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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:44 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2292, DVa wrote:VOTE: Maria

starting to care less about which of my bottom 3 pairings we do rn

I think you should trust my read of her

I also doubt that our pair makes it to the very end anyways

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:49 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 2300, Dunnstral wrote:I think you should trust my read of her
Last time i trusted your read on her she was scum that survived with a (Fake) guilty on her.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:54 pm
by Sakura Hana
And let's not forget fallout where you said she was town while she was scum.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:54 pm
by Sakura Hana
So excuse me if i dont trust your read on her.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:54 pm
by Dunnstral
Sakura just be quiet, you're really going to keep pointing to one game I read Maria wrong and act like that means I should never be trusted when rc has read me wrong a handful of times and you're not going to say anything

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:56 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 2304, Dunnstral wrote:you're really going to keep pointing to one game I read Maria wrong
TWO games

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:56 pm
by Firebringer
guys i think ur all forgeting i have a secretz weapon

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:56 pm
by Sakura Hana
I mean, you're both a pair so regardless of RC read on you it still gets MariaR dead.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:56 pm
by DVa
In post 2294, Firebringer wrote:u will never know my secretz weapon now dva.
NOOOOOO!!!!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:57 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2308, DVa wrote:
In post 2294, Firebringer wrote:u will never know my secretz weapon now dva.
NOOOOOO!!!!!!
adorable <3

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:58 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2305, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2304, Dunnstral wrote:you're really going to keep pointing to one game I read Maria wrong
TWO games
That's cute

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:59 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2308, DVa wrote:
In post 2294, Firebringer wrote:u will never know my secretz weapon now dva.
NOOOOOO!!!!!!
I know you don't have a big reason to scumread Maria :/ can you not compromise on my pair?

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:00 pm
by RadiantCowbells
tbh the biggest reason I want your pair dead is that i sincerely doubt that LLD's "the four of us" post only involves town and her and i think sircakez has the highest town equity of the group
i think maria could be the scum instead of you possibly but killing you two and getting townflips basically confscums cakez and even that i think is unlikely, i think we're getting at least one scum killing you/maria and i'm not rly that sure of who it is

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:01 pm
by RadiantCowbells
also dunn you can't read maria. that's an objective fact. she would agree with me on that. so don't say that you can. at least maria's ability to read you has some ability to sway me in a different situation

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:03 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2306, Firebringer wrote:guys i think ur all forgeting i have a secretz weapon

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:06 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 710, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 705, RadiantCowbells wrote:dunn is in my shortlist of DVa partners rn and you don't like my other contenders

maria/cakes is fine as a pairing to me but moreso because i'm not especially sure either are town

think sircakez got a lot of really easy townreads

notably i do think maria is town but i think it will be impossible to convince town to put her in a top 4 pairing
I'll make them see the light. I'm not wavering on Maria town, she's 100% lock for game I've seen this done this it's in the fucking bag.

Trust me here, if you want a good partner for Dva, I think Kokichi looks fucking baller.

Something like...

LLD/Dunn
Maria/Cakez
Dva/Kokichi

and then go...

Karmeleon/Moment
Short/Chibi
Gamma/Fire
Brian/Celestia

Leave out Mala.
In post 288, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.

I also think Dunnstral<->LLD is a good pairing.

Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting

and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.

I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.
these both make me extremely uncomfortable

i doubt lld would bother to micromanage tvt pairings and i think that LLD's fetish for you is strongly indicative of either you or maria being scum (either she wants to break up you/maria because maria's scared of pairing with you or she wants to get with you to prevent herself being walked out on.)

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:07 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2314, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2306, Firebringer wrote:guys i think ur all forgeting i have a secretz weapon

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:07 pm
by RadiantCowbells
like she clearly planned around these pairings. why these pairings in particular? if you and maria are town and cakez is the scum what is the endgame here? not wanting dunn/maria to turn on each other, maaaybe? but even then it only makes sense if cakez is scum so flipping two town here at worst gives us obvscum in sircakez.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:09 pm
by DVa
In post 2311, Dunnstral wrote:I know you don't have a big reason to scumread Maria :/ can you not compromise on my pair?
I don't, but I'll also never be able to townread her. I know that's my fault for being terrible at reading her. I actually pestered Fakegod like... 5 times? for spoilers in BoR, just because I wanted to know what Maria was. And he held out on me 0.o

I had no idea what she was, and I have no idea how I was supposed to know after I looked over her iso after her flip

She's a PoE lynch who I have some reasons to think could plausibly be scum. I'd prefer Cakez but I'm not deadset on him. If compromising on Maria means moving the game forward, yeah ok whatever.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:10 pm
by Firebringer
i don't think its a compromise to lynch maria here.
although i will also admit i am never 100% certain of her towniness but i think lynching dunn/maria is wrong move.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:11 pm
by RadiantCowbells
and that's also why I was thinking about the odds of LLD anticipating me catching her super quickly, because if she was playing to win the game with her alive (which she by everything I can tell seems to have) then I'm definitely right on my read on this but if she expected me to murder her than she'd have set something up in terms of the pairings to try to mislead but I have seen no evidence that she expected me to derptunnel her so.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:12 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2320, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have seen no evidence that she expected me to derptunnel her so.
You killed/tried to get her killed day 1 in the last 2 dance games you were a part of, for the record

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:12 pm
by Dunnstral
Unless I'm misremembering and it was lld who suicided on you, which I might be, to be fair

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:13 pm
by Firebringer
lld suicided on him once. i don't remember the other.
also i scumread lld too

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:14 pm
by Firebringer
no wait i think rc suicided on lld?