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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm
by UnaBombaH
I guess my initial gameplan should make way more sense with this information out in the open now too.
I was fine being "universally" townread in the early game, and keeping up an environment where I might've been a low-information/townread kill for scum in the first 2 nights.
I was also doing my best not to draw in potential investigations after D2 - hence my comment towards Hoopla possibly using their action towards me.
(in the off-chance they were town, they'd waste their shot and no one - me included - would believe the "no result"-type of response)
One of the reasons why I thought notscience as doc would've made sense, was if the setup had a Vig/SK kind of a thing and/or the scumteam would have something like a strongman.
Obviously seeing all these investigative-flips and no extra-deaths per night made me realize that whenever I was gonna have to fully claim, I would produce some raised eyebrows.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm
by Isis
it's a puppet show with the stipulation that the puppets will be made of paper
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 2298, Not_Mafia wrote:This is the biggest load of shite I've ever read and I follow Trump on twitter
Well, didn't think you'd believe me anyway so..
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm
by Isis
Una u didnt answer me
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm
by UnaBombaH
What part?
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm
by Isis
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:46 pm
by UnaBombaH
Yea, absolutely.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:46 pm
by Not_Mafia
Wtf sort of role is 2-shot Compulsive Commuter
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:48 pm
by Isis
N_M has paper theatre been explained to your satisfaction such that I can claim even though I should prolly slowplay
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:50 pm
by UnaBombaH
Well you tell me.
I was just in a
game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by Isis
@Frederick A Campbell: Who designed the setup?
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by UnaBombaH
I guess we didn't have a protective, so I was supposed to be drawing fire from scum?
I don't fking know.
Guess we'll be more informed once Isis claims.
![:]](./images/smilies/icon_smiling.png "Cheerful Smile")
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 0, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Backup Moderator: Micc
Setup Designer: Fredrick A Campbell
Primary Setup Reviewer: mastina
Secondary Setup Reviewer: northsidegal
Not that hard Isis..
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:52 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2308, Isis wrote:N_M has paper theatre been explained to your satisfaction such that I can claim even though I should prolly slowplay
I must have a masters thesis on the topic, fully sourced with written sources
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by Isis
what about a link to the wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_theater
which includes 5 references
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2309, UnaBombaH wrote:Well you tell me.
I was just in a
game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
Impotent PRs as named townies and double roles are a thing, "lol just commute N1 and N2" is not
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm
by Isis
how much of a troll is FAC?
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm
by Not_Mafia
I will accept it for now, but you will have to unclaim on day 8
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm
by Isis
Ok, that's fair
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm
by UnaBombaH
OK, I'm going back to bed then if it's just you two and this is the conversation we are having..
I'll come back and catchup though. I want to learn more about paper-theatres since I was unable to build that Eeveelution one properly anyway.
Just not in the mood of watching this unfold live.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:57 pm
by UnaBombaH
In post 2315, Not_Mafia wrote: In post 2309, UnaBombaH wrote:Well you tell me.
I was just in a
game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
Impotent PRs as named townies and double roles are a thing, "lol just commute N1 and N2" is not
Well, I'm not sure what is or isn't a thing around here anymore.
I feel like there many mods and setup-designers who absolutely just want to destroy any signs of "meta" within the Normal games.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:00 pm
by Not_Mafia
+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Miltank Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Umbreon: 402-474 (121.4 - 143.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:01 pm
by Isis
In post 24, Isis wrote: In post 18, Hoopla wrote:hello people of the town.
i am well rested; full of coffee, left-over dal, and wild ideas.
the scum don't stand a chance.
VOTE: bob - easy target.
VOTE: bob
I will sheep our
leader.
In post 42, Isis wrote:I'm a bunny now
Bunny
4th class Isis
Galron has deputized me
(this card is heavily played a compared to other cards, so it's more significant than only existing in the namespace of magic cards, although I don't know of any other magic cards that say tracker)
I don't think I should claim my night actions until other players have claimed. If someone else claims tracker or watcher and it's circular where each of us should claim first to verify the other I guess I don't mind going first, but I should wait until the rest of the claims come through to claim what I saw or didn't see I think.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:03 pm
by UnaBombaH
Also, you should realize that the example I gave you is so much more than just "what roles are a thing and what not".
My whole point there was to say that I've seen setups where weird, wonky, borderline unfun-to-play roles are used as a way to break expectations and balance the setups.
My role is the kind I'm not supposed to claim for it to have any function (ie. bait a kill from scum), but obv. as town I'd like to put information out there.
But it's also the kind of role where claiming it AFTER makes no difference!
Scum wouldn't still find a need to kill me, and I'd only give them ammo to use against me.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:06 pm
by UnaBombaH
Like, go check my attitude once we had three investigatives flipped already.
I even made a post talking about roles that seem scummy. Roles that I would never want to claim.
And consider this - if you want to call me scum FOR claiming my role.
I could've planned something way different beforehand. Way in advance.
I was by no means forced to (very softly) crumb or claim this.
It is my truthful role, and I absolutely hated playing something like this.
That's all I have to say about my claim.
