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In post 2295, northsidegal wrote:

In post 2290, northsidegal wrote:

In post 2289, Kokichi Oma wrote:NSG, I think you're town so hopefully you've unvoted by the time I've caught up.

ironic.

Kokichi, you keep saying that voting group 3 is a scumclaim - in what way? explain it to me, please.

hey kokichi i'm p-editing you with this please respond to it before you do the rest of your catchup

You realize that 2 HAVE to be in it. Meaning unless you think all 3 scum are in group 3 then it's a bad vote. If you think there is 2 scum in group 3, then imo you should be trying to lynch in the group you think scum is in (which you think scum is also in group 2)

Because if wisdom is scum (which im sure he is) then you lynching wrong in group 3 loses the game even if you were right about 1 scum being in group 3.

i guess you'll see my logic later on in the catch-up (or have you already passed it?)

i think eddie / muffin are mechanically confirmed to not be partners

given that and my wisdom townread, i can take it that there at least 2 scum in group 3.

i'm aware that lynching wrong in group 3 loses the game. i am also very, very aware that lynching wrong in group 1 would lose the game.

i am fairly confident in wisdom being town. again, i fail to see what he's doing right now as scum, except either bluffing (very very unlikely) or deliberately anti-spewing his partners so that they can try to win tomorrow / later (still unlikely and doesn't make much sense for why scum would choose me to partner with him for him to do this)

I've already explained he stopped us from lynching confirmed scum in group 2. I don't agree with your townread on him, as wisdom is just naturally like that. I think that's NAI

Anyway, there is 3 votes on group 1. meaning scum on wagon (wisdom) or in group (wisdom) since maf haven't blitzed yet.

In post 2305, Kokichi Oma wrote:Anyway, there is 3 votes on group 1. meaning scum on wagon (wisdom) or in group (wisdom) since maf haven't blitzed yet.

faulty assumption given that not everyone has checked in, and not everyone has been here at the same time

I guess that's true, I guess it's just me being bias

In post 2304, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've already explained he stopped us from lynching confirmed scum in group 2. I don't agree with your townread on him, as wisdom is just naturally like that. I think that's NAI

anti-town things don't necessarily come from scum. you need reasoning depeer than that.

what do you mean "wisdom is just naturally like that"? what i was describing as for my townread on him were in this game that he's taken. how can he "naturally be like that"?

In post 2292, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 2151, Wisdom wrote:Imagine I died overnight or got lynched yesterday

You would now be citing that I was townreading Kokichi and nsg

We dont even know if they would currently still have those reads

That's funny considering that if it wasn't for you we would have at least one scum dead right now.

Now this is a Kokichi post I can get behind!

(I hope you know I'm saying this/these posts lightheartedly Wisdom)

hes just naturally abrasive. I assumed that's what you meant earlier.

In post 2296, northsidegal wrote:muffinman, you're being kind of concise. what are you thinking right now?

i don't think concise is the word

i was more going to tell him to stop asking questions (or continue while also doing the following) and give some SHTANCES

In post 2299, zMuffinMan wrote:

In post 2286, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 2284, zMuffinMan wrote:eddie, do you think all 3 scum are in G3? or are you just being extra wary of me?

much more the latter. tiny bit the former.

if it helps, i'm town

i probably wouldn't lie about this

you wouldn't lie about it about 75% of the time, right?

i wouldn't lie about it ever

i don't believe in win cons

Kokichi - just imagine it from my perspective from a moment, going off of what i've been saying: group 1 results in a town loss. group 3 basically needs to be the lynch (given group 2 seems unviable as a compromise and also potentially just has 2 town).

If you're town in group 3, we're going to need your vote to lynch there given what wisdom's doing here.

I just want to put that into perspective as for how / why i'm trying to convince people on this. I'm not sure you're the town in group 3, but if you are we need to talk.

In post 2303, northsidegal wrote:i'm aware that lynching wrong in group 3 loses the game. i am also very, very aware that lynching wrong in group 1 would lose the game.

i am fairly confident in wisdom being town. again, i fail to see what he's doing right now as scum, except either bluffing (very very unlikely) or deliberately anti-spewing his partners so that they can try to win tomorrow / later (still unlikely and doesn't make much sense for why scum would choose me to partner with him for him to do this)

the problem with the latter is that his plan literally ends in him flipping today so the spew is pretty frickin worthless...

(ergo wisdom's town)

Like, if you're the town in group 3 then the steps that we need to take in order to have any chance of winning this is to
1. Solidify a read on me
2. Solidify your wisdom read
3. Agree that the lack of a quickhammer most probably means that there's maximum 1 scum in eddie/muffin

In post 2302, northsidegal wrote:i guess you'll see my logic later on in the catch-up (or have you already passed it?)

i think eddie / muffin are mechanically confirmed to not be partners

given that and my wisdom townread, i can take it that there

are

at least 2 scum in group 3.

from your pov, if wisdom is town, kokichi-me and kokichi-eddie are also out of the equation mechanically given the recent string of posts

gonna read on phone soon. brb

In post 2313, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't believe in win cons

this explains so much about ms's playerbase (ᴗ ͜ʖ ᴗ)

In post 2315, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 2303, northsidegal wrote:i'm aware that lynching wrong in group 3 loses the game. i am also very, very aware that lynching wrong in group 1 would lose the game.

i am fairly confident in wisdom being town. again, i fail to see what he's doing right now as scum, except either bluffing (very very unlikely) or deliberately anti-spewing his partners so that they can try to win tomorrow / later (still unlikely and doesn't make much sense for why scum would choose me to partner with him for him to do this)

the problem with the latter is that his plan literally ends in him flipping today so the spew is pretty frickin worthless...

(ergo wisdom's town)

exactly

(honestly thought i also mentioned that there because i remember thinking that but yeah)

In post 2317, zMuffinMan wrote:

In post 2302, northsidegal wrote:i guess you'll see my logic later on in the catch-up (or have you already passed it?)

i think eddie / muffin are mechanically confirmed to not be partners

given that and my wisdom townread, i can take it that there

are

at least 2 scum in group 3.

from your pov, if wisdom is town, kokichi-me and kokichi-eddie are also out of the equation mechanically given the recent string of posts

gonna read on phone soon. brb

hadn't realized that

not sure how much of a difference it makes, though?

it means that if kokichi is scum then it would be the case that there are 3 scum partnered in group 3, no?

not sure if that's relevant or not

In post 2321, northsidegal wrote:it means that if kokichi is scum then it would be the case that there are 3 scum partnered in group 3, no?

still

not sure if that's relevant or not

from town!you's point of view, ya

Anyways

In post 2311, Eddie Cane wrote:

In post 2296, northsidegal wrote:muffinman, you're being kind of concise. what are you thinking right now?

i don't think concise is the word

i was more going to tell him to stop asking questions (or continue while also doing the following) and give some SHTANCES

why?