It's not OMGUS if you're scum and I have reasons for thinking that.
But please, go on, try to discredit me.
Fire me up.
Make me care about this game, I fucking dare you
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:12 am
by Kokichi Oma
Maybe state why you think I'm scum first?
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:35 am
by Wisdom
In post 2297, Momrangal wrote:And why would I be able to conf town new wisdom when my accuracy on old wisdom was as good as random?
Or do you not remember all the times we used to cross tunnel each other as town?
What new wisdom? Im really not very different than usual besides trying to talk to people a little more
I don't expect you to feel I'm super town but the reasons that you cited that supposedly are keeping you back from townreading me are not even the right ones
Id understand paranoia because ive fooled you before, or being sceptical because we share flavor like cheeky and sudo, but "alternating between buddying you and pushing you"? I haven't even done either of the two - talking to you was an attempt to read you and my vote hasnt been on you once. And youve seen me actually pushing people and what that entails.
I do remember times we fought as town but what I remember more is that you were one of few people who could tell im town even in playerlists that were difficult for me
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:50 am
by Wisdom
And as such I cant help but think that youre refraining from townreading me because you want to keep this option open for you, especially seeing as people like mastina scumread me, as well as not to encourage those people to stop scumreading me
About this entrance, something caught my attention. "Call me back when the game gets under way."
There are no information at the early stage of the game and all we can do is creating discussion. But the way she says "I'll be back when discussion starts" does not look townie.
I checked Momrangal's 2 games. In mafia month (where she was townie) she outed her reads at post 60 which is helpful to create a discussion. At her first game with this account, she did not out her read but said something about her comeback and rvs voted and she was scum. In this game, she also did not out her read or did anything to get discussion.
I have a weird kinship to Mastina this game and I don't like her being voted before even posting
The last part seems also weird. By weird kinship, could she signaling she is traitor to mastina? I doubt this becasue Nico was obvious town and she is mason with Mastina. Anyways, I think it's more likely a frame to mastina if mom gets lynched.
In post 762, Momrangal wrote:So I'm supposed to put this game over my baby. Got it.
This is totally understandable because game was going waaaaaaaay faster than most games I played.
I don't understand the scumreads, like all of them are people who can easily get lynched. And she explained it with this:
In post 784, Momrangal wrote:Right now, all my scum reads are purely PoE which I'm not sure how to take ATM.
Not gonna explain kokichi. That could drastically change come d2 but I highly doubt it
It was a combination of early game Rvs fun and a little bit of trying to get Mastinas alignment read myself and admittedly I am sleeved by her hard tr on me and I would probably be pushing there if she wasn't cleared
PoE reads are not something scummy, but she claimed that she would be on Mastina if mastina wasn't confirmed. This makes it look like she don't only do PoE reads. She probably thought PoE scumreads on easy players is not enough to get towncred, and also made a point like "I also scumread mastina but yeah, she is actually mason so oof rip my only scumread". She only "?"ing wisdom is also weird, like what did others do more than wisdom to get a more confident townread?
She softed that she will have something like a night action on kokichi now dropped him to null? This does not make sense.
In post 1311, Momrangal wrote:Still not gonna really explain koki right now but I believed in the Masonizer claim and I do believe there could be more than one mason group this game
This also seems weird... But explaining it could be anti town for now so eh. That's something for tommorrow though
In post 1332, Momrangal wrote:Wisdom and LLD are both pretty weak town for me. I don't think wisdoms play style change is alignment indicative and I'm not too keen on mastinas expectation of you mean a whole lot.
I do agree though, the way you don't question the similarity of yours and mastinas role being sus is kinda weird especially after cheeky claimed and I think some time down the road a full mass claim will be necessary but the way you are going in and out with how you're reading mastina seems somewhat organic but I think I recall your ability to do that as scum is solid
I don't really understand the second part but I think she says Wisdom not questioning the similarity between his and Mastina's role is weird? I don't think not questioning is weird since you would need to out your role. I'm not sure if I understand fully though.
Let's look at this PoE list. Isn't it weird? She bringed kokichi to poe scum and...
She did not put Wisdom to her PoE scum part. This does not make sense because:
We are in a 13 player game so there are most likely 3 scum in this game. If you are
really
doing PoE reads, should not Wisdom be in the "PoE scum" section? But instead she put me and kokichi (who are scummy normally) to PoE scum and not Wisdom. Her PoE reads are really opportunistic and she made a scumslip by not putting wisdom to the poe scumreads. This lowkey suggests me that wisdom and mom might be scumteam.
I already voted her so... I'm sleeping
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:21 am
by Kokichi Oma
Good point on that last part red
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:39 am
by Wisdom
the last part is the only thing I agree with, the rest of this "case" is awful
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:41 am
by Wisdom
as in, I agree I should be in PoE scum if I'm null to her
PoE literally means "those I'm not townreading"