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In post 2291, Vedith wrote:This also suggests strongly to me that Shas is either flipping town or Insomnia isn't scum with Sash.

It could be both, since the first part is true.

In post 2295, insomnia wrote:Like what

Let's say you and DDL are both town. DDL gets NKd of course that will put you under suspicion and could ultimately lead to a Town!insomnia mislynch.

I think you could flip red or green, I'm not sure. What I am sure about is your current play is not for town but for yourself and your own ego. Maybe DDL is scum and you can gloat around with an "I told you so" but what good is that for town at this moment.

I would assume most players in this game are currently not respecting you and your reads for the whole fake emergency thing. since that event you haven't even tried to get our respect/trust back and instead have just doubled down on your own reads. Even if I want to take your reads seriously and give them thought it's hard for me to stay objective.

I'm not saying you have to have the same reads as me or anyone else but it feels like you won't budge and that type of mentality can become a major liability in lylo.

In post 2300, Sashaddin wrote:

In post 2291, Vedith wrote:This also suggests strongly to me that Shas is either flipping town or Insomnia isn't scum with Sash.

It could be both, since the first part is true.

I'm not ruling Insomnia out as scum on a town flip with you.

In post 2301, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 2295, insomnia wrote:Like what

Let's say you and DDL are both town. DDL gets NKd of course that will put you under suspicion and could ultimately lead to a Town!insomnia mislynch.

I think you could flip red or green, I'm not sure. What I am sure about is your current play is not for town but for yourself and your own ego. Maybe DDL is scum and you can gloat around with an "I told you so" but what good is that for town at this moment.

I would assume most players in this game are currently not respecting you and your reads for the whole fake emergency thing. since that event you haven't even tried to get our respect/trust back and instead have just doubled down on your own reads. Even if I want to take your reads seriously and give them thought it's hard for me to stay objective.

I'm not saying you have to have the same reads as me or anyone else but it feels like you won't budge and that type of mentality can become a major liability in lylo.

If I were scum, why the fuck would I kill someone that I’ve been trying to set up a lynch on for this whole game?????

If scum nk DDL, then that is absolutely a benefit because my reads will change and I’ll get a grip in the current game state

How do you even think people can shade me for pushing ddl lmao

What do you mean “what good is that for the town” hello???? I’m catching scum?????

No, the fake thing is only affecting roster’s read. It shouldn’t affect anyone because if people wouldn’t get their knees so weak when a ban is mentioned, they would notice that my in the ban thread it specifically said it was made to affect Gameshow mafia, and not this lobby.

Another fat no to people not respecting my reads because of the fake emergency thing. People never reapect my reads for some reason, maybe it is because of my cockiness behind it, my reads are good, people just underestimate me and choose not to follow me on anything, unless the town leader shares the same thoughts

I’ve never been followed by town to kill scum because people are selfish as well. Don’t talk to me that you won’t vote with me because od the fake emergency thing. You should realize that it’s because an ounce of you wants sasg to flip scum as well, otherwise you’d be voting with me. Nobody’s made a case on sasha, you all sheeping people should start thinking on your own.

That’s what I do. Instead of denying my reads because RC, a player with a lot of influence, calls them trash, it doesn’t mean that they are. Try to get behind my thougt process, think for yourselves if DDL has a chance of flipping scum. Maybe the way I present my cases and the confidence behind them makes you doubt yourselves. Fine.

Point out one town thing DDL has done all this game and I’ll reconsider my vote. But for now, I won’t be a sheep and kill sash who is town. I’ve been suaded many many times before and this game’s where I put an end to it. I’d rather mislynch myself than to be lead by scum.

DDL could be scum. You might be right. And it's not your cockiness thst irks people. It's your unwillingness to bend or be a team player. If you are town you shouldn't be viewing this as a single player game and regardless if we lynch scum the game isn't over after today.

We know you SR ddl., hell if the ddl wagon or anyone else is L-1 and the deadline is close I would fully consider hammering if needed. I still adhere thst especially on D1 a mislynch is better than a no lynch.
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And to change the subject. Let's say we get a scum ddl flip. Who do you think would likely be his partners?

Also, to answer your question about what h DDL has done this game that is a solid town tell, you're right. There is nothing thst screams town but also imo there is nothing that screams scum either.

In post 2305, BrightEyedFish wrote:DDL could be scum. You might be right. And it's not your cockiness thst irks people. It's your unwillingness to bend or be a team player. If you are town you shouldn't be viewing this as a single player game and regardless if we lynch scum the game isn't over after today.

We know you SR ddl., hell if the ddl wagon or anyone else is L-1 and the deadline is close I would fully consider hammering if needed. I still adhere thst especially on D1 a mislynch is better than a no lynch.
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And to change the subject. Let's say we get a scum ddl flip. Who do you think would likely be his partners?

RC who has also repped out in one of my games and he was scum

Don’t read his rep out as AI

It helps with getting town reads, probably everyone on this wagon rn can be cleared as town if they don’t leave the wagon because it’s at L-2

That’s getting creature out of tunnel mode on shidaji and he will town read me for it

That’s making vedith town read me

That’s making the whole lobby town read me and work with me

Do you think a sash and ddl could both be scum?

No, DDL put sash at L-1 because I’m pressuring him

If DDL flips scum you guys don’t have to sort me at all

In post 2310, insomnia wrote:No, DDL put sash at L-1 because I’m pressuring him

By my count DDL put sash at L-2.

In post 2311, insomnia wrote:If DDL flips scum you guys don’t have to sort me at all

In no way would a DDL scum flip clear you.

Then, with all due respect, you don’t know how to play this game

In post 2314, insomnia wrote:Then, with all due respect, you don’t know how to play this game

Please, explain it to me.

If a DDL scumflip doesn’t make me town in your eyes, might as well go on random.org to get your scum reads

I’ve been pushing ddl for half this game, if it was a bus, I would’ve advocated a lynch on the counter wagon / voted it myself.

I am voting DDL and I think that's the way to go but I'm about ready to compromise on BEF :@ vote DDL!

looks like me vs sash, and im not voting me dude

In post 2316, insomnia wrote:If a DDL scumflip doesn’t make me town in your eyes, might as well go on random.org to get your scum reads

I’ve been pushing ddl for half this game, if it was a bus, I would’ve advocated a lynch on the counter wagon / voted it myself.

I really hate to keep bringing this up but... for someone who would fake an emergency for a scum gambit, bussing a scum partner would definitely be in their wheelhouse.

In post 2309, BrightEyedFish wrote:Do you think a sash and ddl could both be scum?

do u?

In post 2320, Shiidaji wrote:

In post 2309, BrightEyedFish wrote:Do you think a sash and ddl could both be scum?

do u?

I do.

In post 2178, Pretentious wrote:What are the few cases you would self admittedly push your town reads in?

Just noticed this.
I'd push a townread to an L-2 or an L-1 when I want to provoke a thing to get hints at a read: who jumps out of the wagon quickly, who protests about me voting or getting to L-1 in general... Not a lot of cases, more of a last ditch effort. I don't do this systematically,

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