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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:51 pm
by Farkran
In post 2197, Bitmap wrote:I think the actual vig shot her for the soft claim counter.
Makes... some sense, but i don't think so.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:53 pm
by Farkran
In post 2200, Severa wrote:I think that exact 1/2 of Alchemist/Kerset is scum

But not both
I agree with this, will provide a readlist after catchup. I don't think its kerset though.

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:58 pm
by Farkran
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Hi I was stunned and recieved no action on Kerset.
How do you know you were stunned?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:00 am
by Farkran
In post 2229, RadiantCowbells wrote:My quick pick for main faction scum is V&M + Kerset with serial killer somewhere in the slots that I'm clearing based on associatives
This is most likely wrong, V&M is town, kerset probably town too but i need to verify something first

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:03 am
by Farkran
In post 2272, Bitmap wrote:Also,

Evenstar is a great SK kill.

Evenstar is a shit tier mafia kill.
Yes this

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:05 am
by Farkran
In post 2286, Bitmap wrote:Whoever poisoned Farkran is probably town.
No, i have reasons to think this is not the case. Still need to verify something...

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:07 am
by Farkran
In post 2289, Kerset wrote:So fark said that he needs charges and here he seems to used it on blast. I want explanation.
Poison is not the only status ailment i've been inflicted today.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:14 am
by Farkran
Ok, all caught up now. Sorry for the spam, posting my overnight readlist now (this was not including NKA and new info about today's claims, i will fix it accordingly):

Spoiler: readlist
TOWN

Severa
Bitmap
V&M

These guys are never scum in this game. Or at least not part of the scumteam.

suji
TL

These are weaker reads, will never lynch today though.


NULL

Kerset - we may want to sort this before alchemist, but i'm not sure this is scum. It's kerset. Not joining pops wagon because he smells the wagon is bad fits with town!him.

Evenstar - her progression on pops is not really good. She has a lot of iioa, off meta jumpiness (although improved lately) + i don't think town!evenstar buys scum!pops over scum!severa or scum!farkran. The fakehammer attempt was also poorly executed. She could be bussing.


Salamence - still probably dumb!town, but his confidence is scummingly disarming. If he reaches lylo it's a scum win.


Chemist - vote was useless as he had only 2 and pops was L-3. Could be scum.



SCUM

Alchemist - progression on pops is shit-level. Scumreads pops and kerset + townleans me, yet refuses to join pops wagon for bs reasons even when she was my counterwagon. The only thing that makes me doubt my read on him is that if someone wanted to pocket me, it should have been pops, not alchemist. Aside from that, i think this is a bad execution of bussing.

Gamma - despite being on the bottom of my readlist, it's not a super-strong read. My point wrt gamma is that i don't think the scum team was fully stacked on pops. Someone must have been off, and it makes sense being on the counterwagon (me). + pops' progression on gamma is bad.

POPS

Reviewing his iso i think she has been trying to join opportunistic wagons as a primary strategy. I couldn't see her pushing me if this was not the case. This makes me think she voted kerset because he was consensus scumreaded rather than distancing. Interactions with evenstar are on the bad side, having her as perpetually null-nullscum.

I think it mostly boils down to whether she was expecting to flip or not. I think she thought she had significant chances to, given that Severa scumreaded her. This probably means she focused on distancing more than protecting her scummates, while producing real pushes only on opportunistic wagons. I have already said how i can see pops distancing from Evenstar, but Alchemist is also a good candidate. Not sure about Chemist.


Bolded/italics need to be amended and confirmed, it's likely that i know something about those guys.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:15 am
by Farkran
In post 2302, Farkran wrote:
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Hi I was stunned and recieved no action on Kerset.
How do you know you were stunned?
Please answer this asap and be detailed about it

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:31 am
by Venus and Mars
Rc stop being wrong about me 2 magical girl games in row.

Thanks and love ya.

Shiro is officially back btw and fir whoever cares my cat has fully recovered.


@Bit

I disagree, if scum thought she was vig and after losing 1 member, it isn't unlikely they would kill her to be safe. And honestly I can only see 1 girl capable of being 3p sk and I seriously doubt someone went out of their way to use the cross banner, and then mod went, yea I will make that sk.

~Venus

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 am
by Salamence20
Farkran 2 Words:

WALL

POSTS.

God our hydra is going to have 500 posts D1. So much fun.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:05 am
by Farkran
In post 2310, Salamence20 wrote:Farkran 2 Words:

WALL

POSTS.

God our hydra is going to have 500 posts D1. So much fun.
More than half of those are probably us arguing about our own reads

Btw answer my question about the stun plz

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:17 am
by Salamence20
In post 2290, Kerset wrote:
In post 2281, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 2058, Kerset wrote:Wagon looks bad.
Yeah we are going to need more details now.
What details?
:roll:

VOTE: Kerset
In post 2292, Kerset wrote:I don't really believe that sala was rbed last night. The way he asked for roles yesterday and lack of today's result seems to me that he lied.
Theres no reason for me to lie. I also wasn't fishing for roles.
In post 2299, Farkran wrote:
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Also: Hi my name is Salamence20 and I suck at mafia, RC is really good at mafia, Im a fool for trying to dissuade him. I am shit, in fact lower than shit. I deserve to be burried in shit thats how bad I am at mafia.
Good morning and you're welcome :D
Youre not conftown.
In post 2302, Farkran wrote:
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Hi I was stunned and recieved no action on Kerset.
How do you know you were stunned?
Smells like BAIT. I believe Youre trying to imply me for one of two things so I'm not answering that question. I was roleblocked and recieved no result.
In post 2306, Farkran wrote:
In post 2289, Kerset wrote:So fark said that he needs charges and here he seems to used it on blast. I want explanation.
Poison is not the only status ailment i've been inflicted today.
wtf is this?
Farkran wrote:TOWN
Severa
Bitmap
V&M
(I would like a reason for the hard townread here)


These guys are never scum in this game. Or at least not part of the scumteam.

suji
(And maybe this?)

TL

These are weaker reads, will never lynch today though.
Farkran wrote:confidence
I'm not sure how I'm being "Too Confident?"
Farkran wrote:Alchemist - progression on pops is shit-level. Scumreads pops and kerset + townleans me, yet refuses to join pops wagon for bs reasons even when she was my counterwagon. The only thing that makes me doubt my read on him is that if someone wanted to pocket me, it should have been pops, not alchemist. Aside from that, i think this is a bad execution of bussing.
But why hammer scum as scum when it wasn't necessary?
In post 2308, Farkran wrote:
In post 2302, Farkran wrote:
In post 2217, Salamence20 wrote:Hi I was stunned and recieved no action on Kerset.
How do you know you were stunned?
Please answer this asap and be detailed about it
Just come out and say whatever you are trying to imply.
In post 2309, Venus and Mars wrote:
Shiro is officially back btw and fir whoever cares my cat has fully recovered.

~Venus
*Clap*

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Farkran you recieved a status aliment, you know exactly what happened to me last night.

Question is:
Did you do it?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:21 am
by Farkran
You're going to answer that question about stun right now. You specifically said you were STUNNED, not roleblocked.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:32 am
by Salamence20
STUNNED MEANS I WAS UNABLE TO PERFORM ANY ACTION OR MEMORIA. ITS A STATUS AILMENT I GOT LAST NIGHT

AKA ITS ESSENTIALLY A ROLEBLOCKER. I WASNT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING LAST NIGHT

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:32 am
by Salamence20
And they call me demse

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:33 am
by Farkran
VOTE: salamence20

You were not stunned last night.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:35 am
by Salamence20
Are you saying you were stunned last night?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:36 am
by Farkran
In post 2317, Salamence20 wrote:Are you saying you were stunned last night?
No. I am saying you were not.

Or do you think the mod is wrong? Serious question, please answer thoughtfully

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:45 am
by Salamence20
No? Wtf?

I didnt recieve a result from TK, I just got a message saying I was stunned, informing me my action didnt go through.

Given you are saying “Poison is not the only ailment I recieved,” I assume you got a message similar to mine, no? Either you are the “roleblocker” or you are assuming something that is incorrect. Spill it

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:50 am
by Farkran
Yes, i received a message similar to yours. If your PM were about STUN, you would that the Stunned ailment does NOT work like you described it does, and if you were sincere you would immediately point out a possible mod error.

I have proof that you are lying.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:50 am
by Farkran
you would know*

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
Alright, time to start going through all the garbage you losers worked up
In post 834, popsofctown wrote:
… you're BoPing Kerset? That wouldn't really be the angle that appeals to me.

Kerset's posted a lot more about what ker reads are rather than why they are.

Gamewide I think people are doing lists too much and I think discussing top 3's and why you feel that way is more relevant but I probably shouldn't try to browbeat people into following my style preferences
This seems like something to go back to and think about

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:59 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 858, Bitmap wrote:I don't think pops is town. Literally ez push after ez push and I still think TL is town.
I agree TL prolly town following pops’ weird vote post

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:03 am
by Salamence20
In post 2320, Farkran wrote:Yes, i received a message similar to yours. If your PM were about STUN, you would that the Stunned ailment does NOT work like you described it does, and if you were sincere you would immediately point out a possible mod error.

I have proof that you are lying.
Unless you are the STUNNER you are full of shit.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I received the aliment. It says you were unable to perform any action. So I think with that in mind I think its safe to assume I recieved NO RESULT.

Like how am I supposed to know what your PM says in relation to me, unless you stunned me, you dont know anything about the ailment.