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Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:31 pm
by Titus
I had a horrible day IRL. My judgment is impaired. Drunk Titus will show soon.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:34 pm
by Fumuki
Drunk playing is the best anyway.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:35 pm
by Titus
In post 2301, Fumuki wrote:Drunk playing is the best anyway.
I like you. I haven't played drunk in over a year I think.

So, why is worm a consensus scum read anyway?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:38 pm
by Fumuki
I find worrying that he hasn't really shown much thought process in his reads.

He has reads, but they are kind of given without much thought behind it, and the same also is shown in his pushes.

I've seen town!Dr.Worm do better, and I find his interest in the early doctor claims/Baezu rolefishy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:40 pm
by Titus
In post 2303, Fumuki wrote:I find worrying that he hasn't really shown much thought process in his reads.

He has reads, but they are kind of given without much thought behind it, and the same also is shown in his pushes.

I've seen town!Dr.Worm do better, and I find his interest in the early doctor claims/Baezu rolefishy.
The first part is meh. Burden of proficiency. Everyone has good or bad games.

I'm very interested in the role fish argument though.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:46 pm
by Fumuki
In post 400, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 349, Baezu wrote:I need to catch up on this game...please gimme a bit
DO YOU BELEIVE WIZZERD"S CLAIM??
^ Baezu had early said that "one of the two claims is probably false", an obvious crumb.

Spoiler:
In post 636, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 513, TheWizard wrote:First of all, I don't give two shits about RC's reputation. I know enough about him from direct interaction, I don't need to rely on hearsay.

Since RC *is* good at orchestrating mislynches, I'll go ahead and claim. I am actually one of the doctors.
My role PM didn't say anything about this bullshit mechanic where I can't be healed
, which is why I suggested to Pretentious that we heal each other. I knew that he was creating wifom, but figured that if he was lying, he'd be CCed and then retract. Once he explained the mechanic and I realized how badly I'd screwed up, I tried to maximize wifom by implying that I was a VT fakeclaiming, but not discussing the matter in any detail. RC has repeatedly tried to get me to explain my actions and therefore let him and his scumbuddies know whether or not they should kill me; as much as I hate to give in it's necessary at this point.

As far as Shoshin goes, the arguments between him and RC seems contrived, so it's likely a scum v scum interaction. All things being equal, I'd be fine lynching Shoshin today and RC tomorrow. However, I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, and (if we lynch Shoshin today) RC will use her scumflip and his conflicts with her to try to talk himself out of getting lynched. It's likely that the town would get suckered in, and RC would then carry scum to endgame without any real opposition.

Given this, I want to see RC die before I do, which means today. Shoshin is barely trying so I trust the town to lynch him in my absence.
In post 551, TheWizard wrote:Also,
according to the mafia role card in the OP
, they only have night chat, and therefore haven't communicated yet. RC is intentionally townslipping by pretending not to know this.

^He is basically paying too much attention in Wizard claim compared to the rest of the game.
In post 638, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 401, Buki wrote:
In post 400, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 349, Baezu wrote:I need to catch up on this game...please gimme a bit
DO YOU BELEIVE WIZZERD"S CLAIM??
that answer is already in their ISO
BUKU PLAESE don"t ANSWER questions for OTHERS!!
In post 639, Dr Worm wrote:DR WORM is not DUMB.. I know BEZUES ISO!!
^ It feels like he was asking Baezu about it to try to see if she would crumb/slip even more.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:00 pm
by Titus
Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:02 pm
by Fumuki
In post 2306, Titus wrote:Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?
What...do you mean by that?

That his scumbuddies would say for him to stop it?

I think his partners are likely GiF/Egix, and GiF replaced in Pretentious slot that wasn't very active.

Also, Pretentious claimed doctor early and that might have been to try to get reactions from the real doctors.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:41 pm
by Titus
In post 2307, Fumuki wrote:
In post 2306, Titus wrote:Wouldn't his scummates say so in daychat?
What...do you mean by that?

That his scumbuddies would say for him to stop it?

I think his partners are likely GiF/Egix, and GiF replaced in Pretentious slot that wasn't very active.

Also, Pretentious claimed doctor early and that might have been to try to get reactions from the real doctors.
Well I could see GiF as scum trying to bait things out but that's not my read on him.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:42 pm
by Fumuki
GiF replaced Pretentious in the mid of Day 2.

Pretentious was trying to bait it, not GiF in my opinion.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:45 pm
by Titus
In post 2309, Fumuki wrote:GiF replaced Pretentious in the mid of Day 2.

Pretentious was trying to bait it, not GiF in my opinion.
Yup. I saw something else.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:47 pm
by GuyInFreezer
PSA Eyes is still town

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:39 pm
by Fumuki
In post 2311, GuyInFreezer wrote:PSA Eyes is still town
I guess?

Since aside from a Dr.Worm town flip I'm treating this game as mostly solved, I'm going to be fully reading Fire on The Mountain because that's some really spicy reading right there and it seems like it even got a nom to a scummie.

If anyone want to talk about it, I would be up to. Also we had both RC/Shoshin playing there so it's even relevant meta-wise.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:02 pm
by Fumuki
To be honest I didn't want to try to direct the cop, but if we don't do it we:

1. Need to eventually out the cop
2. If he dies we have no solid results

then...mechanically speaking, it's in our best interest to direct cop, and as a side thought, probably direct doctor as well.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:07 pm
by Fumuki
Directing doctor ensures that 1 or 2 towniest players doesn't die and forces scum to do some sub-optimal nightkill, opposed to let doctor do their own thing and have a small chance of they sucesfully stopping the nightkill (what would lead us to a no lynch day later anyway since the only change would be we reaching MyLo instead of LyLo).

Not worth letting cop and doctor do their own thing I think.

Ethically correct but not mechanically?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:10 pm
by Fumuki
To be honest reading Fire on Mountain I'm more shy around taking RC slot out of the PoE.

He really do have this weird habit of changing his lynch right when it's about to be lynched.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:38 pm
by Fumuki
Oh right, I know who Karmeleon main is probably.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:47 pm
by Titus
Guys I am really running out of time. Once Saturday comes, I am totally done. Friday busy.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:21 pm
by Eyes without a face
In post 2171, Fumuki wrote:This game had lots of replacements and inactivity.
Who you calling inactive?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:31 pm
by Fumuki
VOTE: Dr.Worm

The wagon is basically:

Dr.Worm - Eyes, NSG, GiF, Fumuki

It takes 6 to lynch, in that case Dr.Worm is in L-2.

Let's get the ball rolling because I don't think NSG is going to show up.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:32 pm
by Fumuki
and I wouldn't like for someone to replace NSG and unvote Worm.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:34 pm
by brassherald
VOTE: Dr Worm

Sure. Egix wagon doesn't seem to be happening.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:34 pm
by brassherald
L- pizzeria uno

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:05 am
by Titus
I think this is the wrong wagon but I will hammer before my evening commitments if it is still L minus 1 as we are not no lynching.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:46 am
by Fumuki
I think that if Dr.Worm flips red, Titus gain some town credit with her posting today.