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In post 2299, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 2295, VP Baltar wrote:Voting for the lowest hanging fruit and then lurking is not town play.

I don't even know what you want me to discuss

nothing has happened.

if Bulge wants to make a case for killing someone he should do so.

This is a BS answer. Koba has been generating discussion. Reck has been. I have been.

Point is that if you and UT are town, you're helping scum this game by stalling.

lol

i just re-skimmed the last 5 pages of posts

none of it is relevant to bulge's alignment

my stance remains the same

"be the change" etc

do you think I'm scum?

In post 2298, The Bulge wrote:like, why call him out early like that just for the cred if all he can do now is parrot "I called him scum in our PT on the 9th!" like that has such little credibility esp with the fact that we could technically both be scum

Because bulge is I say it happens in a pt and spews me as town it does

gonna have to run that one by me again my dude

I’m being snarky that saying bc it happened in a place no one else can see means we can’t ever elim me

gotcha lol

at this point i am going to convince UT to move as a unit with me to hit whoever gets within 2 votes of being dead to stop this game from stalling the fuck out any longer

The pool of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of



The Bulge (3) : xRECKONERx, PookyTheMagicalBear, Untrod Tripod
lilith2013 (1) : notscience
notscience (1) : DkKoba

Not Voting: Everyone else

With 8 members of the expedition remaining it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Lilith needs to make her choice

Idk why bulge isn’t voting

huh I definitely thought I was

VOTE: lilith

In post 2308, xRECKONERx wrote:at this point i am going to convince UT to move as a unit with me to hit whoever gets within 2 votes of being dead to stop this game from stalling the fuck out any longer

Is that really the best play? Shouldn't you two be arguing for who is best?

it's kind of weird that notsci is voting me but I can't recall him actually pushing for my elim today? and I feel like I remember thinking similar things about his votes on D1 and D3 when we had elims on town, which makes me think maybe he is trying to stay off the town elims more than he is actually trying to push his scumreads, and that would mean today's wagon is on a town!bulge. That would also fit with koba's theory of TMI, which I still don't totally understand but I believe that they believed what they were saying.

I'm not sure if I'm thinking about this right because my head is killing me

In post 2283, lilith2013 wrote:

In post 2224, The Bulge wrote:I've decided for my mental wellbeing to start posting more frequently and less carefully this game. let's shotgun some mf reads!!!!!!

ut town reck probably also
notty town
pooky town
vp town
koba scum?
lilith scum

Can you explain... any of these?

hi

In post 2312, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 2308, xRECKONERx wrote:at this point i am going to convince UT to move as a unit with me to hit whoever gets within 2 votes of being dead to stop this game from stalling the fuck out any longer

Is that really the best play? Shouldn't you two be arguing for who is best?

i know my apathy levels are at an all time high, UT isn't really active or engaging in any meaningful way, we both sort of just want bulge dead ig and then see what happens??

idk man this is weird. i've never felt negative energy for a game before but i have it right now. bulge was a gut super seekrit read and im shooting from the hip on this one, i still owe a full iso but let's be honest, bulge hasn't really given us anything at all to work w/

i should've listened to my gut and backed off cakez but...yeah
also full disclosure, this is the first time ive ever played two games at once in a loooong time, i was also in Among Us Mafia, which just wrapped up, and it had some overlap in the playerbase, which is fuzzying my reads even further.

The playing two games at once is real for me too! I got way too ambitious during the Christmas week slow down

Re: bulge, I'd be interested on him and notsci talking about their PT and the early read on AGar. Seems like a bold play if they are both scum, or if notsci is scum alone.

*interested in your take, Reck,

my main thing on bulge is there's some early game stuff that just looks weird but i'm *assuming* some of that is bc i don't follow meta or whatever

like, out of nowhere asking pooky if gamma is town. why pooky's read on gamma, specifically?
then he questions gamma on the noraa obvtown read.

In post 660, The Bulge wrote:as for the group of 4 iirc I was feeling a little sketchy about gamma the other day but all his recent posts were pretty townie. A few people called out Noraa's gamma vote but for me it's the timing of it. Looks like she saw the numbers dwindling and was scared of the wagon dissipating and moving elsewhere. pooky seems townie but I don't trust myself to read pooky at all, I'm extremely inconsistent in my accuracy. vpb seems pretty transparently town to me in a way I'm not sure how to briefly summarize

this post feels like a lot of preamble to retroactively justify joining the noraa wagon without looking bad. like honestly it feels like fishing for a reason so he isn't viewed poorly for the jump as opposed to just... voting noraa. bulge had been completely disengaged w/ the game thus far, literally nothing on noraa, and i think if he was town, he probably would've just joined the wagon here

bulge was also the first one to show concern over my "super secret scumread" and then like keeps going on trying to get UT to give hints ab what it is/what he thinks of it...idk why bulge was so obsessed over who i was secretly reading unless he was paranoid. then like after pinging him about it multiple times bulge is just like "oh i wasn't asking you to spill anything". like what? then why were you hammering on it?

just the way bulge is approaching questioning things it feels sorta like agar's "questioning to question not to catch scum or sort people" thing that he was doing. like

In post 1201, The Bulge wrote:

In post 1199, xRECKONERx wrote:

In post 1196, The Bulge wrote:

In post 1187, xRECKONERx wrote:i like that challenge tbqh

are you talking about the contents of the limpool, or the context of cakez's challenge?

The limpoo

gun to your head, how many scum do you think we whiffed day 1?

what does this help solve? how the fuck should i know how many scum we missed on d1? and what does my response do to ?

he mostly ignores agar until this moment:

In post 1276, The Bulge wrote:

In post 1257, AGar wrote:Spent 11.5 hours and so far almost every waking minute staring at 600 acres worth of utility maps today. Going to go for a run to reset my brain/create a divide in the day for my own sanity, then I'll deal with some of the garbage in here, but boy do I have some fucking takes.

were you in prodrange before you made this post?

which gives me extreme pause. i don't kno why agar's buddy would like, call him out for posting outside of prod range or whatevver? it's really weird and i dont know how to view this at all.

In post 1341, The Bulge wrote:I want to do some deeper reading. Agar has always been hard for me to read or even to posture against as scum. but I want to trust notty there. so it's like

lilith
Agar?
starbuck

I don't want to yeet cakez (which is probably a surprise to him )

at least he's consistent ab wanting to yeet lillith? but the whole "idk agar oh gosh i cant read him" is v weird (also like not sure what history agar/bulge even have meta-wise for him to have the authority to make the claim he can "never read him"?)

once i called out bulge as my secret scumread in 1347, he snap votes me back angrily.

so i guess my slam dunk read on bulge is not that i can draw specific scum motivations for his posts, it's that i can't find specific town motivation. i find a lot of "look engaged for the sake of looking engaged" but not much questioning to try to actually like solve the game and find the baddies and that's a problem for me

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@VPB: given gamma flipped green, does this associative tell of yours change at all?

In post 1323, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1322, xRECKONERx wrote:i can't shake the feeling it's gamma

If lillith flips red, it is absolutely gamma.

what were the reasons behind it and how is it affected now post-gamma flip?

This is getting at the heart of what I was seeing then reck. Gamma was shading lillith for weak reasons, which felt like a bus attempt to me if lillith was red. (Obviously was not)

In post 1326, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1325, Gamma Emerald wrote:Which btw, it’s hilarious you suggest that VP when if Agar is town there’s little benefit to unvoting besides towncred

Your reasons for suspecting lillith are flimsy, which is why I was pressing you to explain the change of heart when very little had happened.

And didn't someone already say the optimal scum strategy in this setup is to bus early and cruise on town cred?

Anyhow, I'm just calling it like I see it!

In post 2319, xRECKONERx wrote:what were the reasons behind it and how is it affected now post-gamma flip?

As far as how it is affected...you mean my read on lillith I'm assuming.

I still think she is somewhat scummy, but she had a town glimmer I noted earlier and I'm obviously having a hard time figuring out who among the lurkers is town and who is scum when there are so many lurkers. Currently, I'd say lillith is probably in the null-scum range for me.

@reck I brought up in our pt that for your secret read it was one of us or starbuck before he even posted about it

@notty what made you make that assumption?

We were the only few I felt like you said very little on