuribo or MattP are scum then they've played really well this game; anybody else has been pretty lazy and lucky enough to be surrounded by equally lazy town. Not that that's bad or anything; I'd just be really impressed by Kuribo or Matt scum.

Vote: Accelerate

[kuribo]

Yeah, I'd be really impressed by Matt-scum, and Darox-scum would be so ballsy that I'd have to sell him my son.

[MattP]

I wish I was good as scum

I unfortunately can capture my town vigor

VOTE: accelerate

[kanyeknowsbest]

honestyl hope this game is over i cant handle another day of this,

[GreyICE]

Dramatization

Four angry men circled, like hungry wolves. "IceGuy has betrayed us!" They exclaimed. He must be! Even though the day before he had been in a toss up between Concision and IceGuy, and even though they had picked Concision as the traitor, they were convinced that IceGuy was a traitor too.

"String him up! String him up!" chanted MattP
"Oh hell, why not?" questioned Llamarble. "I don't need to do much analysis to figure out IceGuy was scum."
"Heheheheh" chuckled Kuribo darkly. "IceGuy will pay. You will all pay. I WILL RIP OUT YOUR GUTS AND USE THEM TO SWING FROM BUILDINGS LIKE SPIDERMAN!"
"Works for me," shrugs BBMolla. "I honestly don't have a clue what's going on here."

And so the hungry predators tore into IceGuy. Crackling blue electricity surrounded his body, which stiffened, then toppled off the building into an alleyway below. The four predators cheered in celebration. Until they were cut off by a hail of gunfire. So. Much. Gunfire.

"What a bunch of fucking idiots" said movie Darox, slapping another string of bullets into his dramatically oversized chaingun. "Seriously, I don't think they were paying attention to anything that happened all game."

"I dunno," said movie Kanye. He flipped open the barrel of his old-fashioned Tommy Gun, and adjusted his bowler hat. "Sabotaging Concision wasn't the brightest thing you've ever done."

"Oh yeah? Well who was the jerk who kicked me off the mission yesterday?" Darox shot back. Kanye shrugged.

"Seemed like a good idea at the time." He said.

"Well so did that!" Darox shot back.

Kanye thought about it. Concision was a jerk. He kept trying to get Kanye lynched. He turned into some weird multi-headed monster occasionally.

"Yeah, fair enough. Works for me" movie Kanye lit a cigar as he stared at the bleeding corpses of in front of him. "Seriously, these jokers thought they'd overthrow the government? What a bunch of..." *BLEEP* the elevator went, silencing the line that would earn the movie an R rating.

This has been a dramatization of the September Rebellion. All people involved were based on real people. Some names and locations have been changed to protect the people involved in these events.

*Credits*

Llamarble, Kuribo, BBMolla, and MattP

have been killed in endgame.

Darox, kanyeknowsbest, and Concision

have achieved their victory condition and squashed the revolution. Congratulations to our winners!

*postscript*

IceGuy awoke groaning. The last thing he remembered was charred flesh, and a long fall. And yet... he was in a bed. What had happened?

"Don't try to move" the figure warned. "You were beat up pretty badly when I dragged you out of that alley."

"What happened? And who are you?" IceGuy demanded. "What have you done?"

"Oh," the shadowy figure chuckled, "You wouldn't recognize me. I was a latecomer like you, someone who joined to replace one of their original members. And like you, they kicked me out." The figure grinned. "But I'm smarter than them. I outwitted my own death scene. I escaped. And now so have you."

The figure stood, dramatically. "The revolution is necessary. But those people, the originals? They were not the ones to do it. The Replacement Revolutionaries will overturn this corrupt system!"

Voided Mafia, and IceGuy

, Replacement Revolutionaries, have snuck off to form their own revolution without all those other jerks.

[Voidedmafia]

Wait, I do what now?

Anyways, guess I was wrong on BB.

[GreyICE]

Thoughts:

This was yes, heavily based off a certain board game, as several people have noticed. The goal was to make a setup where hunting for town was just as important as hunting for scum, and thus force out the 'race to the bottom' scumplay mentality without being inherently unbalanced. Unfortunately, well... we see how that turned out.

The town seriously shot itself in the foot a number of times. I don't think one townie alive is the least bit surprised Kanye was scum, for instance, but at no point did anyone get together and say "hey, he's actually obvious scum, maybe we should lynch him?"

I don't want to give a town MVP too much, but if I did it would be Vijay2Vasandani, for this post:

Hmmm are you voting?

Also, I'm thinking Concision, kanye and Darox

Unfortunately he lurked and flaked before he could do anything about it, but he was definitely onto the scumteam. To quote Kanye in PM to me, "Goddamn it Vijay!"


The scum MVP... it was hard to tell. Kanye and Darox both played very good games, and CES/Concision was excellent. I think if Darox hadn't chosen to sabotage Concision (ironically to earn him TOWN points) this may have been a flawless scum victory.


Mechanics:

1) The town got between 1 and 3 gadgets every night. I used random.org and a double coinflip method, to increase the odds that it would be around the median. The randomness was to prevent a massclaim breaking the game open, "Okay, we get 2 gadgets every night, until we succeeded in our first mission, then we get three, and we have three claimed this night so all three are confirmed town, but 4 claimed this night so..."

2) Gadgets were, as many of you figured out, mainly to help the town by giving them something to talk about. Like many power roles, they didn't actually do much to catch scum or confirm town, but they gave a lot of points of discussion that just aren't there in a mass vanilla game.

3) The mission was actually the primary mechanic. The rewards were as follows:

1 successful: Town got an extra gadget
2 successful: Mission size reduced by 1
3 successful: Scum stopped learning how many gadgets the town got
4+ Successful: Mission size reduced by 1 for every 2 successful missions

The purpose of the mission size was that the mission would eventually get down to being 2 players (at which point it would freeze). That would mean that to win, the scum would need to mislynch literally all but one townie. Since this is a ridiculous goal that would never happen, scum were STRONGLY encouraged to sabotage through this mechanic.

1 failed: scum got an extra gadget, and learned the name of three town gadgets and their effect (this makes fakeclaiming a LOT easier)
2 failed: scum get a quicktopic (there was a certain level of annoyance when this was discovered)
3 failed: scum get a 1-shot anytime kill that doesn't work in LyLo

Scum gadgets existed mainly to make the town shake up the mission if they hit on a successful configuration. Oh, and mimic town gadgets.

On the plethora of Shoe Phones: I swear to you, there were 7 gadgets for town, and 7 gadgets for scum, and random.org had a 1 in 7 chance of picking Shoe Phone. Which it did about 1 in 3 picks.

[GreyICE]

Wait, I do what now?

Anyways, guess I was wrong on BB.

Well you never died, because there was no death scene. See? You've just been waiting in the wings, starting a new revolution, without the baggage of the old one

I promised you flavor...

[kuribo]

I don't think anyone's surprised about Kanye being scum, so much as... dat powerbus by Concision.

I was wrong about Darox, but that is my only regret.

The town suffered from alot of apathy from what should have been some of its strongest players. (I include myself in this statement)

[GreyICE]

I don't think anyone's surprised about Kanye being scum, so much as... dat powerbus by Concision.

I was wrong about Darox, but that is my only regret.

The town suffered from alot of apathy from what should have been some of its strongest players. (I include myself in this statement)

I have to take some blame for that. My modding was, to put it bluntly, piss-poor. This game was too complex, and I had a tendency to have something going on whenever you guys actually lynched someone (three lynches landed on or before the day I had a job interview, and I was gone all of Labor Day weekend, when I was supposed to open the thread).

Here's the Infiltrators' Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/4VgWs9XyL27
And here's the dead thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/2WVpRPKBxjF

[MattP]

Very frustrated with my play this game

I'm just going to pretend it never happened.

[IceGuy]

Fuck. 0/2.

[kuribo]

Very frustrated with my play this game

I'm just going to pretend it never happened.

[kuribo]

although can I point out again how much I hate, hate HATE when people say "I'm obvtown?"

[Llamarble]

I think I really was obvtown though. Ah well.

Wish we'd lynched Darox after I did my reread.
Can't say Daroxscum or Kanyescum surprise me.
Kanye and CES were on my scumlist for most of the game, and I never really trusted Darox either, so my reads accuracy actually wasn't totally horrible, but I did not handle people calling me scum well. I should just have gone ahead with the HC lynch D2 but I worried a little bit too much about how I would look if it was wrong, and then all the sidetracking and badness happened.
There were good reasons to believe Fate (reverse direction, some other stuff), Vijay (I'm a revolutionary with a power I want to live a night please so I can use it?), Voided (can't remember) were all town. I think Implosion and Spyrex and Elmo mislynches were a little bit less reprehensible, since at least they didn't really have towntells.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I think I really was obvtown though. Ah well.

You were, especially with White Flag as a direct reference.

-I definitely liked the underlying idea for the set-up.
-Darox and Kanye obviously played well. Good stuff.
-Someone really should've called out Regfan for basically disappearing by the end.

[kanyeknowsbest]

tbqh this was honestly the worst scum game ive ever played i think. sometime around day 2 (i think) i decided to just play "dont get lynched" for the rest of the game, and given how passive darox was as well i think that contributed a lot to how frustrating this game was for everyone. imho the delayed lynch mechanic really hurt town. it made town let scum off the lynch something like 3 times and also allowed scum to stay off wagons they didnt want to be on without worrying about no lynch situations. yall were just too indecisive abt lynches and it made slipping out of that noose really easy.

also i think ces's attempts at bussing me were really well done,,nj m8 : ]

[kanyeknowsbest]

fuck i just remembered i had another phone charge i forgot to use

[GreyICE]

tbqh this was honestly the worst scum game ive ever played i think. sometime around day 2 (i think) i decided to just play "dont get lynched" for the rest of the game, and given how passive darox was as well i think that contributed a lot to how frustrating this game was for everyone. imho the delayed lynch mechanic really hurt town. it made town let scum off the lynch something like 3 times and also allowed scum to stay off wagons they didnt want to be on without worrying about no lynch situations. yall were just too indecisive abt lynches and it made slipping out of that noose really easy.

also i think ces's attempts at bussing me were really well done,,nj m8 : ]

Plurality lynches at deadline were necessary because otherwise no-lynching was a breaking strategy (just run missions until either the mission size is 2 or you've confirmed enough people town, one of the two).

The unvoting... yeah, did turn out to be hugely scum sided, and I don't think anyone liked it. I'd certainly never do it again.

You had the most awesomely amusing messages to the mod during the game, btw, although Kuribo was damn close.

[kuribo]

I wasn't sure if threatening to eat someone's skin as if it were fried chicken crossed the lines of good taste, (no pun intended) but there you go